Professur
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Anyone think that well see a Solara anytime soon in Winston Cup? (Oooo. Sorry. Nextel)
Toyota in Nascar
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It sounded like Toyota was going to take it slow by going to CTS then Busch then to Nextel but since they have had so much success in CTS I can see them speeding up thier entry into Nextel, however, I do not think the Solara will be the car...I forsee them coming in with a new model JMO
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esorlxaw
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they could always go the Ford route and use the Camry...
I'd say that within the next 5 years, Toyota will be in Cup racing.
Professur
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As long as that?
Toyota in Nascar!
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RobbyG Fan
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Why?Originally posted by Lap3Forever@Oct 27 2004, 11:41 AM
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Eagle1
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My bet would be in 2-3 years.
Why? [/b][/quote]Originally posted by RobbyG Fan+Oct 27 2004, 10:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RobbyG Fan @ Oct 27 2004, 10:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lap3Forever@Oct 27 2004, 11:41 AM
Just dont like rice burners.
even if VW, BMW, SABA, Jag, ect...i would not before it.
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esorlxaw
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Just dont like rice burners.Originally posted by Lap3Forever+Oct 27 2004, 11:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lap3Forever @ Oct 27 2004, 11:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>@Oct 27 2004, 11:41 AM
Why?
even if VW, BMW, SABA, Jag, ect...i would not before it. [/b][/quote]
because they're "rice burners" or because you don't like the design/engine/style?
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nascarup
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I say bring'em on! Let's see how many the Chevy's, Ford's, and Dodge's can put in the wall. :lol:
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redrock
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My guess two years tops...
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RobbyG Fan
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I dont see whats the big deal. Rice burners only equate to a percentage of the population who try to trick the cars out and make them sound like modified lawnmowers. If thats the case you can consider the Dodge Neon a "rice burner" too.
I dont see any problem with it, in fact, I believe Toyota and Honda's product is superior to most American makes.
I dont see any problem with it, in fact, I believe Toyota and Honda's product is superior to most American makes.
:lol: 
i drive a sunfire....
superior?
because they're "rice burners" or because you don't like the design/engine/style? [/b][/quote]Originally posted by esorlxaw+Oct 27 2004, 11:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (esorlxaw @ Oct 27 2004, 11:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>@Oct 27 2004, 11:41 AM
Why?
Just dont like rice burners.
even if VW, BMW, SABA, Jag, ect...i would not before it.
all of the above.
Professur
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Gawd, I hate tuners. Spending the price of a Corvette, to try and tune up a Civic to outperform a "vette", and you're still driving a civic *shudder*
Or worse, the posers. The ones with the stickers all over the car, and the tape-on trim kit. Big alloy rims that you can see the cheapo stock brakes through. And (classic) drilling a hole in the muffler to make it sound like you've a performance kit installed. Gawd, I just wanna run them over.
There's no replacement, for displacement.
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esorlxaw
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Here's some information all should read on Toyota and other "foreign" cars
Fords are built in Mexico and Canada-and Toyotas and Hondas are built in, respectively, Kentucky and Ohio. Besides, the assembly of a vehicle represents only 15 to 20 percent of a vehicle's cost, says Sean McAlinden, an economist with the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Foreign automakers don't necessarily bundle up all those profits and cart them back to Japan or Germany. "The U.S. market generates more profits for Toyota than any other," says Joe Tetherow, spokesman for Toyota. "But most of those profits are reinvested here. We're spending $800 million, for example, on a new truck plant in Texas."
In Mississippi, a Nissan is a domestic car. In Kentucky, it's a Toyota," says Hoffer. Contrary to what some Buy American advocates believe, the transplant automakers are subject to the same tax rates as U.S.-headquartered companies.
Foreign automakers are in the U.S. to stay. Besides, American giants Ford and General Motors play the same game elsewhere in the world. They've each owned overseas automakers for decades. And recently, during a spending spree the United Auto Workers dubbed the "America Last" strategy, they spent billions adding to their portfolios of overseas automakers rather than invest more to upgrade plants in this country.
WHEN GAIL DENER KICKED TIRES ON CAR DEALER lots recently, she had more on her mind than pretty paint jobs, comfy seats and affordable window-sticker prices. She was also concerned about who would ultimately profit from her substantial purchase. "I will not buy German-made cars," says the Baltimore resident. "My family suffered under the Germans in World War II. And they have not supported any peace effort in the Middle East during this conflict [in Iraq]." So what did she buy? A Chrysler PT Cruiser-"made in America," she adds.
