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2010 Unofficial Driver Standings: Price Chopper 400 presented by Kraft Foods
Price Chopper 400 presented by Kraft Foods | Kansas Speedway | Race 29 of 36

RANK +/- DRIVER POINTS BEHIND STARTS POLES WINS TOP 5 TOP 10
1 +1 Jimmie Johnson 5503 Leader 29 2 6 12 16
2 -1 Denny Hamlin 5495 -8 29 1 6 11 13
3 +2 Kevin Harvick 5473 -30 29 0 3 13 19
4 +2 Carl Edwards 5450 -53 29 2 0 7 16
5 +3 Jeff Gordon 5445 -58 29 0 0 11 15
6 -2 Kurt Busch 5433 -70 29 2 2 9 16
7 -4 Kyle Busch 5423 -80 29 2 3 8 16
8 +1 Greg Biffle 5418 -85 29 0 2 6 15
9 -2 Jeff Burton 5402 -101 29 0 0 6 14
10 -- Tony Stewart 5376 -127 29 2 1 8 15
11 -- Matt Kenseth 5354 -149 29 0 0 5 11
12 -- Clint Bowyer 5251 -252 29 0 1 5 15

13 -- Ryan Newman 3501 -2002 29 1 1 2 11
14 -- Jamie McMurray 3479 -2024 29 3 2 8 10
15 +1 Mark Martin 3346 -2157 29 1 0 5 7
16 -1 Juan Montoya 3329 -2174 29 2 1 5 13
17 +1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 3259 -2244 29 1 0 3 7
18 -1 David Reutimann 3248 -2255 29 0 1 5 6
19 +2 A.J. Allmendinger 3220 -2283 29 1 0 1 7
20 -- Joey Logano 3218 -2285 29 1 0 4 11
21 -2 Kasey Kahne 3189 -2314 29 3 0 6 8
22 -- Martin Truex Jr. 3156 -2347 29 1 0 1 6
23 -- Paul Menard 3014 -2489 29 0 0 1 5
24 +1 David Ragan 2853 -2650 29 0 0 0 1
25 +1 Brad Keselowski 2820 -2683 29 1 0 0 0
26 -2 Marcos Ambrose 2802 -2701 29 0 0 2 5
27 +2 Scott Speed 2577 -2926 29 0 0 0 2
28 -1 Sam Hornish Jr. 2575 -2928 29 0 0 0 1
29 -1 Elliott Sadler 2568 -2935 29 0 0 0 1
30 -- Regan Smith 2473 -3030 29 0 0 0 0
31 -- Bobby Labonte 2076 -3427 29 0 0 0 0
32 -- Travis Kvapil 2052 -3451 28 0 0 0 0
33 -- David Gilliland 1919 -3584 25 0 0 0 0
34 -- Kevin Conway* 1687 -3816 26 0 0 0 0
35 -- Robby Gordon 1626 -3877 22 0 0 1 1
36 +2 Reed Sorenson 1159 -4344 14 0 0 0 1
37 -1 Brian Vickers 1158 -4345 11 0 0 0 3
38 -1 Joe Nemechek 1108 -4395 26 0 0 0 0
39 -- Casey Mears 1101 -4402 15 0 0 0 0
40 -- Dave Blaney 1037 -4466 22 0 0 0 0
41 -- Mike Bliss 919 -4584 14 0 0 0 2
42 -- Max Papis 907 -4596 18 0 0 0 0
43 +1 Bill Elliott 888 -4615 10 0 0 0 0
44 -1 David Stremme 825 -4678 11 0 0 0 0
45 -- Michael McDowell 774 -4729 21 0 0 0 0
46 -- J.J. Yeley 662 -4841 12 0 0 0 0
47 +1 Landon Cassill 471 -5032 10 0 0 0 0
48 -1 Boris Said 448 -5055 6 0 0 0 1
49 -- Tony Raines 412 -5091 7 0 0 0 0
50 +1 Patrick Carpentier 342 -5161 4 0 0 0 0
51 -1 Todd Bodine 313 -5190 7 0 0 0 0
52 -- Robert Richardson Jr. 249 -5254 3 0 0 0 0
53 -- Andy Lally 213 -5290 3 0 0 0 0
54 -- Michael Waltrip 200 -5303 3 0 0 0 0
55 -- P.J. Jones 190 -5313 4 0 0 0 0
56 -- Mattias Ekstrom 175 -5328 2 0 0 0 0
57 -- Terry Cook* 164 -5339 3 0 0 0 0
58 -- Aric Almirola 154 -5349 4 0 0 0 0
59 -- Johnny Sauter 154 -5349 4 0 0 0 0
60 -- Jeff Green 146 -5357 2 0 0 0 0
61 -- Steve Park 129 -5374 1 0 0 0 0
62 -- Jan Magnussen 127 -5376 1 0 0 0 0
63 -- Scott Riggs 116 -5387 2 0 0 0 0
64 -- Jacques Villeneuve 76 -5427 1 0 0 0 0
65 -- John Andretti 49 -5454 1 0 0 0 0
66 +1 Terry Labonte 43 -5460 1 0 0 0 0
67 -1 Ron Fellows 43 -5460 1 0 0 0 0
68 -- Geoffrey Bodine 40 -5463 1 0 0 0 0
69 -- Chad McCumbee 37 -5466 1 0 0 0 0
70 -- Jason Leffler 34 -5469 1 0 0 0 0
71 -- Brandon Ash 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
72 +1 Brian Simo 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
73 +1 Josh Wise 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
74 -2 Ted Musgrave 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
75 -- Tony Ave 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
76 -- Kevin Lepage 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
77 +1 Derrike Cope 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
78 -1 Brian Keselowski 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
79 -- Mike Wallace 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
80 -- Norm Benning 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0
81 -- Jeff Fuller 0 -5503 0 0 0 0 0

