Waste of a good Sunday.

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In my opinion, what a terrible race. A 20th place car wins. It's getting to the point where I don't even enjoy a Michigan race. Junk tires, boneheads in the grandstands that can't maintain their hot dog wrappers, what a wasteof a good Sunday. At least there was an open-wheel race on at the same time for minimal entertainment. (And I can't stand open-wheel).
 
I don't think it was a real bad race but it was a strange race. If the track cannot control the problem with wrappers more than shown today the race should be taken away from the trtack....now we know that isn't going to happen. :)

Rusty continues to "race for the chase" and races smart. J. Gordon was pretty lucky today to come home with a 15th place finish. On the other hand he has had enough "bad luck" this year so I guess he is due some good.
 
First of all that track needs to do something about their trash problem. Those rednecks need to get off their butt and though out there hot dog rappers.

Secondly, that was the most screwed up race Ive seen in a good long time. How does Jr. finish 18th after running in the top ten all day? Unbelievable...

Im happy for Jermey but win a race the right way!
 
^ he didn't run in the top 10 all day, he ran 14 all day long, but got a break midway and ran in the top ten for a good 50-75 lots or so.

anyway i'm happy for jeff gordon, his day couldn't get worse, aleast he got a break and finish 15 and its now 12 in points :)
 
Jeff said:
First of all that track needs to do something about their trash problem. Those rednecks need to get off their butt and though out there hot dog rappers.
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First of all, having attended a number of races at Michigan, I know from looking at the license plates on the cars that most of the spectators come from Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Pennsyvania, and Canada. Now, how can these be "rednecks?" Unless, you're implying that because they are at a race, that makes them "redneck."

The trash problem is at every track. It was more noticeable and more of a problem because the wind was gusting so hard, and so unpredictably. Jeff Gordon even commented during the race that the car was hard to drive because the wind was gusting and coming from different directions.

Secondly, that was the most screwed up race Ive seen in a good long time. How does Jr. finish 18th after running in the top ten all day? Unbelievable...
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Stuff happens. He had to come in for gas, so did a lot of others. Some could make it. Almost every Michigan race I ever attended was won on pit strategy or fuel mileage, or a combination.

Im happy for Jermey but win a race the right way!
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You take a win however you can get it. Slugger even said "they robbed the bank with this one."
 
BobbyFord said:
In my opinion, what a terrible race. A 20th place car wins. It's getting to the point where I don't even enjoy a Michigan race. Junk tires, boneheads in the grandstands that can't maintain their hot dog wrappers, what a wasteof a good Sunday. At least there was an open-wheel race on at the same time for minimal entertainment. (And I can't stand open-wheel).
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The first place car won the race. Just because other drivers were not smart enought to top off or take an extra second to be sure they got all the gas in at the last pitstop doesn't mean Mayfield did not deserve to win....Or should we give the race to Kurt, since he led the most laps?
 
A race is a race is a race. Some people are happy, some are not. Depends how their favorite finishes, I guess.

I have an idea. Why does NASCAR not wave some kind of a flag with 10 laps to go and after that only the top 10 at that time are eligible to win? Get everyone in the mood for the chase. :)
 
bumpzter said:
A race is a race is a race. Some people are happy, some are not. Depends how their favorite finishes, I guess.

I have an idea. Why does NASCAR not wave some kind of a flag with 10 laps to go and after that only the top 10 at that time are eligible to win? Get everyone in the mood for the chase. :)
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:p
 
I enjoyed the race myself and thought it was pretty cool watching cars run out of gas or having to pit with less then 15 laps. Hell even my driver kasey ran out with what 3 laps and I thought he had enough gas. Not sure what happened he was working hes way forward the front near and just dropped off after almost loosing it at one point. Then the gas issue at the end.


I agree with Bucky Badger here:
The first place car won the race. Just because other drivers were not smart enought to top off or take an extra second to be sure they got all the gas in at the last pitstop doesn't mean Mayfield did not deserve to win....Or should we give the race to Kurt, since he led the most laps?
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I think all the other cars were gambling on a caution later on in the race which didnt happen.
 
How funny would it have been if Tony Raines pulled off the win!!!
 
I was just about to edit my thread saying I would of enjoyed seeing him Win Sunday. :)
 
It certainly had drama right to the end. But it was a screwed up race with all of the trash. Was it here or Cali last year that had the exact same problem with trash? Hotdog wrappers by the 1000s shouldn't be a deciding factor in a race. Regardless...
 
