What if all four wreck?

It would take a bizzare event, almost impossible in a normal race, but even more impossible for this weeks gimmick.
I believe the other 36 teams are warned they had better keep some distance and concentrate on trying to finish no better than 5th.
The top 4 probably get a lot more grays through tech as well
So at least 3 of the top 4 will be up front all day, maybe all 4 of them.
 
I imagine we'd all be much more comfortable if 4 drivers contending for a classic points championship at the last race all wrecked.

I know I would be. :rolleyes:
 
This would be hilarious. NBC would be forced to actually cover the race instead of the points every two seconds. Actually, they are so obsessed with the Chase that they would probably cover the race in a small box and focus on what hammer Logano was using on his car.
 
aunty dive said:
I imagine we'd all be much more comfortable if 4 drivers contending for a classic points championship at the last race all wrecked.

I know I would be. :rolleyes:
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Wouldn't matter . The championship was not about one single race . It was an acknowledgement of excellence over an entire season . This race is Nascar's version of a wrestling cage match . More about the hype than the results .
 
It ain’t the destination, it’s the journey…

Or somethin'.....
 
ted@economy said:
Wouldn't matter . The championship was not about one single race . It was an acknowledgement of excellence over an entire season . This race is Nascar's version of a wrestling cage match . More about the hype than the results .
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12 years of complaints. No result.
 
Yes. Bernie Ecclestone once suggested that Formula 1 tracks install sprinklers to keep surfaces wet enough to spark up the show.

Chitwood is an amateur.
 
aunty dive said:
12 years of complaints. No result.
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Exactly. And last month there was all sorts of b!tching about the designated hitter rule, adopted by MLB in 1973. So I guess the complaints about this will carry on for a while longer.
 
aunty dive said:
12 years of complaints. No result.
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Can you clarify what your point actually is? Do you dislike complaints and criticism generally? Or is it that in your opinion these complaints won't work or be heard, and therefore you think they should be discouraged? I can see the latter point of view in the extreme sense. I've advised others to not waste their time trying to change something that won't ever change. I've used the analogy that I wouldn't ever protest a hurricane that's threatening to destroy my house. I'd just recognize reality and deal with the consequences.

However, it's not actually true that "12 years of complaints" have yielded no result. Some complained when Dale Jr. and Jeff Gordon missed the Chase. The Chase field was expanded. Some complained that the format didn't reward those who won multiple races but didn't make the top twelve in points (Jamie McMurray). Wild cards were added to reward those who won the most races. Some complained (I guess someone did, somewhere) that the points system was too complicated and hard to follow. A simplified 43-1 version was implemented. Some complained that winning still wasn't being rewarded enough, so the current "win and you're in" system was devised. Recently some have complained that the regular season points leader isn't being rewarded enough, and byes and bonus points are being considered for that.

NASCAR has made their willingness to change the format extremely apparent. It has been changed in some way more years than not. Someday they may very well scrap the Chase entirely under different leadership. To believe otherwise seems naive given this history. So I don't think it's accurate to say that complaining is pointless, and I also think discussion is better when people are free to voice their honest opinions, good or bad.
 
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Blaze88 said:
This will probably happen once they move the final race to Talladega one day. That way NASCAR can really create drama for the final 4.
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I could actually see them trying that.

"Restrictor plate races get good ratings. We should try on for the season finale!"
 
gnomesayin said:
Can you clarify what your point actually is? Do you dislike complaints and criticism generally? Or is it that in your opinion these complaints won't work or be heard, and therefore you think they should be discouraged? I can see the latter point of view in the extreme sense. I've advised others to not waste their time trying to change something that won't ever change. I've used the analogy that I wouldn't ever protest a hurricane that's threatening to destroy my house. I'd just recognize reality and deal with the consequences.
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I think you understand what I meant. No, generally I'm fine with complaints and criticism. I find the repetitious nature of these particular objections to the method in use to determine the champion somewhat offputting. Sometimes it seems we complain rather more than we discuss the actual racing, the cars and the people who drive them. I'm encouraged by your efforts to encourage others to not waste their time trying to effect change where they have no ability to do so. Your hurricane analogy indicates your firm grip on reality.

gnomesayin said:
However, it's not actually true that "12 years of complaints" have yielded no result. Some complained when Dale Jr. and Jeff Gordon missed the Chase. The Chase field was expanded. Some complained that the format didn't reward those who won multiple races but didn't make the top twelve in points (Jamie McMurray). Wild cards were added to reward those who won the most races. Some complained (I guess someone did, somewhere) that the points system was too complicated and hard to follow. A simplified 43-1 version was implemented. Some complained that winning still wasn't being rewarded enough, so the current "win and you're in" system was devised. Recently some have complained that the regular season points leader isn't being rewarded enough, and byes and bonus points are being considered for that.
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These are all tweaks. The Chase remains a playoff format in stark contrast to what came before.

gnomesayin said:
NASCAR has made their willingness to change the format extremely apparent. It has been changed in some way more years than not. Someday they may very well scrap the Chase entirely under different leadership. To believe otherwise seems naive given this history. So I don't think it's accurate to say that complaining is pointless, and I also think discussion is better when people are free to voice their honest opinions, good or bad.
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I contend that NASCAR will never return to the simpler time. It's possible that I'm being naive. I doubt it. We will see. Freedom of speech and honest opinions are fundamental here and pretty well everywhere else in the civilized world. For that reason, I chose to make that post.

Have a pleasant afternoon.
 
aunty dive said:
Have a pleasant afternoon.
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You as well. I think you provided a good response, and I got a chuckle also.

The only stuff I'll push back on for now is that I don't view the Chase overhaul of 2014 as a tweak, and I think it indicates a willingness to make wholesale changes. LewtheShoe's comparison to bickering over the DH rule in baseball, which I'm also fine with, would only be apt if MLB had changed how the DH is used umpteen times since instituting it.
 
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I predict the same result as the last two years: three will have a good race, one will struggle.
 
I just hope Brad K. wins as this format is garbage and I don't care who wins of the four. The Chase wasn't nearly as bad when one single race didn't determine the champ. Paper champions.
 
If this happened, seeing how the four Chase drivers couldn't get it done, it should revert back to the highest placing NonChase driver.,
 
I hope to god larson or Elliott or a non chaser has the most dominant car in the history of mankind, just to watch NASCAR desperately try to manipulate the race and make sure the chasers are battling for the win at the end. Oh wait!! That happened the past 2 years!
 
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