* Denotes Rookie
 
Smoke14 said:
Bullchit! He isn't going to win it this year.
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Well, After NH, Jimmy was 92 behind Hamlin, and 47 behind Harvick.
A couple races later, they're all chasing him. And his best tracks are yet to come...... Say goodnight Irene......
MoMike
The only comfort I find in the whole deal, is that, on queue, Kyle appears to be self destructing.....again....
 
SpeedPagan said:
I dunno, he was able to get 1st in points in only three races, and his best tracks are coming up.
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Considering that he was only 10 points behind when the Chase started, I wouldn't think that is a huge accomplishment. He's basically only gained 18 points since the beginning of the Chase as he's only 8 points ahead of Hamlin.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Considering that he was only 10 points behind when the Chase started, I wouldn't think that is a huge accomplishment. He's basically only gained 18 points since the beginning of the Chase as he's only 8 points ahead of Hamlin.
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Lets look at it this way, Hamlin finished, 2nd, 9th, and 12th, and he still lost the points lead to Johnson.
If Johnson had not hiccupped at NH with that 25th place finsh, he'd probably be 70-90 points ahead of the field by now.
I hate him, but Jimmy ain't gonna hiccup anymore......it's over.
MoMike
 
Bank of America 500 | Charlotte Motor Speedway | Race 31 of 36

RANK +/- DRIVER POINTS BEHIND STARTS POLES WINS TOP 5 TOP 10
1 -- Jimmie Johnson 5843 Leader 31 2 6 14 18
2 -- Denny Hamlin 5802 -41 31 1 6 12 15
3 -- Kevin Harvick 5766 -77 31 0 3 13 21
4 -- Jeff Gordon 5687 -156 31 1 0 11 16
5 +4 Kyle Busch 5666 -177 31 2 3 9 17
6 -1 Tony Stewart 5666 -177 31 2 2 9 16
7 -- Carl Edwards 5643 -200 31 2 0 7 16
8 +2 Greg Biffle 5618 -225 31 0 2 7 16
9 -3 Kurt Busch 5606 -237 31 2 2 9 16
10 -2 Jeff Burton 5604 -239 31 0 0 6 14
11 -- Matt Kenseth 5587 -256 31 0 0 5 12
12 -- Clint Bowyer 5543 -300 31 0 1 6 16

