Whackjob shoots 4 police officers near Seattle

Whackjob is maybe a little strong. Given how everyone else is tightening their belts except those paid by the taxpayer ... Well let's just say that uniformed tax collectors are easy targets of opportunity. Frankly, I'm amazed it's taken this long.
 
Whackjob is maybe a little strong. Given how everyone else is tightening their belts except those paid by the taxpayer ... Well let's just say that uniformed tax collectors are easy targets of opportunity. Frankly, I'm amazed it's taken this long.

Go **** yourself dude.
 
From what i read this wasn't a whack job, it seemed to be a planned killing, the killer knowing these cops would be at that location at that time. You can bet the entire State Police is out to kill this guy, when one or more of their own is gunned down in cold blood like that they have very little restraint.
 
Whackjob is maybe a little strong. Given how everyone else is tightening their belts except those paid by the taxpayer ... Well let's just say that uniformed tax collectors are easy targets of opportunity. Frankly, I'm amazed it's taken this long.

Since I am a police officer, I take that remark personally. The guy is a whackjob, lunatic, and other choice words I cannot say on here.

Your comment is absolutley in bad taste. If I ran this site, I would put a temp ban on you and let you think about what you said for awhile.:mad:
 
Danica .. If you ran this site, I wouldn't bother being a member of it. I stand by my words, deny them with evidence if you can.

and Fergy ... you first, Sunshine.
 
Danica .. If you ran this site, I wouldn't bother being a member of it. I stand by my words, deny them with evidence if you can.

and Fergy ... you first, Sunshine.

I think its a disgrace to the officers and their families that you would say such a thing.
 
Given your self-proclaimed bias on the topic, your opinion is worth less than the effort it took to read it. Police don't work for anyone except the corporation that pays them. Take a look at any modern city's charter .... it's a declaration of 'corporation'. A money making business. You haven't been electing mayors, but CEOs. A sheriff is a lawman. A police officer is a corporate security guard.

As for their families .... the cops were thinking of them when accepted to wear a uniform and accept a paycheque. They chose the hazard, for the benefit. Getting whacked is part of that. But at least they were whacked in uniform, so all those other lucrative benefits of dying on the job come in to play. The families probably won't even have to pay the 2-10K for the funeral ... Joe Taxpayer will pick up the tab on that too.
 
agree with fergy and dpr. you're way out of line professur. these are real human beings doing a difficult and dangerous job. the way you're treating their deaths is a disgrace.
 
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for the police officers, families, and co-workers. RIP
 
This is the world we live in, cops and authority figures are looked at with microscopes to make sure everything they do is by the book while protecting citizens rights and trying to add a sense of safty. There is always some whackjobs out there but alot of time people push them off and dont care if they get medical treatment. Unfortinitly what ends up happening is innocent people get hurt or killed, and alot of times they target police officers knowing what there limits are. There has been a case going on around here for almost a year now involving a man who was trying to start fights with people on Bart (Bay Area Recreational Transite) Train, the officer was called in and grabed the man off the train when he finaly got the man off the train he resisted arrest and started yelling at the officer, while the officer was trying to cuff him another officer felt it was right to use a Taser gun on him to calm him down. Well the Taser gun is black and was located right next to the officers loaded gun. The end result the suspect is dead and we got 100 passengers saying the officer murdered him. Now the officer is up for premeditated murder which is complete BS and the day after the incident a major riot occured causing thousands of dollars worth of damages, now they have to move his case because of fear of riots. And now there saying if he isnt convicted of premeditated murder people are going to go out and start another riot.

The point of the story is that cops have very little leanance on handeling things. Another thing is the same people that riot and bash the police are the same ones when there car gets stolen or home broken into they start crying out for help from the police.
 
I've watched this story on the news and various film clips.
Premeditated=Murder 1 no. Murder 2 or Man 1 yes

I fully understand the excitement and chaos of the moment but any cop who pulls his service weapon by mistake instead of his taser and uses it is guility.
FWIW cops I've seen always carry the taser/pepper spray opposite of their weapon.
 
My Brother-in-law is a cop. I don't know about your mounted buddies up there but here for the most part the cops are gentle and friendly.

R.I.P. to the fallen officers and God Bless their families.
 
And the accused has been executed before he could testify. Gee, what a coincidence. Never saw that coming. And now everyone will applaud how they've saved the cost of a trial and imprisonment.
 
Lacking the insight and understanding of 'why' he did them, that's awful presumptious of you. I hope you're as absolute if they autopsy his corpse and find a 3cm brain tumour.

A bigger question is why did the powers that Bee keep putting a criminal with his record back out on the streets time after time ... when a guy was kept in jail for 10 days after his wife was killed ... BY A MOOSE!!!
 
