Huge train wreck here by my house. Freighter head-on with Metrolink passenger train. Many dead. 22 squad cars just passed by the front of my house. Helicopters everywhere...
Train Wreck!
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kelloggs5TLfan
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That's sad.
It's the same train line that we take to the racetrack. It's crazy on my street; rescue personnel everywhere. It appears that the freighter engine tore halfway into the first passenger car. Both are on their side.
http://www.knbc.com/news/17462062/detail.html?dl=mainclick
http://www.knbc.com/news/17462062/detail.html?dl=mainclick
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Digger
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15 dead.
24 dead, so far. Engineer of commuter train ran a red light. LAPD officer among the dead...
http://cbs2.com/local/Metrolink.Crash.Chatsworth.2.816721.html
http://cbs2.com/local/Metrolink.Crash.Chatsworth.2.816721.html
wilson89
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The sad part was last night when i first heard about it and the news crews actually showed a crane lifting a body out of the train, immediatly the reporter yelled pull away.
The hack lawyers are at it and drooling. I realize the need for the victims and their families to be compensated but, geez they're actually taking out full-page ads in the local papers...
Law Firms Seek Metrolink Crash Clients
POSTED: 6:00 pm PDT September 22, 2008
UPDATED: 6:24 pm PDT September 22, 2008
LOS ANGELES -- With the potential for massive lawsuits stemming from the Metrolink train disaster, Southern California law firms are running ad campaigns seeking clients.
It's been 10 days since the deadly train wreck in Chatsworth, and already law firms are in competition to sign clients for what could be the largest payout in the history of rail litigation in California, KNBC's Conan Nolan reported.
Advertising has been seen in the LA Daily News and online through Google Sponsored Links.
Twenty-five people were killed in the collision. The collision between a Metrolink commuter train and a Union Pacific freight train was the nation's deadliest train accident since 1993, when Amtrak's Sunset Limited jumped the rails on a weakened bridge and plunged into a bayou near Mobile, Ala., killing 47 people.
Last Monday, one law firm held a news conference with the family of a deceased victim.
"There's going to be plenty of blame to go around," said Paul Kiesel, of Kiesel, Boucher & Larson LLP.
In a post from Sept. 15 on the firm's Web site, Kiesel said, "(He) extends his firm's sympathies and commits its resources to help those who have lost loved ones or who have been injured in this collision. At the same time, Mr. Kiesel expresses outrage that Metrolink allowed this preventable tragedy to happen."
While some attorney's thought last week's news conference was in poor form, others said it's all part of the process seeking justice for those who have been harmed, Nolan reported.
"The permanent disabilities, and some of the these people were young people who had their whole lifetime of lost earnings. Each one of those cases could be $5 million to $10 million," said Randy McMurray of the Cochran Firm.
With liability already settled, there's a greater likelihood that the civil action against Metrolink will be faster than the suits against the rail agency following the 2005 derailment in Glendale, Nolan reported.
In 1997, Congress placed a $200-million cap on rail accidents.
"Caps on damages restrict our right to jury trial. We have a fundamental, constitutional right to a trial by jury. Anything that restricts that right, it should be unconstitutional. It's certainly unfair," McMurray said.
To exceed the cap, attorneys in the cases would need to win a judgment against Metrolink, and then challenge the cap once it's imposed, possibly all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, Nolan reported.
Law Firms Seek Metrolink Crash Clients
POSTED: 6:00 pm PDT September 22, 2008
UPDATED: 6:24 pm PDT September 22, 2008
LOS ANGELES -- With the potential for massive lawsuits stemming from the Metrolink train disaster, Southern California law firms are running ad campaigns seeking clients.
It's been 10 days since the deadly train wreck in Chatsworth, and already law firms are in competition to sign clients for what could be the largest payout in the history of rail litigation in California, KNBC's Conan Nolan reported.
Advertising has been seen in the LA Daily News and online through Google Sponsored Links.
Twenty-five people were killed in the collision. The collision between a Metrolink commuter train and a Union Pacific freight train was the nation's deadliest train accident since 1993, when Amtrak's Sunset Limited jumped the rails on a weakened bridge and plunged into a bayou near Mobile, Ala., killing 47 people.
Last Monday, one law firm held a news conference with the family of a deceased victim.
"There's going to be plenty of blame to go around," said Paul Kiesel, of Kiesel, Boucher & Larson LLP.
In a post from Sept. 15 on the firm's Web site, Kiesel said, "(He) extends his firm's sympathies and commits its resources to help those who have lost loved ones or who have been injured in this collision. At the same time, Mr. Kiesel expresses outrage that Metrolink allowed this preventable tragedy to happen."
While some attorney's thought last week's news conference was in poor form, others said it's all part of the process seeking justice for those who have been harmed, Nolan reported.
"The permanent disabilities, and some of the these people were young people who had their whole lifetime of lost earnings. Each one of those cases could be $5 million to $10 million," said Randy McMurray of the Cochran Firm.
With liability already settled, there's a greater likelihood that the civil action against Metrolink will be faster than the suits against the rail agency following the 2005 derailment in Glendale, Nolan reported.
In 1997, Congress placed a $200-million cap on rail accidents.
"Caps on damages restrict our right to jury trial. We have a fundamental, constitutional right to a trial by jury. Anything that restricts that right, it should be unconstitutional. It's certainly unfair," McMurray said.
To exceed the cap, attorneys in the cases would need to win a judgment against Metrolink, and then challenge the cap once it's imposed, possibly all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, Nolan reported.
