What's Tony's Deal?

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Sure, Tony lead most of the race and got blocked but who didn't, thats plate racing. Then he acted surprised that the 48 team was upset? He was definitely in the wrong when he hit Jimmy but it did add some excitement. :lurk:
 
Yeah, he probably was in the wrong, but prima dona Jimmy seems to think that it's their job to block and that is one of the major things, as is bump drafting, that all of NASCAR has been complaining about. It's one thing to block at tracks like Martinsville or Bristol, but quite another at any superspeedway, especially a plate race. It was racing and that's really all there was to it. Emotions will run wild during and right after the race, but once things have settled down, Tony will forget about it and Jimmy will once again expect everyone to move over and let him drive through to the win.

What I'd really like to hear from Tony was the deal supposedly set up by Jr in that he told him to stay at the bottom and he'd help. Said that his car wouldn't run well up top and yet that's where he went to pass Tony and that cost Tony not only the race, but if not that, at least a better position. Those last couple of laps are everyone for himself.
 
Yep, Jr did not seem to hold up his end of the agreement. Maybe if they all had CBs in their cars the communication would be better. I am not much into this team mate stuff. Always liked it when the 3 treated Skinner like he wasn't there.

If you don't have 2 strong cars in the stable then you can about give up on winning a plate race.
 
I would say Tony's deal is that he's a race car driver. :) He had a very difficult position to defend in the final few laps........the leader is almost never the place to be at almost any track for the last lap if you have some fast cars behind you. Especially at a plate track. I didn't think Tony was surprised at all that Jimmie's team was upset with him.....I'm pretty sure he knew darned well they were. :) But he was also a little upset with them. Both drivers were driving for everything they are worth and when that happens you inevitably get a little beatin' and bangin'........who got into who? :D I saw Tony caught in the middle and it looked to me like he got loose and wiggled into Jimmie.......I really doubt that was intentional (after all that was a wreck that, for some miracle, did not develop completely). A racing thing........quite obviously. And I really have to hand it to Tony......he did himself quite well with that post race interview!! :D I'm sure he was every bite as upset as he has been in the past when he gets edged out of win, yet he put on a smile and even offered a little humor for us to digest!!

But, you're right..........that did add some excitement to the finish of yesterday's race!!!!
 
As long as you know how to do a restart, up front ain't a bad place.


I guess if you know you are gona get what you give out then in the end it won't matter. But at least you better know that up front.
 
Tony could have used the excuse Harvick did and say he could'nt get slowed up. Thats happens all the time. He probably regrets not taking him out? I am always amazed at how long a memory these guys have which will cause problems down the line but if you keep up with the history, it makes the racing more interesting for sure.
 
Tony's pretty well versed at restarts. :) But, then, so is Jeff Gordon. And Jr's not bad either! :D If those guys behind you are predictable then you can beat them everytime on a restart........but, they ain't!!! :beerbang:
 
well, I knwo what Tony was upset about.

look before the exit of turn 4... back at the entrance to turn 3.

Jimmie was up top... going into the turn... tony was behind him...

As we all know... going into the turn.... there's room up top.

Tony went to move up top.. (Jimmie was then in the middle of the track)

As Tony got his nose JUST passed Jimmies bumper, Jimmie moved up to block.

they touched... Tony backed off.. and that's how he ended up inside of Jimmie come'n OUT of turn 4.

then that's when they touched and bobbled and almost wrecked.

it all started with a block, thrown by Jimmie in the entrance /middle of the turn.
 
That's pretty much what I saw too, Alverez. Only I didn't see that Tony was all that upset..........no more so than Kurt Busch or Jr anyway. :)
 
buckaroo said:
Tony will forget about it and Jimmy will once again expect everyone to move over and let him drive through to the win.
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:rolleyes: Nonsense.

It's king Stewart that people should not dare to block.
 
buckaroo said:
Yeah, he probably was in the wrong, but prima dona Jimmy seems to think that it's their job to block and that is one of the major things, as is bump drafting, that all of NASCAR has been complaining about. It's one thing to block at tracks like Martinsville or Bristol, but quite another at any superspeedway, especially a plate race. It was racing and that's really all there was to it. Emotions will run wild during and right after the race, but once things have settled down, Tony will forget about it and Jimmy will once again expect everyone to move over and let him drive through to the win.

