What happened on the last lap?

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I think I saw Robby run into someone.. But was it him that started it?
Perhaps there were two crashes? There was not enough shown for me to get it straight.
Betsy :rolleyes:
 
Robby's car pushed up in to the 16. He could of drove it in to hard, or it just got tight, just a Racing Deal.

No clue what happaned with the 9, they just showed one replay, him and Tony were side by side, but i dont know if there was any contact or not, no one said anything else about it.

There was a few werecks on the last lap.
 
As usual the coverage sucked, 1 replay of what happened. All i heard was what a great guy Mr. Hendrick was for the last 10 laps, i almost turned off the TV!
 
I can't say for sure what happened with Kasey, Stewart and Raines, but I can tell you where they were on the track, having been watching track pass. Kasey and Stewart were racing with Kasey gaining on Tony. Raines was behind Kasey and Kahne was passing Stewart. What ever happened, Tony Raines was probably just an innocent bystander. I imagine that Tony wasn't going to give Kasey any room and they probably touched which caused the accident. I was waiting for them to interview Kasey, but as y'all know, they didn't. I don't know if Kasey would have been willing to go on TV anyway. Early in the race when he was behind Tony and trying to pass him, he couldn't get around him and used some pretty racy language over the radio. Good thing that TV wasn't monitoring him at the time as I'm sure that NASCAR would ban Kasey for life for what he said. :) As I said, I don't know what happened and I don't care to argue it with anyone, but from where I stand, I can pretty much guess as to what happened. For what happened, Kasey is now out of the Chase.
 
yea, that coverage sucked. and what all does martinsville from many years ago have to do with today?

I wasn't expecting a kahne interview, he's probably in the Infield care center and/or hospital getting checked out. I'm not so sure that wall didn't get blown across town. Did he even catch the safer barrier?

Raines hit a spring or something off kahne's car, thats why his car tried to take flight.
 
Yeh he lost 4 spots, what a hard hit too...kind of strange only 1 replay of an important incident on the track. Just goes to show you who matters in Nascar and who doesn't. This kind of Media coverage is really starting to irk me, at least they (NBC) could of alluded to what happened, but instead they are too preocuppied with Johnsons' burnouts. The burnouts are fine, but once you have seen 1 it is no big deal. I for one can't wait for ESPN to take over next year.
 
I feel an update on Kahne's condition would have been nice. It was a pretty bad crash.


From what I saw on the replay, Kasey was passing Tony on the inside and lost air off the spoiler. I don't think it was Tonys fault but he certainly didn't do any giving in this circumstance.
 
With robby it's never a racin deal, he drove in there way too hard and possibly knocked the biff out of the chase
 
there was some other car behind robby..he might had touched robby sending robby into biffle
 
reck said:
there was some other car behind robby..he might had touched robby sending robby into biffle
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I've replayed it several times nobody touched robby
 
oh ok. NBC failed to even show multiple angles of the wreck(s) stupid nbc people..
 
buckaroo said:
I can't say for sure what happened with Kasey, Stewart and Raines
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Then Don't!!!

buckaroo said:
I imagine that Tony wasn't going to give Kasey any room and they probably touched which caused the accident.
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And what's your point? It was the last lap they were racing for position so exactly why should he give anything? You are starting to sound like Mark Martin who thinks everyone should move out of his way.

I am so tired of this BS PC stuff that is happening to NASCAR, let them race already!!!!
 
that goes both ways with tony too..3 races in a row that tony has been involved in some kind of wreck..although he wasn't in it..he helped cause it
 
wolfcub said:
Then Don't!!!



And what's your point? It was the last lap they were racing for position so exactly why should he give anything? You are starting to sound like Mark Martin who thinks everyone should move out of his way.

I am so tired of this BS PC stuff that is happening to NASCAR, let them race already!!!!
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i agree.. what happen to the good ole days of racing is racing?? Rules that are made for safety issues are great but it is getting way to petty!!! What are they suppose to do all line up in a row and use their blinkers??..LMAO!!!!!
 
watching nascar perf, it looks like either robby drove it in entirely too far, or he thought it would stick and it didn't (i would have thought it would too)
 
reck said:
that goes both ways with tony too..3 races in a row that tony has been involved in some kind of wreck..although he wasn't in it..he helped cause it
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Would you please explain HTF Tony helped cause that accident? The replay they showed on SPEED News sure shows Tony had NOTHING to do with it, and from the one they showed on NBC did not in any way show Tony caused anything, just that he happened to be on the track at the same time as these people were wrecking.

I think there's a few posters here that have proved themselves to be bigger morons than the guy they keep calling names.
 
