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You have the choice of Las Vegas, Phoenix, or Fontana. Which track as a fan are you attending? Trying to decide which race and Fontana seems like the most intriguing.
 
I've always wanted to make a 4 or 5 day Vegas trip out of their race. Def on my to-do list in the next couple years. Fontana has put on some good shows the last few years so you can't go wrong with that either.

Phoenix is one of my least favorite tracks on the circuit so I'd probably never consider it.
 
Phoenix. But when we go, probably next year, we'll make the western circuit. It's too far to pull the RV for one race.
 
Phoenix for the racing and would be headed to the Grand Canyon afterward with a stop in Sedona.

Las Vegas if you are into gambling and/or partying.
 
Phoenix for the racing and would be headed to the Grand Canyon afterward with a stop in Sedona.

Las Vegas if you are into gambling and/or partying.
We had a great time in Vegas for four days, never partied, and gambled about $10. Hoover Dam and Valley of Fire state park are good for a day. There's a free chocolate factory tour with samples and a great cactus garden. Most of the hotels on the Strip have free shows that can be watched from the sidewalk - lava eruptions, pirate attacks, choreographed water fountains. Some hotels have rotating art or history exhibits. In the winter you can ski at Mt. Charleston. And boy, can you eat some great food for cheap in that town.

Gotta give my high school home town some love. But for racing I'd still go to Phoenix.
 
I think all three tracks produce good racing, but Vegas is a whole different experience outside of NASCAR.
 
You can get to the Canyon almost as easily from Vegas, and from Vegas it's also easy to get to Zion National Park (which I prefer).

With that said, leaving out the non-racing attractions, I'd go to the Phoenix track.

I have lost count as to how many times I have flown into McCarron, rented a car and gone into Cali, AZ and Utah as the flights are cheap and Vegas is a great jumping off point. While I love northern AZ I also enjoy the canyons in Utah as well as the change in geographical features. I also like to debate LDS adherents but that is a different story.
 
And that's why Zion is better than the Canyon. At GC, you stand at the top and look down. If you want to hike it, the easy part (going downhill) comes first, and the hard part comes after you're tired.

At Zion, you enter the park at the BOTTOM of the canyon. If you want to hike it you go uphill to start, so when you're tired it's mostly downhill.

In the warm months, it's cooler at the bottom of Zion than at the top of GC. Actually, it's cooler overall since Zion is at a higher elevation.
I have lost count as to how many times I have flown into McCarron, rented a car and gone into Cali, AZ and Utah as the flights are cheap and Vegas is a great jumping off point. While I love northern AZ I also enjoy the canyons in Utah as well as the change in geographical features. I also like to debate LDS adherents but that is a different story.
I'm incredibly fond of southwestern Utah. Could you tell? We'd go there from Vegas in the summer, gaining 4000' of altitude and shedding about 25 degrees F. There's some great fishing up there. The background light is minimal, so you can see stars going out to forever.

Why fly to debate the LDS guys? Mike and Ike are already obligated to come to your door. ;)
 
I haven't been to Zion (or too many other National Parks for that matter) but nothing dropped my jaw more than seeing the Grand Canyon the first time. It forced me to rethink my whole worldview about man's significance on this planet and the magnificence of nature and time.
 
I haven't been to Zion (or too many other National Parks for that matter) but nothing dropped my jaw more than seeing the Grand Canyon the first time. It forced me to rethink my whole worldview about man's significance on this planet and the magnificence of nature and time.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Big Ditch too. It's just not the first park I'd visit if I was coming out of Vegas. Zion, Bryce, the less frequently visited north rim of the Canyon, then back to Vegas and around to the popular south rim.
 
And that's why Zion is better than the Canyon. At GC, you stand at the top and look down. If you want to hike it, the easy part (going downhill) comes first, and the hard part comes after you're tired.

At Zion, you enter the park at the BOTTOM of the canyon. If you want to hike it you go uphill to start, so when you're tired it's mostly downhill.

In the warm months, it's cooler at the bottom of Zion than at the top of GC. Actually, it's cooler overall since Zion is at a higher elevation.

I'm incredibly fond of southwestern Utah. Could you tell? We'd go there from Vegas in the summer, gaining 4000' of altitude and shedding about 25 degrees F. There's some great fishing up there. The background light is minimal, so you can see stars going out to forever.

Why fly to debate the LDS guys? Mike and Ike are already obligated to come to your door. ;)

The LDS only have a nominal presence in my area so I don't get to pin their ears back as often as I would like. Primarily I am stuck with with JW's and others that say they believe in the Bible but don't follow it so a little variety is always nice.
 
Phoenix hands down IMO. Can't wait to take a seat on the hill and watch it in March.:D

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Hmm, It might have something to do with that I am bias and live here, but PIR for me

We have plenty of casino's here in the Phoenix area, of course its nothing like Vegas.
 
I've been to all 3 but only to Fontana in 2013 (luckily) for a day. Vegas is fun but have been there numerous times.
 
I love the racing at ACS. When they decide to repave it, I'll probably make the 7 hour(give or take) trek to Phx for awhile.. Vegas would be about 3 hours closer though.
 
What does this mean? It's a serious question. Well, sorta serious, LOL.
We're don't go anywhere crowded up to the fire regulation maximum, with music louder than the plane we flew in on, where the apparent goal is getting drunk to the point of calling Ralph.

At least, those are the circumstances I usually hear describes as 'partying' in a tourist context. I open to other working definitions, but likely we didn't do anything covered by those either. That's us; two sticks who happened to land together in the same mud. :)
 
We don't go anywhere crowded up to the fire regulation maximum, with music louder than the plane we flew in on, where the apparent goal is getting drunk to the point of calling Ralph.

At least, those are the circumstances I usually hear describes as 'partying' in a tourist context. I open to other working definitions, but likely we didn't do anything covered by those either. That's us; two sticks who happened to land together in the same mud. :)

We don't go anywhere crowded up to the fire regulation maximum, with music louder than the plane we flew in on, where the apparent goal is getting drunk to the point of calling Ralph.

^^^^This^^^^ goes for me and mine as well. :booya:
 
The west coast swing in theory sounds great. But the problem is I went to vegas, and a couple weeks later I had a. Chance to go to California, this time it was all free and I could have gotten hot passes and I think even suite passes from someone I cant remember. My dad was paying for gas and the room. The problem is I couldn't be gone again that quick. Had I had a couple months in between I could have went and did cali too. I live in Utah, so for me it would be better if the races were spread out. I think it's a bad thing for attendance. If you live in the area you might go to more than one race if they weren't one right after the other.
 
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