Watkins Glen 5-year driver averages

[HardScrabble]

No surprise at the top. Some good cars and drivers have had trouble here, causing averages to rise.

Rank --- Driver --- Starts --- Best --- Worst --- AVG
1 --- Jeff Gordon --- 5 --- 1 --- 23 --- 5.40
2 --- Mark Martin --- 5 --- 2 --- 15 --- 6.80
3 --- Kevin Harvick --- 1 --- 7 --- 7 --- 7.00
4 --- Wally Dallenbach --- 3 --- 7 --- 10 --- 8.67
5 --- Scott Pruett --- 1 --- 11 --- 11 --- 11.00
6 --- Tony Stewart --- 3 --- 6 --- 26 --- 12.67
7 --- Jeff Burton --- 5 --- 2 --- 29 --- 14.00
8 --- Steve Park --- 5 --- 1 --- 33 --- 14.80
9 --- Dale Jarrett --- 5 --- 4 --- 32 --- 15.80
10 --- Jerry Nadeau --- 4 --- 5 --- 38 --- 16.00
11 --- Robby Gordon --- 3 --- 4 --- 40 --- 16.00
12 --- Ron Hornaday --- 2 --- 15 --- 17 --- 16.00
13 --- Matt Kenseth --- 2 --- 10 --- 23 --- 16.50
14 --- Mike Skinner --- 4 --- 3 --- 36 --- 16.75
15 --- Bobby Labonte --- 5 --- 5 --- 37 --- 17.00
16 --- Tommy Kendall --- 1 --- 17 --- 17 --- 17.00
17 --- Ted Musgrave --- 3 --- 6 --- 27 --- 17.33
18 --- Rusty Wallace --- 5 --- 3 --- 43 --- 17.40
19 --- Dale Earnhardt --- 4 --- 11 --- 25 --- 18.00
20 --- Ken Schrader --- 5 --- 14 --- 24 --- 18.40
21 --- Joe Nemechek --- 5 --- 8 --- 32 --- 18.80
22 --- Darrell Waltrip --- 4 --- 15 --- 25 --- 19.50
23 --- Bill Elliott --- 5 --- 7 --- 28 --- 19.80
24 --- Terry Labonte --- 4 --- 8 --- 40 --- 20.00
25 --- Johnny Benson --- 5 --- 9 --- 38 --- 20.20
26 --- Ricky Rudd --- 5 --- 4 --- 40 --- 20.20
27 --- Jeremy Mayfield --- 4 --- 3 --- 34 --- 20.75
28 --- Chad Little --- 4 --- 12 --- 42 --- 21.00
29 --- PJ Jones --- 1 --- 21 --- 21 --- 21.00
30 --- Kenny Wallace --- 4 --- 14 --- 27 --- 21.50
31 --- John Andretti --- 5 --- 8 --- 37 --- 21.60
32 --- Sterling Marlin --- 5 --- 7 --- 33 --- 21.60
33 --- Michael Waltrip --- 5 --- 17 --- 28 --- 21.80
34 --- Casey Atwood --- 1 --- 22 --- 22 --- 22.00
35 --- Bobby Hamilton --- 5 --- 13 --- 36 --- 23.00
36 --- Geoff Bodine --- 4 --- 2 --- 35 --- 23.25
37 --- Steve Grissom --- 2 --- 9 --- 38 --- 23.50
38 --- Kyle Petty --- 5 --- 6 --- 41 --- 24.00
39 --- Lance Hooper --- 1 --- 24 --- 24 --- 24.00
40 --- Rick Mast --- 5 --- 19 --- 30 --- 24.40
41 --- Stacy Compton --- 2 --- 20 --- 29 --- 24.50
42 --- Boris Said --- 2 --- 8 --- 42 --- 25.00
43 --- Elliott Sadler --- 3 --- 18 --- 30 --- 25.33
44 --- Dale Earnhardt Jr --- 2 --- 12 --- 40 --- 26.00
45 --- Todd Bodine --- 3 --- 5 --- 42 --- 27.33
46 --- Robert Pressley --- 2 --- 26 --- 29 --- 27.50
47 --- Jimmy Spencer --- 5 --- 16 --- 38 --- 27.80
48 --- Brett Bodine --- 3 --- 13 --- 39 --- 28.67
49 --- Kurt Busch --- 1 --- 29 --- 29 --- 29.00
50 --- Rich Bickle --- 2 --- 22 --- 36 --- 29.00
51 --- Ricky Craven --- 3 --- 17 --- 35 --- 29.00
52 --- David Green --- 2 --- 22 --- 37 --- 29.50
53 --- Jeff Green --- 1 --- 30 --- 30 --- 30.00
54 --- Kevin Lepage --- 3 --- 25 --- 33 --- 30.00
55 --- Dorsey Schroeder --- 1 --- 31 --- 31 --- 31.00
56 --- Ted Christopher --- 1 --- 31 --- 31 --- 31.00
57 --- Dave Blaney --- 2 --- 28 --- 35 --- 31.50
58 --- Kenny Irwin --- 2 --- 26 --- 37 --- 31.50
59 --- Ernie Irvan --- 3 --- 21 --- 41 --- 31.67
60 --- Ron Fellows --- 4 --- 2 --- 43 --- 32.25
61 --- Ward Burton --- 5 --- 21 --- 43 --- 33.60
62 --- Anthony Lazzaro --- 1 --- 34 --- 34 --- 34.00
63 --- Tom Hubert --- 2 --- 33 --- 36 --- 34.50
64 --- Hut Stricklin --- 1 --- 36 --- 36 --- 36.00
65 --- Brian Simo --- 1 --- 37 --- 37 --- 37.00
66 --- Derrike Cope --- 2 --- 38 --- 39 --- 38.50
67 --- David Murry --- 1 --- 39 --- 39 --- 39.00
68 --- Mike Bliss --- 1 --- 39 --- 39 --- 39.00
69 --- Dick Trickle --- 1 --- 41 --- 41 --- 41.00
70 --- Morgan Shepherd --- 1 --- 43 --- 43 --- 43.00