Consider Gail Dener's new PT Cruiser. Here's a car that takes its styling cues from two of America's iconic vehicles-the hot rod and the station wagon. And it wears the Chrysler badge on its hood, a company founded in 1926 by American industrialist Walter P. Chrysler. Trouble is, the PT Cruiser is not built in the U.S. by wellpaid workers, but in Mexico by relatively low-wage local labor, and then imported into this country. And Chrysler, one of Detroit's so-called Big Three automakers, was bought out in 1998 by Stuttgart, Germany-based Daimler-Benz-makers of Mercedes-Benz
Add all that up and it could be argued that the PT Cruiser is more German, or Mexican, than American. Today, cars are becoming as international as the United Nations, and along the way, are losing their national identities.
you can find all of this at the following website:
click here for more fun
Fords are built in Mexico and Canada-and Toyotas and Hondas are built in, respectively, Kentucky and Ohio. Besides, the assembly of a vehicle represents only 15 to 20 percent of a vehicle's cost, says Sean McAlinden, an economist with the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Foreign automakers don't necessarily bundle up all those profits and cart them back to Japan or Germany. "The U.S. market generates more profits for Toyota than any other," says Joe Tetherow, spokesman for Toyota. "But most of those profits are reinvested here. We're spending $800 million, for example, on a new truck plant in Texas."
In Mississippi, a Nissan is a domestic car. In Kentucky, it's a Toyota," says Hoffer. Contrary to what some Buy American advocates believe, the transplant automakers are subject to the same tax rates as U.S.-headquartered companies.
Foreign automakers are in the U.S. to stay. Besides, American giants Ford and General Motors play the same game elsewhere in the world. They've each owned overseas automakers for decades. And recently, during a spending spree the United Auto Workers dubbed the "America Last" strategy, they spent billions adding to their portfolios of overseas automakers rather than invest more to upgrade plants in this country.
WHEN GAIL DENER KICKED TIRES ON CAR DEALER lots recently, she had more on her mind than pretty paint jobs, comfy seats and affordable window-sticker prices. She was also concerned about who would ultimately profit from her substantial purchase. "I will not buy German-made cars," says the Baltimore resident. "My family suffered under the Germans in World War II. And they have not supported any peace effort in the Middle East during this conflict [in Iraq]." So what did she buy? A Chrysler PT Cruiser-"made in America," she adds.
Consider Gail Dener's new PT Cruiser. Here's a car that takes its styling cues from two of America's iconic vehicles-the hot rod and the station wagon. And it wears the Chrysler badge on its hood, a company founded in 1926 by American industrialist Walter P. Chrysler. Trouble is, the PT Cruiser is not built in the U.S. by wellpaid workers, but in Mexico by relatively low-wage local labor, and then imported into this country. And Chrysler, one of Detroit's so-called Big Three automakers, was bought out in 1998 by Stuttgart, Germany-based Daimler-Benz-makers of Mercedes-Benz
Add all that up and it could be argued that the PT Cruiser is more German, or Mexican, than American. Today, cars are becoming as international as the United Nations, and along the way, are losing their national identities.
you can find all of this at the following website:
click here for more fun
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RobbyG Fan
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i drive a sunfire....
superior?
[/b][/quote]What are you trying to say?
Basically Im just basing my opinion off of my experiences with cars and my friends and families experiences with cars. Out of everyone that is into cars that I know, Toyota performs the best over the longest period of time.
Oh, and Professur, I feel you on that one. I hate those posers too. Before F&F came out, me and friends did the whole Hot Import Nights thing, as soon as that stupid movie came out it went from being a hobby for most of the originals to being a rice rocket poser fest.
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fan424
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Here kitty, kitty, kitty
My son has spent well over seven grand to trick out his Honda Accord and while none of the things he's put in there are sham and cheap, and he's won a contest in Raleigh, I too look at it as just another Honda. Now those cars are good and I won't say a bad word about them anymore. The Japanese car market is responsible all by itself for turning around the American car market forcing them to build better cars. I asked Adam why he did this to his car and told him that it would be much better if he got an old muscle car and tricked it up. He told me that for most of the cars that I could choose any of those old muscle cars I wanted and his car would whip it hands down. The boy knows what he's talking about and buys most of his stuff off ebay. This is his hobby and the wife and I don't understand how his wife puts up with it.
As for me, I'd much rather have an old American muscle car than a new Honda, Toyota etal family car. But then again, when I was a youngin', I wanted an XKE.
Hubby drove a Toyota Tacoma until his amputation, and I drive a Nissan. Daughter drives a Toyota and Son drives a Honda.
Most Japanese cars are now manufactured in the USA these days, so why not?
Many so called "domestic" cars and trucks are assembled in the USA but the parts come from China, Taiwan, Mexico, etc.
To each his or her own.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a Fix Or Repair Dailey from personal experience.
Most Japanese cars are now manufactured in the USA these days, so why not?
Many so called "domestic" cars and trucks are assembled in the USA but the parts come from China, Taiwan, Mexico, etc.
To each his or her own.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a Fix Or Repair Dailey from personal experience.
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esorlxaw
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I notice no one is commenting on what I posted about "domestic and foreign" cars
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esorlxaw
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I'm just bumping this to see if anyone would like to respond to my earlier post...
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TonyB
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Don't confuse them with the facts....
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DE_Wrangler_2
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I don't have a problem with Toyota or any other "foreign" make coming to NASCAR to race. Bring the Jags in, Mercedes, Beamers, Hondas........hell, even the Kias!! If they can compete then let them.........as long as they are somewhat stock looking. The more the merrier............I think that just might make the manufacturers race a little more meaningful. As that part stands now, its a total joke.
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Eagle1
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I agree DE_W