Maurice Clemmons is responsible for his actions. Well.. (former) Gov. Mike Huckabee might have to take on some responsibility. He (Clemmons) chose to willfully take 4 lifes. Doesn't matter if they are cops or not.
For the most part around here, the police is pretty helpful. They are some smart butts, but that's in any profession.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20091129/US.Officers.Shot/
Maurice Clemmons was carrying a handgun he took from one of the dead officers when a Seattle policeman recognized him near a stolen car in a working-class south Seattle neighborhood about 2:45 a.m., Assistant Police Chief Jim Pugel said.

The vehicle was running but unoccupied when the officer pulled up, radioed in the license plate number and realized the car was stolen, Pugel said.

The officer saw something moving, got out of his car, saw Clemmons and ordered him to show his hands and stop.

"He wouldn't stop," Pugel said. "The officer fired several rounds."

Clemmons also had sustained a serious gunshot wound from one of the four officers killed in the coffee-shop shooting.

Police planned to arrest more people who helped Clemmons.

"We expect to have maybe six or seven people in custody by the day's end," said Ed Troyer, a spokesman for the Pierce County sheriff. "Some are friends, some are acquaintances, some are partners in crime, some are relatives. Now they're all partners in crime."
 
Huckabee shouldn't give up his day job, his political career is over. He'll be "Willie Horton'd" as Dukakis was.

As for cops, around here they all seem to suffer from a superiority complex. That includes my brother who I've heard has retired as a lt after 32 years on the force where I lived before. One of, if not the biggest, a-holes you'll ever meet. Niether I nor my other brother have had anything to do with him since our mothers funeral in 1992, no contact of any sort. We like it like that. :)
 
This story ended like it should, the suspect deceased. That is true justice.
 
This story ended like it should, the suspect deceased. That is true justice.

A cop who applauds executing a suspect (read that word again) instead of bring him to trial. Thank you for making my case for me.

Lemme spell it out for you, MallCop. "Innocent until proven guilty", and "Has the right to face his accusers". Do you recognize those phrases? Since the 'accused" (and I use that word loosely since I've yet to hear that he was served an arrest warrant. Failing that, he's not even 'accused' but 'suspect') was denied the second part, the first part cannot be acted upon. THAT MEANS THEY KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN.
 
A cop who applauds executing a suspect (read that word again) instead of bring him to trial. Thank you for making my case for me.

Lemme spell it out for you, MallCop. "Innocent until proven guilty", and "Has the right to face his accusers". Do you recognize those phrases? Since the 'accused" (and I use that word loosely since I've yet to hear that he was served an arrest warrant. Failing that, he's not even 'accused' but 'suspect') was denied the second part, the first part cannot be acted upon. THAT MEANS THEY KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN.


sure they did.....Keep telling that to yourself...The family of the KILLER kept hiding him....The KILLER should have turned himeself in. The KILLER is now DEAD. He brought it on himself.
 
A cop who applauds executing a suspect (read that word again) instead of bring him to trial. Thank you for making my case for me.

Lemme spell it out for you, MallCop. "Innocent until proven guilty", and "Has the right to face his accusers". Do you recognize those phrases? Since the 'accused" (and I use that word loosely since I've yet to hear that he was served an arrest warrant. Failing that, he's not even 'accused' but 'suspect') was denied the second part, the first part cannot be acted upon. THAT MEANS THEY KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN.

Maybe if he listened to the commands from the cop, he'd would be alive. But I'm sure that's too hard for you to understand. You are either someone who hates cops because you get too many tickets and they pick on you or you're just a ****ing a**hole.

I'm thinking ****ing a**hole myself...
 
And the accused has been executed before he could testify. Gee, what a coincidence. Never saw that coming. And now everyone will applaud how they've saved the cost of a trial and imprisonment.

See my previous post in this thread about what happens when a cop gets gunned down. I too take offense to most of what you have posted in this thread. My best friend of 24 years is a cop and he puts up with a lot of bullchit from the general public. It is a high stress job that is not easy by any means, i don't think they get paid enough.
 
I think I have a great idea. Let's send those who helped this idiot to Canada, Montreal to be exact and put them under the control of one professor.

Maybe anarchy is good for you prof, but if everyone was innocent until proven guilty, they would never be put on trial. I'm afraid that defending a cop killer isn't something that I would brag about, at least not in person unless you are in the presence of other cop killers.
 
I think I have a great idea. Let's send those who helped this idiot to Canada, Montreal to be exact and put them under the control of one professor.

Maybe anarchy is good for you prof, but if everyone was innocent until proven guilty, they would never be put on trial. I'm afraid that defending a cop killer isn't something that I would brag about, at least not in person unless you are in the presence of other cop killers.