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Vultures
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Vultures
That is an insult to Vultures.
I understand the desire of the attorney's to get more than their fair share of the windfall this will create. It is in their nature to capitalize on the pain and suffering of others. At least this time, they did not create the pain and suffering. They will however, dredge it up for their own personal gain every chance they get.
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See, I'm not so sure that in every case there should be compensation. Life is not guaranteed. If you want to provide for others in the case of your demise shouldn't you have bought insurance and not rely on other means?
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What if you are injured, or worse, thru no fault of your own as these people were by what appears to have been the engineers negligence. They or their families shouldn't have legal recourse?
Let's suppose a guy 46 years old with a family and home. Making a darn good living. a surgeon does a oopsie and the guy becomes permanantly disabled. Now he collects SS, roughly a sixth of his previous earnings. He's supposed to accept that?
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See that's where I covered myself and said most. But, most on here long for olden days and I can assure you that in your grandfather's time if this happened there would be less litigation. Nowadays if we slip in baby pee at our local WalMart we want the cash register to go chaching and make us rich because WalMart doesn't have a mop boy to follow every crumbcruncher through the store just in case. That has caused havoc in both our medical and legal fields.
In other nations around the world if this were to happen you don't get a dime. Are they wrong? Life is not guaranteed to be easy or fair. And in many cases its not even guaranteed. Whatever happened to you pays your money and you takes your chance?
Admittedly some businesses don't want to step up to the plate and accept responsibility either. But much of this can be laid at the feet of ambulance chasing lawyer types (like the good Whizzer's John Johnny-Jump-Up Edwards). For to apologize and offer to do the right thing would be seen as an admission of guilt and there goes that chaching again.
So while maybe they should make an offer of settlement it wouldn't be seen as enough. Besides what do you do with the people who come forward pretending to have been on the train. And you know they're out there just waiting for some slick sleaze lawyer to make them rich.
In other nations around the world if this were to happen you don't get a dime. Are they wrong? Life is not guaranteed to be easy or fair. And in many cases its not even guaranteed. Whatever happened to you pays your money and you takes your chance?
Admittedly some businesses don't want to step up to the plate and accept responsibility either. But much of this can be laid at the feet of ambulance chasing lawyer types (like the good Whizzer's John Johnny-Jump-Up Edwards). For to apologize and offer to do the right thing would be seen as an admission of guilt and there goes that chaching again.
So while maybe they should make an offer of settlement it wouldn't be seen as enough. Besides what do you do with the people who come forward pretending to have been on the train. And you know they're out there just waiting for some slick sleaze lawyer to make them rich.
It seems that the Metrolink engineer that ran the red light causing the train wrecak last month WAS TEXTING ON HIS PHONE!
From KNBC
Metrolink Engineer Sent Text 22 Seconds Before Collision
POSTED: 12:47 pm PDT October 1, 2008
CHATSWORTH, Calif. -- Federal investigators say the engineer of a Metrolink commuter train sent a text message 22 seconds before the collision with a freight train in Los Angeles last month that killed 25 people and injured dozens of others.
The National Transportation Safety Board issued a statement Wednesday with detailed cell phone information indicating that the Metrolink engineer sent and received multiple emails in the moments leading up to the accident.
The information regarding the Metrolink engineer's cell phone activity came from his service provider. Preliminary information shows:
"On the day of the accident, the Metrolink engineer (Robert Sanchez) was on duty for two periods of time. The engineer was responsible for the operation of a train from 6:44 am until 8:53 am. During this period of time, the engineer's cell phone received 21 text messages and sent 24 text messages," according to an NTSB news release.
"(Sanchez) was then off duty until 2:00 pm. The engineer was responsible for the operation of Metrolink train 111 from 3:03 pm until the time of the accident. During this time period, the engineer's cell phone received 7 text messages and sent 5 text messages," the release stated.
According to the time on the cell phone provider's records and the time on a freight train recorder:
4:21:03 PM: Last text message received by the engineer's phone before the accident
4:22:01 PM: Last text message sent from the engineer's cell phone
4:22:23 PM: Time of the accident, according to the Union Pacific train's onboard recorders
From KNBC
Metrolink Engineer Sent Text 22 Seconds Before Collision
POSTED: 12:47 pm PDT October 1, 2008
CHATSWORTH, Calif. -- Federal investigators say the engineer of a Metrolink commuter train sent a text message 22 seconds before the collision with a freight train in Los Angeles last month that killed 25 people and injured dozens of others.
The National Transportation Safety Board issued a statement Wednesday with detailed cell phone information indicating that the Metrolink engineer sent and received multiple emails in the moments leading up to the accident.
The information regarding the Metrolink engineer's cell phone activity came from his service provider. Preliminary information shows:
"On the day of the accident, the Metrolink engineer (Robert Sanchez) was on duty for two periods of time. The engineer was responsible for the operation of a train from 6:44 am until 8:53 am. During this period of time, the engineer's cell phone received 21 text messages and sent 24 text messages," according to an NTSB news release.
"(Sanchez) was then off duty until 2:00 pm. The engineer was responsible for the operation of Metrolink train 111 from 3:03 pm until the time of the accident. During this time period, the engineer's cell phone received 7 text messages and sent 5 text messages," the release stated.
According to the time on the cell phone provider's records and the time on a freight train recorder:
4:21:03 PM: Last text message received by the engineer's phone before the accident
4:22:01 PM: Last text message sent from the engineer's cell phone
4:22:23 PM: Time of the accident, according to the Union Pacific train's onboard recorders