It was California. Really you have that at every track it is just that it happened to be a gusty day at Michigan, which was causing the stuff to be stirred up.
 
did not watch the race, might of seen 20 secs of it. i had to help my g/f move in to her dorm all day yesterday. But every track has a trash problem, but for the problem to get to the track there has to be some wide pushing it. Plus who as soon as they finish a hotdog, burger, ect gets up and finds a trash can? just put it on the ground between your legs and forget about it.

Plus 19 who the race the way every drivers does, good pit stops, drive to the front and stay there.
 
that's racin' (phrase): Expresses frustration or emotion. 1. When a small part costing just a few dollars fails and stops a $150,000 race car, that's racin'. 2. When you race a competitor for 500 miles and lose to him by just a few feet, that's racin'. 3. When a hot dog wrapper blows out of the stands, gets caught across the air vent on the front of your car and causes your engine to overheat, that's racin'. :growl:

I hated that logo on Matts car I kept thinking he had trash on his front grill. Im sure his spotter enjoyed it! :)
 
I think the announcers were even faked out twice by the USG on Matt's car. Another place, another color, something...
 
Did anyone see the the pit stop Matt had where they did not get the Duct Tape ripped off and he went out on the track and it rolled down the track and one of the announcers made a comment about "200MPH Duct Tape" I about laughed my Arse off!!!

On another note, the whole tape incident did not get Matt a penalty so I am guessig they do not count that as a "piece of equipement" like the catch can??
 
That was Elliott Sadler. Boy I am sure Kevin Lepage would feel the karma this morning had Raines been able to make it.
 
BobbyFord said:
In my opinion, what a terrible race. A 20th place car wins. It's getting to the point where I don't even enjoy a Michigan race. Junk tires, boneheads in the grandstands that can't maintain their hot dog wrappers, what a wasteof a good Sunday. At least there was an open-wheel race on at the same time for minimal entertainment. (And I can't stand open-wheel).
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You were actually thinking that Michigan might provide exciting racing?? Of all the tracks that have a chance to be decided by fuel mileage its the track at Brooklyn Michigan. If anyone thinks that is great racing then maybe they should start putting hybrids on the track. California is not that much better either but with these lousy aero packages and one groove sidewalks we can't expect short track action everywhere.

I have friends that go there every year just because its somewhat close, they claim its a big booze fest but they never come back and talk about the racing.
 
Jeff said:
First of all that track needs to do something about their trash problem. Those rednecks need to get off their butt and though out there hot dog rappers.

Secondly, that was the most screwed up race Ive seen in a good long time. How does Jr. finish 18th after running in the top ten all day? Unbelievable...

Im happy for Jermey but win a race the right way!
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I guess this forum has changed a little, I remember last year a similar comment like this got alot of people fired up :confused:
 
Im happy for Jermey but win a race the right way!--Jeff

I suppose you think Jr's win this year wasn't stolen from Kenseth on pit strategy ??? ;)
 
Name of the game is to come home 1st. I am amazed that anyone would even think to criticize a team for being legally smarter than others. Jeremy's team simply out-snookered the others.

It reminds me of the race at Rockingham a few years ago when Dale Jarrett out-snookered Kurt Busch (not with gas mileage though). :)
 
muggle not said:
Name of the game is to come home 1st. I am amazed that anyone would even think to criticize a team for being legally smarter than others. Jeremy's team simply out-snookered the others.

It reminds me of the race at Rockingham a few years ago when Dale Jarrett out-snookered Kurt Busch (not with gas mileage though). :)
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If was their favorite driver it would be a different story.
 
Oh but how about the time my fav Bill Elliott won a race when he was the last one to pit during green flag, but before he pitted, the caution came out. Of course almost everyone lined up in front of him for the restart, but it was so late in the race that they never caught him. Oh yeah, he didn't even have a 20th place car. He laughed and said, this was the easiest way to win a race. He won and it counted.
 
TRL, agree completely. I was just digging at Jeff because the #8 won the same way. Don't care how you win, just win. Jeremy's team went for it & it paid off. Kudos to them.
 
i remember a few years ago when newman won a bunch of races the same way (including michigan) i saw all is fair, a win is a win. go jeremy!
 
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