Toyota teams sandbagging?

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by lolla79, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:28 AM.

  1. lolla79

    lolla79 Spectator

  2. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan OWD

    I congratulate them on all the hard work and diligence !!! the other guys need to step up their game
     
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  3. joe h

    joe h Crew Chief

    Saw a guy driving around in a Nissan GT-R today and I thought to myself, nascar got their pockets lined by the wrong Japanese company. Imagine near showroom corvettes, gt500s, demons, and gtrs going at. Anyways, nascar has these cars on tight tolerances and can no longer do anything about advantages, since they technically do not exist anymore, unless the toyotas are actually cheating.
     
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  4. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Damned if you do and damned if you don't if you're a Toyota team. If you dominate, you're cheating, if you aren't dominating, you're sandbagging.

    I like Brad, but he does tend to have these bouts of mental diarrhea every now and then.
     
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  5. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    This is exactly why nascar sucks now, basically spec car that can't be tweaked much if any.
     
  6. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    I wish Brad would stop crying.
     
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  7. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan OWD



    Even the pole position didn't slow down the whine :rolleyes: I look forward to someone else winning the race Sunday .... I will watch just to see him lose
     
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  8. Simple Fan

    Simple Fan First or Last

    Thats a good problem to have though.
     
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  9. Revman

    Revman I am not surprised by anything.

    Is domination 3rd in the Manufacturers Standings?

    I really don't know what the hell Brad is looking for, and that's why I think he is just playing head games. The bodies are approved by all manufacturers--and can't be changed. You get as much horsepower out of the motor as the spec will allow. How many years has it been since somebody got some spoiler, etc.? If NASCAR truly wanted to catch somebody doing something, you would wind tunnel the things after Indy--an aero race everybody wants.

    I think that some might be butthurt that Toyota won the Manufacturers Championship last year with 5 cars, and has pulled to within 12 pts. with 4 cars and 2 rookies. Hell of a great job IMO.
     
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  10. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I've never understood how a team would benefit from sandbagging, which I understand to be deliberately running slower than the car is capable of during P&Q. The other teams are going to try to maximize their performance regardless of what they think you're capable of. What's the advantage?
     
  11. Taco

    Taco Crew Chief

    Brad sure does know how to fish, and always catches a lot.
     
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  12. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    I agree. Like him or think he's horse poop but he's a grade "A" troll-master that shakes things up for sure.
     
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  13. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

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  14. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    Perhaps second in line behind Happy Harvick?
     
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  15. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    I think 50-50. They're both vying for the title.
     
  16. Fordracing7

    Fordracing7 Team Owner

    So two cars have been able to pass any car at any time whenever they want for weeks dominating races. They all of sudden don't show up with as much speed at a track that speed is king. Coincidently at the track that nascar typically dynos and tests the cars after the race. Somebody states that it seems fishy and the ones being accused get really defensive everybody loses their mind. Think about it....
     
  17. SlicedBread22

    SlicedBread22 #TeamJL

    He should keep his mouth shut.. but he's Brad... What if he's right though? Lol
     
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  18. Taco

    Taco Crew Chief

    From your statement, I am assuming you have driver's rated on IQ, So who is the "sharpest knife" in the group?
     
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  19. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    :D:D:D
     
  20. Snappy D

    Snappy D Team Owner

    Brad Keselowski thinks they are sandbagging this weekend. A part of me wants to call him an idiot ( or moron like Kyle Busch called him) then another part is curious as to why he would think that and want to know more about it.
     
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  21. Taco

    Taco Crew Chief

    Reverse psychology is a technique involving the advocacy of a belief or behavior that is opposite to the one desired, with the expectation that this approach will encourage the subject of the persuasion to do what actually is desired: the opposite of what is suggested.
     
  22. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Brad can surrender his pole position to Kyle Busch or Truex if it makes him feel better.
     
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  23. Snappy D

    Snappy D Team Owner

    I'm not gonna lie at the risk of sound like an idiot on the internet, what you just said is a bit over my head.
     
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  24. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    Hmm, would that be Newman? Anyone else have an engineering degree or any college degree for that matter?
     
  25. rocket dawg

    rocket dawg Crew Chief

    But what if he's right? I'm not a Brad fan, but these toyoders are dominate, (just the 6 go jibbs cars, not the rest of the toyoders) They have something on the other teams and dont want to give it up, when all 6 of them have been finishing in the top 10 lately .....so "sandbagging?" it's very possible. Anyway congrats to Bubba on Saturdays win.
     
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  26. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Good stuff, see how they run
     
  27. Taco

    Taco Crew Chief

    IMO, Jibbs car got the advantage given to them by NASCAR, if they are within the rules NASCAR gave them.
     
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  28. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    Just makes me not wanna watch even more ;)
     
  29. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    So...NASCAR is cheating? o_O
     
  30. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Everything's Great!

    Brad could just be mad because the Penske boys haven't been running as good since the cucumber. I don't think NASCAR gave anything to Toyota, but they very well may have taken something from Ford.
     
  31. Looks/sounds to me like Keselowski having his yearly. Nothing more.
     
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  32. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Nascar is in charge of balancing the performance, has been from day one.
     
  33. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    So if it's balanced then how does a specific team have an advantage?
     
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  34. Impact wrenches ;)
     
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  35. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    Pretty sure everyone is using the same Ingersoll impact wrenches.
     
  36. Taco

    Taco Crew Chief

    Did Steve O'Donnell come home from japan with a extra suit case, when he visited toyota this year? If you can answer that, it would be appreciated.
     
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  37. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    So was there a Japanese midget engineer in the suitcase?
     
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  38. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

  39. Thegeneral23

    Thegeneral23 Crew Chief

    How ?? I hear people say that all the time. What exactly happened?
     
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