If, Buckaroo? If? ROFL. WHAT A BUNCHY OF HYPOCRITES. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

The European council, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights ... the US constitution of the United States avoids it, but the US supreme court affirmed it. Innocent until proven guilty. Anarchy? So much for the vaunted American Freedoms. You sniveling cowards make me laugh. Your founding fathers said it best. Better 100 guilty men go free than one be imprisoned. They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. And my personal favorite ... Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.

Your founding fathers knew tyranny well. They fought against it and often paid with their lives. You fools wouldn't recognize it .... which is odd since you embrace it so closely.

Small wonder America has fallen so low.

Bucky, Fergy ... do what an armed thug tells you? So I guess the french resistance in WWII had it all wrong, eh? The KBG were the good guys, perhaps? Do you even read what you post? His family hid him because they knew as well as I did that the cops had no intention of taking him alive. Are you telling me that you've never heard of a criminal hiding until a negotiated surrender (ensuring his safety) was arranged? We're they shown a warrant for his arrest? You don't know. Why would anyone turn anyone in without that? In fact, as stated above, until he was served he had no reason to surrender. Did you read what they did to an empty building they thought he was it? Was that the action of people trying to take him alive?

Mophard ... I don't know you or your best friend. Maybe he's the exception. I dunno. But I've met enough cops (in and out of uniform) to never trust any of them. I suppose if you were best buds with one, you could count on him to not actively try to score points off you. And for the record Fuggy, I've had a total of 2 tickets in over 25 years behind the wheel. Neither of them for more than 10mph over the limit. Both from armed tax collectors sitting waiting at speed change sites. I guess there weren't any dangerous criminals around to shoot those days, eh?

Oh, and Buckaroo .. that's alleged cop killer. I expect any evidence against him will wind up alongside the missing bits of Kennedy's head
 
If, Buckaroo? If? ROFL. WHAT A BUNCHY OF HYPOCRITES. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

The European council, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights ... the US constitution of the United States avoids it, but the US supreme court affirmed it. Innocent until proven guilty. Anarchy? So much for the vaunted American Freedoms. You sniveling cowards make me laugh. Your founding fathers said it best. Better 100 guilty men go free than one be imprisoned. They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. And my personal favorite ... Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.

Your founding fathers knew tyranny well. They fought against it and often paid with their lives. You fools wouldn't recognize it .... which is odd since you embrace it so closely.

Small wonder America has fallen so low.

Bucky, Fergy ... do what an armed thug tells you? So I guess the french resistance in WWII had it all wrong, eh? The KBG were the good guys, perhaps? Do you even read what you post? His family hid him because they knew as well as I did that the cops had no intention of taking him alive. Are you telling me that you've never heard of a criminal hiding until a negotiated surrender (ensuring his safety) was arranged? We're they shown a warrant for his arrest? You don't know. Why would anyone turn anyone in without that? In fact, as stated above, until he was served he had no reason to surrender. Did you read what they did to an empty building they thought he was it? Was that the action of people trying to take him alive?

Mophard ... I don't know you or your best friend. Maybe he's the exception. I dunno. But I've met enough cops (in and out of uniform) to never trust any of them. I suppose if you were best buds with one, you could count on him to not actively try to score points off you. And for the record Fuggy, I've had a total of 2 tickets in over 25 years behind the wheel. Neither of them for more than 10mph over the limit. Both from armed tax collectors sitting waiting at speed change sites. I guess there weren't any dangerous criminals around to shoot those days, eh?

Oh, and Buckaroo .. that's alleged cop killer. I expect any evidence against him will wind up alongside the missing bits of Kennedy's head

Apparently the police up there in socialist Canada are worse than here in the US.
 
The killer the day before the killings bragged to some friends he was going to be on the news the next day because he was going to kill some cops. This guy knew the cops were going to be there at the restaurant before their shift. It was planned, he also took a gun off one the dead officers which is what he had in his waistband when the cop shot and killled him he was reaching for this gun. I have many cop friends that i hang out with, none of them are a holes. Perhaps you had a run in with a cop that was. IMO this guy got what he deserved, justice was served.
 
How sad is it that an avowed monarchist has to cite your own avowed 'human rights' to Americans. I'm done with this thread. Enjoy your linch mob. I wish you well when it turns in your direction. Remember to tell your loved ones to turn you in.
 
As they should, if you can't man up to your responsibilities when you are in the wrong.

Yep that is for sure, i still feel this was a cut and dried case. Why let the guy use up Tax dollars rotting in jail? He reached for a gun, the cop did what he was trained to do, and defended himself. End of story!
 
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