What Happens First: Jeff Gordon Retires or Roush-Fenway Closes?

[ToyYoda]

With 3M jumping the RFR ship to sponsor Jeff Gordon next year, it got me to thinking: will Jeff actually be around longer than RFR? losing 3M is a big blow to that organization, so I think Jeff will actually outlast RFR at this point.

 

[KahneFan]

Jeff Gordon will retire way before Roush closes shop. It's not like Roush has ZERO sponsorships, or Jack is hurting for money. They'll scale back to two cars or cut back on Nationwide before they close down.

 

[dpkimmel2001]

How do we know that Roush doesn't already have a sponsor lined up for Biffle? Yeah, I was able to type that with a straight face.

 

[FLRacingFan]

RFR will toil in obscurity for several years like Yates Racing before it closes or merges with another team. I imagine Gordon will be done by then.

 

[ToyYoda]

RFR will toil in obscurity for several years like Yates Racing before it closes or merges with another team. I imagine Gordon will be done by then.

I think RFR's days are numbered, but it's a matter of whether it's like the Yates example, where they floundered for 3 or 4 years before merging with another team, or if it's like the Junior Johnson example, a team that won 3 races in 1994 but was out of business by the end of 1995. Somewhere in the middle would be my guess.

 

[dpkimmel2001]

@nateryan

Roush Fenway Racing president. RT @NewmarkRFR We have some exciting '15 partnership announcements for No. 16 in the next few weeks.

 

[Bobw]

Bet Biff is gone at the end of his current contract.

 

[MRM]

Bet Biff is gone at the end of his current contract.

He just signed a new extension last week.

 

[DanicaFreak]

"cat in the hat" is a big name .. he wont go quietly into that good night.

 

[The Nature Boy]

If Fenway Sports Group pulls out, they might be in big trouble.

 

[Bobw]

The extension only takes him thru the 2016 season.

 

[3wideinturn1]

Well Penske could use a decent test team, just saying.

 

[ChexOrWrex]

@nateryan

Roush Fenway Racing president. RT @NewmarkRFR We have some exciting '15 partnership announcements for No. 16 in the next few weeks.

Exactly. RFR aint goin nowhere.

Jeff will retire long before RFR locks the doors for the final time.

 

[dpkimmel2001]

Exactly. RFR aint goin nowhere.

Jeff will retire long before RFR locks the doors for the final time.

Yep.

 

[Zerkfitting]

I don't know how long or how much Jack will stay active in the organization but I figure the Roush organization is planning for the future. One example of how an organization changed from an iconic organization to the current one is Petty Motorsports.

 

[3wideinturn1]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall during a sales team meeting at Roush. They have sh*t the bed so hard the past few years, it's becoming comical.

*Jack walks into room, looks around and says* "Well guys, how'd we do this week?"... "We lost another major sponsor, to match our loss of another major driver"..."Symmetry boys, it's the wave of the future"

 

[dpkimmel2001]

I don't know how long or how much Jack will stay active in the organization but I figure the Roush organization is planning for the future. One example of how an organization changed from an iconic organization to the current one is Petty Motorsports.

The new Chase format put Petty back on the map. Otherwise they'd be an afterthought. They need to thank Brian.

 

[The Nature Boy]

The new Chase format put Petty back on the map. Otherwise they'd be an afterthought. They need to thank Brian.

Petty hadn't won a race since 2001 before now.

He needs to thank God for rain.

 

[ToyYoda]

@nateryan

Roush Fenway Racing president. RT @NewmarkRFR We have some exciting '15 partnership announcements for No. 16 in the next few weeks.

Hopefully it's enough to cover the loss of 3M. They're on Biffle's car for 29 races this year, that's a lot to replace.

 

[FLRacingFan]

Hopefully it's enough to cover the loss of 3M. They're on Biffle's car for 29 races this year, that's a lot to replace.

Exactly, no one wants to see less competition.

Their development program is pretty barren too. After Biffle retires and if Stenhouse and Bayne don't pan out (likely scenario) then they really only have Chris Buescher to look towards, and they can't find sponsorship for him either.

 

[3wideinturn1]

Petty hadn't won a race since 2001 before now.

He needs to thank God for rain.

I believe Ambrose did have back to back wins at the Glen for him, no?

 

[MRM]

Funny how Roush used to take sponsors from other teams, now they're taking them from him.

 

[FenderBumper]

What if Jeff leaves HMS and goes to RFR?

Yet another giant straight face.

 

[FenderBumper]

Petty hadn't won a race since 2001 before now.

He needs to thank God for rain.

Why wouldn't he thank you, nature boy?

 

[ToyYoda]

I believe Ambrose did have back to back wins at the Glen for him, no?

Yeah, and 1999 was actually his last win before that.

 

[WhiningSmoke]

Yeah, and 1999 was actually his last win before that.