13 +1 Jamie McMurray 3786 -2057 31 4 3 9 11
14 -1 Ryan Newman 3711 -2132 31 1 1 3 12
15 -- Mark Martin 3632 -2211 31 1 0 5 8
16 -- Juan Montoya 3590 -2253 31 2 1 5 13
17 -- David Reutimann 3520 -2323 31 0 1 5 8
18 +2 Joey Logano 3499 -2344 31 1 0 4 12
19 -1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 3455 -2388 31 1 0 3 7
20 +1 A.J. Allmendinger 3419 -2424 31 1 0 1 7
21 -2 Kasey Kahne 3398 -2445 31 3 0 7 9
22 -- Martin Truex Jr. 3383 -2460 31 1 0 1 6
23 -- Paul Menard 3207 -2636 31 0 0 1 5
24 -- David Ragan 3054 -2789 31 0 0 0 2
25 -- Brad Keselowski 2987 -2856 31 1 0 0 0
26 -- Marcos Ambrose 2981 -2862 31 0 0 2 5
27 +1 Elliott Sadler 2777 -3066 31 0 0 0 1
28 +1 Scott Speed 2774 -3069 31 0 0 0 2
29 -2 Sam Hornish Jr. 2736 -3107 31 0 0 0 1
30 -- Regan Smith 2729 -3114 31 0 0 0 0
31 +1 Bobby Labonte 2222 -3621 31 0 0 0 0
32 -1 Travis Kvapil 2206 -3637 30 0 0 0 0
33 -- David Gilliland 2111 -3732 27 0 0 0 0
34 -- Kevin Conway* 1757 -4086 27 0 0 0 0
35 -- Robby Gordon 1690 -4153 23 0 0 1 1
36 -- Reed Sorenson 1355 -4488 16 0 0 0 1
37 -- Casey Mears 1189 -4654 16 0 0 0 0
38 +2 Dave Blaney 1180 -4663 24 0 0 0 0
39 -1 Joe Nemechek 1160 -4683 27 0 0 0 0
40 -1 Brian Vickers 1158 -4685 11 0 0 0 3
41 +2 Bill Elliott 946 -4897 11 0 0 0 0
42 -1 Mike Bliss 919 -4924 14 0 0 0 2
43 -1 Max Papis 907 -4936 18 0 0 0 0
44 +1 Michael McDowell 871 -4972 23 0 0 0 0
45 -1 David Stremme 825 -5018 11 0 0 0 0
46 -- J.J. Yeley 733 -5110 14 0 0 0 0
47 -- Landon Cassill 551 -5292 12 0 0 0 0
48 -- Boris Said 448 -5395 6 0 0 0 1
49 -- Tony Raines 412 -5431 7 0 0 0 0
50 -- Patrick Carpentier 399 -5444 5 0 0 0 0
51 +1 Andy Lally 329 -5514 5 0 0 0 0
52 -1 Todd Bodine 313 -5530 7 0 0 0 0
53 -- Robert Richardson Jr. 249 -5594 3 0 0 0 0
54 -- Michael Waltrip 200 -5643 3 0 0 0 0
55 -- P.J. Jones 190 -5653 4 0 0 0 0
56 +4 Jeff Green 186 -5657 3 0 0 0 0
57 -1 Mattias Ekstrom 175 -5668 2 0 0 0 0
58 -1 Terry Cook* 164 -5679 3 0 0 0 0
59 -1 Aric Almirola 154 -5689 4 0 0 0 0
60 -1 Johnny Sauter 154 -5689 4 0 0 0 0
61 -- Steve Park 129 -5714 1 0 0 0 0
62 -- Jan Magnussen 127 -5716 1 0 0 0 0
63 -- Scott Riggs 116 -5727 2 0 0 0 0
64 -- Jacques Villeneuve 76 -5767 1 0 0 0 0
65 -- Jason Leffler 68 -5775 2 0 0 0 0
66 -- John Andretti 49 -5794 1 0 0 0 0
67 -- Ron Fellows 43 -5800 1 0 0 0 0
68 -- Terry Labonte 43 -5800 1 0 0 0 0
69 -- Geoffrey Bodine 40 -5803 1 0 0 0 0
70 -- Chad McCumbee 37 -5806 1 0 0 0 0
71 -- Brandon Ash 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
72 -- Ted Musgrave 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
73 -- Brian Simo 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
74 -- Josh Wise 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
75 -- Tony Ave 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
76 -- Kevin Lepage 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
77 +1 Derrike Cope 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
78 -1 Brian Keselowski 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
79 -- Mike Wallace 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
80 -- Norm Benning 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0
81 -- Jeff Fuller 0 -5843 0 0 0 0 0

* Denotes Rookie
 
The pattern is becoming clear and the result is inevitable. A different winner every week. Jimmy gets his car best near the end and challanges for the lead. Finishes top five. The inconsistancy of the rest of the chasers causes the gap to widen.
 
how did Derrick Cope move up a spot in points?
 