 

[TN-Ward-Fan]

OK, so what yer tellin me is, this is NOT the week to bet the mortgage on Ward...

 

[HardScrabble]

It's your mortgage, but Ward has struggled at the Glen.

Career 8 starts beginning in 1994.

Best Finish 19th in 1995
Best Qualifying 7th in 2000 (his only top ten)
Average Finish 30.37
Average Start 21
4 DNF's

 

[TN-Ward-Fan]

The very thought of Ward on a road course scares the lunch out of me. The boy got talent, but ain't nobody gonna nickname him Parnelli, that's for sure.

Maybe NASCAR should let him put a 4X4 kit under his car for the road courses...

 

[66mustang]

I would have never thought Wally would have such a good average at the Glen.

 

[kat2220]

HS, how many wins at the Glen for each of those who are currently Cup drivers?? I think Jeff leads, but could be wrong. PURRRRRR

 

[HardScrabble]

Wins for current WC drivers

Jeff Gordon - 4
Mark Martin - 3
Rusty Wallace - 2
Ricky Rudd - 2
Steve Park - 1
Geoff Bodine - 1
Kyle Petty - 1

 

[kat2220]

Originally posted by HardScrabble
Wins for current WC drivers

Jeff Gordon - 4
Mark Martin - 3
Rusty Wallace - 2
Ricky Rudd - 2
Steve Park - 1
Geoff Bodine - 1
Kyle Petty - 1

NOW THIS MAKES it really interesting. Do YOU think someone else might win this weekend, like Robby or Jimmie??