What I'd really like to hear from Tony was the deal supposedly set up by Jr in that he told him to stay at the bottom and he'd help. Said that his car wouldn't run well up top and yet that's where he went to pass Tony and that cost Tony not only the race, but if not that, at least a better position. Those last couple of laps are everyone for himself.
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Prima Donna..................whatever. :rolleyes:
 
Don't get me wrong here Maj........but Jimmie does come across that way sometimes!! :)

But, then so does Jeff, Kurt, Rusty, Kurt, Jamie, Ryan........hell, even Tony!! Heaven forbid, I think Jr comes across that way too!! :rolleyes: I've even heard Mark do the prima donna thing on occassion!! :D I think they all do it....nothing to be upset about!! Just the nature of the people that drive stock cars in the highest division in NASCAR!! :beerbang: :beerbang:
 
Maj, sorry if I said something about your guy that you didn't like. We all have our favs and some like em, and some don't. I liked Jimmy when he was a Busch driver and thought that he would be someone that I could root for in the Cup series, but for whatever reason, he's struck me as a guy who thinks that when he's got the car to beat, everyone should just move over and let him win. I know that isn't what he really believes, but that's the way he struck me once and it's stuck with me. Jimmy has become quickly a force to reckon with and as so, he gets a lot of press and so on. When any of the back markers are involved in controversy, very little can be read about what they think. But, when any of the top drivers are involved, they will get mikes in their faces and their emotions can be way off and they can say things that are taken the wrong way. When Jimmy is involved with a wreck, he always seems to think that it's the other guys fault, no matter what. Yeah, they all seem to think that way from time to time, but I've seen plenty say that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and even Tony, even if he's cussing behind his breath, will say from time to time that he's wrong. The only time that I've ever heard Jimmy say that he might have been wrong is when he did the wrecking. I just think that he can dish it out but can't take it. It's just my opinion, even if it's wrong.
 
Uh, what did you call what Mikey has been expected to do in prior plate races - blocking. It's not all just about pushing your partner. Hell, Earnhardt lost his life blocking for Mikey and Lil'E, rather than going for the win himself. I think your dislike for JJ has nothing to do with his driving style but more with who he is aligned with.
 
Good or Bad, blocking and when and who you block is a part of plate racing as well as some other forms, i.e. F1. At the short tracks however its not because everybody knows the price to be paid.

I have never been much into personalities but without Hendrick and the 24 I don't think Jimmi would be where he is today but you can say that about a lot of them including Jr.
 
barelypure said:
Uh, what did you call what Mikey has been expected to do in prior plate races - blocking. It's not all just about pushing your partner. Hell, Earnhardt lost his life blocking for Mikey and Lil'E, rather than going for the win himself. I think your dislike for JJ has nothing to do with his driving style but more with who he is aligned with.
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I'm assuming you are talking to me. I know what happened to DE. I was there when it happened. Also, my dislike for JJ has nothing to do with JG as I'm a fan of his. My dislike for JJ comes from his actions that I found to be "prima donna" like. Blocking has been a tactic that I've come to abhor and the death of DE only solidified that for me. I know for a fact that Daytona doesn't like the tactic either but how the hell can you ban it? Now bump drafting has become something that Daytona is trying to deal with as well, but again, how can you deal with it when it becomes a normal action on the track? As for JJ again, I will agree that Jimmie is a very talented driver and is in a very good car and might very well win a championship. Who knows. However, as to the later, who would have ever thought that Mark Martin would get this far without a title under his belt? (I'm talking Cup title)

Jimmie Johnson fans, you are going to have to get used to hearing from us "anti Johnson" fans. But one thing that should give you a smile, if he wasn't a factor, no one would even talk about him. Jimmie's good, maybe even great, but I don't like him. Now, isn't there someone out there that you don't like? :)
 
Buck, I know what you are talking about with JJ's mouth sometimes.........he does come across with a "holier than thou" attitude. Or that prima donna thing. I say it's more in line with whinning........and they all do it on occasion. Some more than others and, unfortunately, JJ seems to one of the "more than others". :) I don't "like" him much either, I guess........but that sounds more harsh than it really is. I like to think of it as JJ (and a few others) are just not all that high on my favorites list. But, like you, I'm honest enough to tell you why........they are a threat to the drivers that are higher on that list. Especially the one at the top of my list!!! :D I used to be that way with Jeff Gordon. But then Cutie came along and decided she was in love with him. :p I had to change my tune a little........now I have JJ to have as my "villain" to replace my old villain!! It's all in fun...........I don't dislike any driver on the circuit. But, that don't carry over to owners!! :D :beerbang:
 
damn, i didnt think it was that big of a deal, i know tony could have passed him and tony shouldnt have even been there if dale jr would have helped him. its how all the races are, who knows jarrett could have led every lap if he didnt get shoved out of the way or if martin would have got in front of gordon other then letting him by, martin could have been in victory lane. so i guess im tryin to say its a big race, deal with it.
 
Tony bowed his head
Because he knew that he'd been beat
And he laid that Orange car
On the ground at Jeffie's feet

Jeffie said "Tony, just come on back
If you ever want to try again
But I told you once, you son of a b****
I'm the best that's ever been"

:) :) :) :)
 
oh man, I coudl SO turn that song around with nwer words to follow that with the "Now john rosin up your bow, adn play your fiddle hard" part... but, I've not been around long enuff to push that many buttons. LOL

So... I digress..
 
The song lyrics were all in "jest". I was going to use Jr's name instead of Tony's but I thought the Tony fans may have a better sense of humor. :):):)
 
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