MoMike said:
Well, After NH, Jimmy was 92 behind Hamlin, and 47 behind Harvick.
A couple races later, they're all chasing him. And his best tracks are yet to come...... Say goodnight Irene......
MoMike
The only comfort I find in the whole deal, is that, on queue, Kyle appears to be self destructing.....again....
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How is that? Explain how running strong all night last night is self destructing?
 
Originally Posted by MoMike
Well, After NH, Jimmy was 92 behind Hamlin, and 47 behind Harvick.
A couple races later, they're all chasing him. And his best tracks are yet to come...... Say goodnight Irene......
MoMike
The only comfort I find in the whole deal, is that, on queue, Kyle appears to be self destructing.....again....
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Mopardh9 said:
How is that? Explain how running strong all night last night is self destructing?
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I know pretty funny!! Kyle finishing 2nd, moved up 4 positions in the points = self destruction:rolleyes:

Brad who?????
 
I hate to say it, but I think the Chase is as good as over. In my opinion the only drivers within striking distance of JJ is the 11 and the 29. I truly don't think either of them have what it takes to unseat Jimmie. The 29 is consistent enough, but is not putting the wins together. I think the 11 will do well at Martinsville, then he will head south.

P.S. I will be at Martinsville and I REALLY hope the 11 doesn't win!
 
Yep I'd take a bet that it'll be 5 in a row.
I just don't understand why no one else can step up and do what he does every year in the chase.
 
ThrashN said:
Yep I'd take a bet that it'll be 5 in a row.
I just don't understand why no one else can step up and do what he does every year in the chase.
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They can't be consistent. I mean look at Harvick, he was consistent in the regular season, but so far in the Chase he just hasn't been able to pull it together.
 
ThrashN said:
Yep I'd take a bet that it'll be 5 in a row.
I just don't understand why no one else can step up and do what he does every year in the chase.
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Two words, Chad Knaus. I think Chad pretty much looks at everyone else and says, "anything you can do, I can do better." Thing is, I think he is right.
 
Gordon_Fan24 said:
Two words, Chad Knaus. I think Chad pretty much looks at everyone else and says, "anything you can do, I can do better." Thing is, I think he is right.
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It's the chemistry that Chad and Johnson have, I think that's what doing it and as long as Johnson keeps winning Championship, I don't see Knaus leaving him, unless another team offer him a bigger paycheck than what's Hendrick is paying him. Then again, can any other team afford to outpay Hendrick?
 
Stewart Fan said:
Only way Chad and Jimmy ever break up is if Hendrick decides to send him to JR.
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Which will only happen if they stop performing the way that they are right now. Hendrick isn't giving up Earnhardt Jr. because he brings in merchandising money, and Johnson is staying because he's the top dog in Hedrick's garage.
 
Johnson may very well win his 5th and the next 5 after that if someone doesn`t step up and do something about it.

It`s not like they`re hiding some secret formula or have some higher power on their side...how they do it is on display every week for anyone to see.

I also think that while Johnson may not be the most talented driver on the track, he certainly has become the smartest.
 
#17D500winner said:
Johnson may very well win his 5th and the next 5 after that if someone doesn`t step up and do something about it.

It`s not like they`re hiding some secret formula or have some higher power on their side...how they do it is on display every week for anyone to see.

I also think that while Johnson may not be the most talented driver on the track, he certainly has become the smartest.
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Well he puts his nose to the grindstone. While all the other drivers are carrying on with feuds and drama queen crap, Johnson and Knaus rise above it and keep out of it. They don't ***** over the radio every time something goes wrong and while other drivers may carry out the drama show in the garage, Johnson and Knaus just stay out of it and keep working on the car for the next race.