Do you know the odds yet on this race?? PURRRRRRRRRR

 

[HardScrabble]

Early Odds:

Jeff Gordon 5-2
Robby Gordon 6-1
Tony Stewart 7-1
Ricky Rudd 8-1
Rusty Wallace 12-1
Mark Martin 12-1
Dale Jarrett 12-1
Jerry Nadeau 15-1
Jeff Burton 20-1
Kurt Busch 20-1
Matt Kenseth 20-1
Bill Elliott 25-1
Ryan Newman 25-1
Jimmie Johnson 25-1
Kevin Harvick 25-1
Ron Fellows 25-1
Bobby Labonte 30-1
Dale Earnhardt Jr 30-1
Sterling Marlin 30-1
Boris Said 35-1
John Andretti 40-1
Ricky Craven 40-1
Scott Pruett 40-1
Steve Park 40-1
Ward Burton 50-1
Dave Blaney 60-1
Johnny Benson 60-1
Bobby Hamilton Sr 70-1
Elliott Sadler 70-1
Jeremy Mayfield 70-1
Michael Waltrip 70-1
Terry Labonte 70-1
Jeff Green 85-1
Jimmy Spencer 85-1
Joe Nemechek 85-1
Ken Schrader 100-1
Casey Atwood 125-1
Kyle Petty 125-1
Mike Skinner 125-1
Todd Bodine 125-1
Field (all others) 125-1
Kenny Wallace 150-1
Brett Bodine 175-1

 

[kat2220]

Please don't tell me it's Spencer

 

[HardScrabble]

Nope

 

[smack500]

what are the averages at somoma and the averages for both road courses combined and who has the most wins at both road courses combined

 

[TN-Ward-Fan]

I like Mark at 12:1

 

[smack500]

whats dale sr s average at road courses ???

 

[HardScrabble]

Smack

I can probably dig all that up for ya. It'll take a little bit of work. Stay tuned.

 

[smack500]

alright where do you get your info from its so hard to get info on nacar pre 1993 on the net unles its specific stats on a single driver

 

[HardScrabble]

You're right it is hard to find.

I have a lot of old data on my computer, but sometimes I have to compile single driver stats to get to the answer.

Winners of every race are easy to find, but the full results are much tougher. Qualifying records are even worse.

 

[HardScrabble]

Dales averages at the different road courses.

Riverside

Avg finish 13th in 8 races

Sears Point

Avg finish 8.6 in 12 races

Watkins Glen

Avg Finish 11.53 in 15 races

 

[HardScrabble]

Career Watkins Glen stats. Not everyone who has run there, but most of the notables I think.