Kasey Kahne had 2 wins for them back in 2009 I think.

 

[ToyYoda]

Kasey Kahne had 2 wins for them back in 2009 I think.

Oh yeah, I couldn't remember if the Evernham-Petty merger had taken place by then but I believe it had.

 

[hawg dawg]

With 3M jumping the RFR ship to sponsor Jeff Gordon next year, it got me to thinking: will Jeff actually be around longer than RFR? losing 3M is a big blow to that organization, so I think Jeff will actually outlast RFR at this point.

maybe john henry eases jack out as head honcho......teams up w/ penske in hms/shr biz model ?
24 will become 9 before rfr is gone.

 

[JEB]

Jeff will be winning races into his 60's.

I can hear the announcer now, "Jeff Gordon wins the 1st, 10th, 20th, and now 40th Brickyard 400!"




Ok maybe not that long

 

[Marcingak]

Yeah, and 1999 was actually his last win before that.

Yeah, the #43 car hadn't won since 1999, until this year.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Oh yeah, I couldn't remember if the Evernham-Petty merger had taken place by then but I believe it had.

For some reason, it's difficult for me to associate the 9 with Richard Petty. The Ambrose/Kahne wins completely slipped my mind.

 

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If Fenway Sports Group pulls out, they might be in big trouble.

I sure would like to hear someone like "Allenbaba" comment on this . To an outsider like me , I haven't seen a big upturn in Roush since the deal with Fenway , Maybe it has been a great success . I don't see it , but it might . I really don't know if Fenway is a part of the solution or a part of the problem . Anybody have any insight ?

 

[The Nature Boy]

I'd call the Fenway deal largely a failure and here's why:

John Henry never uses his media outlets to promote his NASCAR venture. Fenway owns 80% of NESN but you never really see NASCAR covered at all on there. Outside of northern New England, you never see NASCAR promoted in the region period. This could've been a good chance to expose NASCAR to New England but Fenway hasn't capitalized. Fenway Park SHOULD have ads for NASCAR, RFR and the drivers (in some capacity). Red Sox fans are loyal to Fenway so you could've converted a few of them into RFR fans.

If Roush were smart, he would've tried to sell John Henry on paying big bucks to sign and sponsor the only native New Englander in the field (Joey Logano) so fans from the region have a driver on what is essentially their home team.

In fact, I have the NESN app on my phone and there are tabs for the Bruins, Red Sox and Patriots but none for NASCAR. RFR is essentially a sister org to NESN but gets no coverage from them.

I assume they've been a financial help though and that's important to them now.

 

[PushRodV8]

Jeff Gordon will retire way before Roush closes shop. It's not like Roush has ZERO sponsorships, or Jack is hurting for money. They'll scale back to two cars or cut back on Nationwide before they close down.

 

[DUN24]

I sure would like to hear someone like "Allenbaba" comment on this . To an outsider like me , I haven't seen a big upturn in Roush since the deal with Fenway , Maybe it has been a great success . I don't see it , but it might . I really don't know if Fenway is a part of the solution or a part of the problem . Anybody have any insight ?

exactly! Roush Racing was a cornerstone before that merger...

 

[pudge]

no way Jack just fades away

 

[Speedbowl14]

I'd call the Fenway deal largely a failure and here's why:

John Henry never uses his media outlets to promote his NASCAR venture. Fenway owns 80% of NESN but you never really see NASCAR covered at all on there. Outside of northern New England, you never see NASCAR promoted in the region period. This could've been a good chance to expose NASCAR to New England but Fenway hasn't capitalized. Fenway Park SHOULD have ads for NASCAR, RFR and the drivers (in some capacity). Red Sox fans are loyal to Fenway so you could've converted a few of them into RFR fans.

If Roush were smart, he would've tried to sell John Henry on paying big bucks to sign and sponsor the only native New Englander in the field (Joey Logano) so fans from the region have a driver on what is essentially their home team.

In fact, I have the NESN app on my phone and there are tabs for the Bruins, Red Sox and Patriots but none for NASCAR. RFR is essentially a sister org to NESN but gets no coverage from them.

I assume they've been a financial help though and that's important to them now.

Woah, woah, woah... that's the same Fenway?!

7 years a Nascar fan. 5 years a baseball fan. Polock forever

 

[StandOnIt]

no way Jack just fades away

It will be interesting to see what happens, love the "experts" fortune telling. I don't have a clue myself, but I think they will both be around next year, good Lord willing and if the creek don't rise

 

[pudge]

wonder how Ford likes the future of Jack's stable..i'm sure they still have love from Trevor's 500 win but what else can they be happy about. i feel like Jack's cars should get better, but don't think he will have a driver to prove how good they are capable of being. Newman could end up at Roush after Ty moves up, but that want change anything either.

 

[beantownkid10]

Here's to hoping TBayne proves everyone wrong like I think he will.