Eagle1 said:
I think there's a few posters here that have proved themselves to be bigger morons than the guy they keep calling names.
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You aiming that one at me Eagle? Maybe you don't like what I have to say and maybe you do and maybe you weren't even talking about me. I don't care and neither should you. If you don't like what I say, you don't need to slam me for it. I sure as hell don't slam you for your opinions, nor will I ever. I may never agree with you, but that doesn't mean I'm right, but it sure doesn't mean that you are either.

Y'all aren't going to find any fan who yearns for the old ways of racing more than I do. The whole reason for this thread was to speculate what happened on that last lap with two different incidents. I speculated, and I mean vaguely speculated on one of them, and only from the view I had, which wasn't very good to say the least. However, listening to Kasey Kahne throughout the race, and seeing how he reacted around several drivers, I have a good idea of what MIGHT have happened, judging from what I observed. Of course my own biases will enter in with my judgement as do all of us when we post a reply. Just for the record, I'm almost as much of a fan of Tony Stewart as I am of Kasey Kahne, or Jeff Gordon or Earnhardt Jr. Tony is a racer first and a human being second. That is a great trait for a racer, but not always good for another human being. There is a world of difference between Tony and Kasey, and though they have been friends for many years, I'm not at all sure that at this moment, Kasey thinks much of Tony. I know for a fact that early in the race, Kasey called Tony a MFC on the radio. Now that surprised me, but if he thought that of him early on, when he wasn't trying to pass him, what must he think of him now when he wrecked while trying to pass him, Tony's fault or not.

Now if that warrents calling me a moron, then so be it...and you can ignore me from now on and you won't be reading anything from this moron.
 
dude mellow out and stop calling names..if there is one moron here is you dumbass
 
reck, I'm not sure who you are referring to with the dumbass comment. But, that isn't necessary.

And, Eagle, you know better, too.

There have been MANY times when I don't agree with something that was said about Jimmie Johnson or Jeff Gordon or ANY other driver, but I don't resort to Junior High name calling. Majority of us here are adults. Let's try to act like it. Okay?
 
OH GOOD G_D, IT'S RACING my friends! You need to stop being witches and LET IT GO!
 
i meant it for eagle1.

my opinion, my problem..i guess that makes me a moron? i dont think so..he needs to stop calling names.
 
reck said:
i meant it for eagle1.

my opinion, my problem..i guess that makes me a moron? i dont think so..he needs to stop calling names.
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So, because this was said
Originally posted by Eagle1
I think there's a few posters here that have proved themselves to be bigger morons than the guy they keep calling names.
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you, reck, felt you could reciprocate with name calling. Give me a damn break. :rolleyes:
 
why do most posts end up like this? I feel like I'm reading posts from teenaged girls.

I think R. Gordon was just being himself and driving too hardand stupid, from what I saw.
 
kam, it's because some folks just get their knickers in a twist. Oh, and that happened not because of what was said about R.Gordon, but regarding Tony Stewart. :rolleyes:
 
kam said:
why do most posts end up like this? I feel like I'm reading posts from teenaged girls.

I think R. Gordon was just being himself and driving too hardand stupid, from what I saw.
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Robby's like Tony, you love him or hate hate him. If you hate him no matter what he does, if its a racing deal or not it will be his falght.

I like Robby, Looks like he went in the turn a little hard trying to make the pass, car pushed and he hit Biff. I know Robby would not drive up the track and wreck his car on the last lap like that, if he was in the 31 he might have, but he has to pay for the cars now.
 
kam said:
why do most posts end up like this? I feel like I'm reading posts from teenaged girls.

I think R. Gordon was just being himself and driving too hardand stupid, from what I saw.
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agreed. If you want to see flaming, read the email I sent to Mr. Despain.

my email said:
Today's NBC broadcast of the Nascar race was absolutely horrid. There is a crash on the backstretch on the last lap, and rather than show replays, they show 5 minutes of burnouts and talk about the plane crash. Hey, NBC, That was a few years ago. Enough with it. Sometimes I wonder if whoever it is that is at the controls for NBC (and even fox sometimes) graduated high school.

TONY STEWART IS NOT A MORON! Yes what he did at pocono is stupid. Things like that should be settled outside the racecars. But he had absolutely nothing to do with anything that happened today. Kahne just had the air taken off his spoiler (One reason I can't wait fot the CoT) while trying to pass on the inside of Tony.

Why doesn't road america have fencing? Among other things, I would like to think any/all racing facilities of any kind where the vehicles are over 35 MPH should have fencing. One of the last things we need are deer going on the track. Imagine if it was a cow!

Nascar is becoming a joke. We all know and nascar knows we all know that there aint any debris on the track. If there is, i'd like to see it, ok TV crews?
What's with this rule book? Isn't the whole point of racing to try and outsmart your competition, mentally or otherwise? I think the Team cap idea is a good thing, Id like to see more Robby Gordons performing like he did today (until that pit stop when he fell to 28th). And Kudos to Boris Said and crew. They're going great for having essentially no funding and a still learning driver.