Maybe once the other drivers stop and realize that this isn't the WWF, they'll start doing the same.
 
Gordon_Fan24 said:
I hate to say it, but I think the Chase is as good as over. In my opinion the only drivers within striking distance of JJ is the 11 and the 29....
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i'd agree except for one word, talladega. nobody knows how or if the points will change that much after that crapshoot.
 
I have a feeling there is going to be a huge wreck that changes the entire chase scenario this year.
 
SlowNeasy said:
i'd agree except for one word, talladega. nobody knows how or if the points will change that much after that crapshoot.
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I agree, talladega is the big unknown, however, the 48 team seems to always find a way to survive it.
 
SlowNeasy said:
i'd agree except for one word, talladega. nobody knows how or if the points will change that much after that crapshoot.
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The reality of it all is that Johnson is the one team that could probably wreck out of Talledega, win the following 3 of 4 races and get #5 anyways.
Only because no other team can piece together 4 top 3 finishes to keep him down.
The 48 team is phenomenal.
 
How hard is it to figure out that if you get someone at the bottom o the chase to put him in the wall everyweek he can't win.
 
Last I looked there were five races left this season. Regardless of the popular opinion on this board, 41 points is not an insurmountable lead. That can be gone in a heartbeat. Don't engrave that name quite yet.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Last I looked there were five races left this season. Regardless of the popular opinion on this board, 41 points is not an insurmountable lead. That can be gone in a heartbeat. Don't engrave that name quite yet.
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If we were talking about Johnson trailing by 41, i'd agree with you, or if it were Tony, i'd agree, but Hamlin isn't going to do it. If Denny wins martinsville, Johnson will be 2nd.
At this point in the chase, you're battling all 4 teams at HMS, working as one. It's a mega-team.
MoMike
 
MoMike said:
If we were talking about Johnson trailing by 41, i'd agree with you, or if it were Tony, i'd agree, but Hamlin isn't going to do it. If Denny wins martinsville, Johnson will be 2nd.
At this point in the chase, you're battling all 4 teams at HMS, working as one. It's a mega-team.
MoMike
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Sounds like he's got in your head too! :sarcasm:

Nobody is immune to issues, not even Jimmie Johnson. It's not like he's a robot or something. I think that was Kenseth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI336kP_eQ
 
Year after year he just outperforms the rest. You can't rely on people having bad days to win a chase. If you race around looking for top 10's and bad luck for others, you're not going to win.
Right now, bad luck is the only thing thats going to stop him. Whens the last time Jimmy had bad luck, 2 races in a row? I say 2 because 1 more bad race isn't going to eliminate him.
MoMike
 
MoMike said:
Right now, bad luck is the only thing thats going to stop him. Whens the last time Jimmy had bad luck, 2 races in a row? I say 2 because 1 more bad race isn't going to eliminate him.
MoMike
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How about seven in a row? Again, Jimmie is not indestructible.

7/3/2010 - Daytona - Started 2nd - Finished 31st
7/10/2010 - Chicago - Started 2nd - Finished 25th
7/25/2010 - Indy - Started 2nd - Finished 22nd
8/1/2010 - Pocono - Started 6th - Finished 10th
8/8/2010 - Watkins Glen - Started 9th - Finished 28th
8/15/2010 - Michigan - Stated 2nd - Finished 12th
8/21/2010 - Bristol - Started 1st - Finished 35th

OK, OK..... So your saying that 10th and 12th place finish wasn't so bad. No, not to bad but those are the type of finishes that could lose the Chase. Of course the easy bet is to say Jimmie will win the Chase. That's were I'd place my bet to. But..... it isn't over until it's over.

1st and 8th. You ask..... What the heck does that mean. That's the difference between Jimmie Johnson maintaining or losing his lead. A Denny win and a Jimmie 8th is enough to have a new leader. That's not a lot of positions.
 
1st and 8th? Thats enough for Denny to take over for 1 race. Not near enough to seal the deal for the next 5 races. What i'm saying is that no one in the 12 car field has the position in the points, with the consistency, to topple him.

I gotta stop this. I'm starting to sound like a Johnson fan......
 
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