-- Starts -- Wins -- Best -- Worst -- AVG
Tim Richmond -- 2 -- 1 -- 1 -- 10 -- 5.50
Mark Martin -- 14 -- 3 -- 1 -- 28 -- 5.86
Kevin Harvick -- 1 -- -- 7 -- 7 -- 7.00
Jeff Gordon -- 9 -- 4 -- 1 -- 31 -- 8.22
Wally Dallenbach -- 9 -- -- 2 -- 32 -- 10.11
Bobby Allison -- 2 -- -- 9 -- 12 -- 10.50
Dale Earnhardt -- 15 -- -- 3 -- 25 -- 11.53
Tony Stewart -- 3 -- -- 6 -- 26 -- 12.67
Darrell Waltrip -- 14 -- -- 2 -- 25 -- 13.07
Bobby Labonte -- 9 -- -- 5 -- 37 -- 13.44
Ricky Rudd -- 16 -- 2 -- 1 -- 40 -- 14.06
Bill Elliott -- 15 -- -- 3 -- 28 -- 14.13
Davey Allison -- 6 -- -- 4 -- 20 -- 14.33
Rusty Wallace -- 16 -- 2 -- 1 -- 43 -- 14.75
Steve Park -- 5 -- 1 -- 1 -- 33 -- 14.80
Richard Petty -- 7 -- -- 9 -- 28 -- 15.57
Terry Labonte -- 15 -- -- 2 -- 40 -- 15.87
Jerry Nadeau -- 4 -- -- 5 -- 38 -- 16.00
Robby Gordon -- 3 -- -- 4 -- 40 -- 16.00
Matt Kenseth -- 2 -- -- 10 -- 23 -- 16.50
Mike Skinner -- 4 -- -- 3 -- 36 -- 16.75
Phil Parsons -- 5 -- -- 4 -- 33 -- 16.80
Benny Parsons -- 3 -- -- 5 -- 39 -- 17.33
Sterling Marlin -- 15 -- -- 6 -- 33 -- 17.47
Alan Kulwicki -- 6 -- -- 6 -- 39 -- 17.50
Joe Nemechek -- 9 -- -- 8 -- 32 -- 18.00
Morgan Shepherd -- 12 -- -- 2 -- 43 -- 18.00
Dale Jarrett -- 15 -- -- 4 -- 36 -- 18.20
Ken Schrader -- 16 -- -- 4 -- 36 -- 18.44
Ted Musgrave -- 9 -- -- 6 -- 34 -- 18.56
Michael Waltrip -- 16 -- -- 4 -- 35 -- 18.63
Joe Ruttman -- 3 -- -- 9 -- 33 -- 18.67
Chad Little -- 5 -- -- 11 -- 42 -- 19.00
Geoff Bodine -- 15 -- 1 -- 1 -- 35 -- 19.07
Jeff Burton -- 8 -- -- 2 -- 38 -- 19.25
Johnny Benson -- 6 -- -- 9 -- 38 -- 19.33
Rick Wilson -- 7 -- -- 8 -- 32 -- 19.71
Tommy Kendall -- 5 -- -- 8 -- 27 -- 19.80
Brett Bodine -- 12 -- -- 3 -- 39 -- 20.00
John Andretti -- 7 -- -- 7 -- 37 -- 20.14
Harry Gant -- 9 -- -- 10 -- 34 -- 21.00
Kenny Wallace -- 6 -- -- 9 -- 31 -- 21.00
Ernie Irvan -- 11 -- 1 -- 1 -- 41 -- 21.09
PJ Jones -- 3 -- -- 8 -- 35 -- 21.33
Jeremy Mayfield -- 6 -- -- 3 -- 34 -- 21.67
Casey Atwood -- 1 -- -- 22 -- 22 -- 22.00
Bobby Hillin -- 10 -- -- 5 -- 35 -- 22.30
Dave Marcis -- 10 -- -- 3 -- 37 -- 22.50
Kyle Petty -- 14 -- 1 -- 1 -- 41 -- 22.71
Jimmy Spencer -- 11 -- -- 3 -- 38 -- 23.91
Lake Speed -- 6 -- -- 13 -- 37 -- 24.50
Stacy Compton -- 2 -- -- 20 -- 29 -- 24.50
Dorsey Schroeder -- 4 -- -- 13 -- 38 -- 24.75
Boris Said -- 2 -- -- 8 -- 42 -- 25.00
Steve Grissom -- 5 -- -- 9 -- 38 -- 25.20
Elliott Sadler -- 3 -- -- 18 -- 30 -- 25.33
Dale Earnhardt Jr -- 2 -- -- 12 -- 40 -- 26.00
Ricky Craven -- 5 -- -- 10 -- 36 -- 26.60
Bobby Hamilton 10 -- -- 13 -- 38 -- 27.10
Hut Stricklin 9 -- -- 8 -- 40 -- 27.67
Todd Bodine 7 -- -- 5 -- 42 -- 28.00
Neil Bonnett 4 -- -- 5 -- 38 -- 29.00
Kurt Busch 1 -- -- 29 -- 29 -- 29.00
Derrike Cope 12 -- -- 11 -- 40 -- 29.33

 

[Awesome_Bill]

Wow after reading this thread I feel Much Smarter. A ton Of info from the man HS.