Why can't IRL and Champ car just merge already? Who cares about needing to commonize the two? I say just get them to reletively close power levels, and run them in a sports car type format- a 20 something car indy class and a 20 something car champ car class.

Kudos to the R&D center for nascar. How Kahne was able to walk out of his car unassisted is beyond me. He completely missed the SAFER barrier, the car got airborn, and yet he just pops the net and climbs out. I'd like to see the numbers from that black box. Between pocono I, kentucky, and indy, nascar has had their fair share of high G-force impacts.
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well maj.. delete the post if you want..because i wont. i will not stand iddle when someone is calling me names
 
I think the plane crash deal today, was just talking about the strugles that HMS and Ricky have seen over the past year and 1/2.

To this day, some people in my area wont talk about it, because one of the guys killed was a former Ky state cop, and was from Benton. KY.

They still talk about Dale Sr, Alan K, and Davey also.
 
I not sure why the announcers were going on about it. We know all know the story by now.

I'm amazed that Kahne was able to walk away from that crash. The front end of the car looked like it hit at a near right angle to the wall.

Biffle should know better by now to drive around #7 like that and who knows what went on between them during the race.
 
Just read a report this morning with an interview of Kasey. Seems that he is taking all the credit for spinning out, saying that Tony was only racing him.

I do believe that Kasey is getting a bit of his over-eagerness that plaqued him for a couple of years back. Wanting to do better than he can, he takes a little more chances and that's getting him in trouble again. I think that now he may be forced to continue that trend, which in the long run, just might keep him out of the chase this year, but that is something that he needs to think hard and long about. Earlier this year, his patience showed and the first third of the season was very good for him. With some bad luck, his fault and others, that trend has gone away. Now he needs to just race his race and forget about the points. They will come and if others can have bad luck, then he will be back into the chase. If not, there's always next year.
 
I don't know what he Fuss has been. You could see that kahne was below the line on the apron, and when he came back up the track he wiggled and lost it.
 
Bucky Badger said:
I don't know what he Fuss has been. You could see that kahne was below the line on the apron, and when he came back up the track he wiggled and lost it.
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The fuss was about the lack of replays, lack of coverage of the incident post race, and the poor coverage in general of NBC.
 
I think kahne did do a good job of not taking stewart out. He could have very easily used Tony's car to save his.
 
I do believe that Kasey is getting a bit of his over-eagerness that plaqued him for a couple of years back. Wanting to do better than he can, he takes a little more chances and that's getting him in trouble again. I think that now he may be forced to continue that trend, which in the long run, just might keep him out of the chase this year, but that is something that he needs to think hard and long about. Earlier this year, his patience showed and the first third of the season was very good for him. With some bad luck, his fault and others, that trend has gone away. Now he needs to just race his race and forget about the points. They will come and if others can have bad luck, then he will be back into the chase. If not, there's always next year.
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You got that right Im not sure what was going through Kaseys mind!! He had a solid 9th place in the race but screwed it up trying to pass Tony. What was he thinking!!! He went from 9th to 36th place with 3/4 of a lap to go trying to move up 1 spot!! :mad:

Can you say repeat of 2005! Now hes in 11th in points. I was at the track and he was pretty upset the whole day of the track more worried about other drivers them himself. He didnt like the tires, wedge adjustment, air pressue. He was cussing like a sailor I couldnt beleieve it. He sayed in the top 10 most of the race but was acting like he was running in the back of the field.
 
Mopardh9 said:
The fuss was about the lack of replays, lack of coverage of the incident post race, and the poor coverage in general of NBC.
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Well, I was plenty of replays...........TIVO...LOL
 
Brickyard_400 said:
You got that right Im not sure what was going through Kaseys mind!! He had a solid 9th place in the race but screwed it up trying to pass Tony. What was he thinking!!! He went from 9th to 36th place with 3/4 of a lap to go trying to move up 1 spot!! :mad:

Can you say repeat of 2005! Now hes in 11th in points. I was at the track and he was pretty upset the whole day of the track more worried about other drivers them himself. He didnt like the tires, wedge adjustment, air pressue. He was cussing like a sailor I couldnt beleieve it. He sayed in the top 10 most of the race but was acting like he was running in the back of the field.
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Actually, he's pretty much like that for every race. I listen to him through Track Pass at NASCAR.com and I'd say that I seldom hear him say that he likes the car. When he lost it, he was finally moving forward in the race and I think that he just wanted to get as much as he could. I do know that he really doesn't like to pass some individuals on the track. And Tony is one of them.
 
I'd say that there are more than a few drivers that don't like passing Smoke on the track or in the garage! :rolleyes:
 
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