FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Was it good, hard short track racing or were Ricky and Brad racing too hard?
What's your take on the action at LORP last night?
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FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I really can't believe all the fuss over this one. Running a guy up the track is part of the game, and both drivers were doing it. Ricky Cravens comment that Brad has no conscience was real ignorant, and the look of disapproval on Rusty's face said it all.
On the restart with 5 to go, Ricky chose the low line but was running Brad to the top of the track. When Ricky slid way up and made contact with Brad, he might have gotten spun by a different driver. Brad backed off and made a nice cross over move and returned the favor.
I looked at position on the track for both incidents. Ricky had his right wheels on the high hashmark when he hit Brad, which is well out of the low line. Brad had his wheels below the low hash marks AND had the lead when Ricky came down and tried to force Brad even lower.
The last restart, it's clear that the 30 gets into the back of the 22, and that slides him up a little into Ricky, resulting in slight contact. But Brad had his RIGHT wheels well below the LOW hash marks and Ricky comes way down on Brad. When you don't leave any room, there is going to be contact.
This was a classic short track battle for racing room, and it resulted in slight contact both times. Just like it always does at these tracks.
I know Ricky was mad, but I give him credit for not giving into his crew chief when he was yelling for Ricky to wreck Brad. He also handled the post race real well.
On the restart with 5 to go, Ricky chose the low line but was running Brad to the top of the track. When Ricky slid way up and made contact with Brad, he might have gotten spun by a different driver. Brad backed off and made a nice cross over move and returned the favor.
I looked at position on the track for both incidents. Ricky had his right wheels on the high hashmark when he hit Brad, which is well out of the low line. Brad had his wheels below the low hash marks AND had the lead when Ricky came down and tried to force Brad even lower.
The last restart, it's clear that the 30 gets into the back of the 22, and that slides him up a little into Ricky, resulting in slight contact. But Brad had his RIGHT wheels well below the LOW hash marks and Ricky comes way down on Brad. When you don't leave any room, there is going to be contact.
This was a classic short track battle for racing room, and it resulted in slight contact both times. Just like it always does at these tracks.
I know Ricky was mad, but I give him credit for not giving into his crew chief when he was yelling for Ricky to wreck Brad. He also handled the post race real well.
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chromehorn
Guest
I don't know about you guys but thats the kind of racing I like to see, I think it was just hard racing.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
It's not going to be one that will stand out years down the road but good short track racing none the less. Too bad that it has to go. 
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Agreed. I think it's what stock car racing is all about. That's why they have fenders and bumpers. This 'don't touch me' crap started when NASCAR put the tire shredding splitter on these cars. NASCAR inc is WAY to obsessed with keeping speeds up and being more like open wheel.
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Mopardh9
Guest
I wasn't home to watch the race sounds like I missed a good one. It's too bad that this track won't host the Nationwide or Trucks again, damn shame.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
@StenhouseJrRicky Stenhouse Jr on twitter.
After thinking about doin something different I need better restarts...and if I was @keselowski I woulda done the same thing.
Looks like pole voters got it right. Much respect to Ricky.
After thinking about doin something different I need better restarts...and if I was @keselowski I woulda done the same thing.
Looks like pole voters got it right. Much respect to Ricky.
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PettyBlue
Guest
There's another word for somone who "races too hard"...Loser!
Whizzer
Gig'em
Short track racing!
WOW! An opportunity to pass one of my favorite memories!
Back in the day - circa 1958 - I raced at a small dirt track near Honesdale, Pennsylvania. In this particular race. The race was 25 laps and I started in the middle of a pack of fifteen or sixteen cars and worked my way to the second position by lap 20 with one of the regular season winners in first. The last 5 laps we battled side by side and going into the fourth turn on the last lap, I drove in hard, got along side and slid up taking him to the soft stuff on the top.He lost good traction and I won that race.
After the race was over, "Benny" approached me in the pits and he was ticked! I figured I was in for a thumping as I was 5' 5" and weighed about 110 lbs and "Benny" about 6' tall weighing about 180. As he stood there towering over me, he angrily asked me if I deliberately ran him up the track. I told him I was trying hard for the win and got into the corner too hot. Benny didn't like it much, but by this time nearly all in the pits had gathered around. I'm not sure if they were looking to see a fight or were there to assist me, but they made it clear they felt it nothing more than Saturday night short track racing. "Benny" walked away, but the next week, it was as if nothing happened and I was waiting for payback. But it never came because my career as a race car driver ended several weeks later when the current starter walked off the job. I sold the race car and took the job as starter.
WOW! An opportunity to pass one of my favorite memories!
Back in the day - circa 1958 - I raced at a small dirt track near Honesdale, Pennsylvania. In this particular race. The race was 25 laps and I started in the middle of a pack of fifteen or sixteen cars and worked my way to the second position by lap 20 with one of the regular season winners in first. The last 5 laps we battled side by side and going into the fourth turn on the last lap, I drove in hard, got along side and slid up taking him to the soft stuff on the top.He lost good traction and I won that race.
After the race was over, "Benny" approached me in the pits and he was ticked! I figured I was in for a thumping as I was 5' 5" and weighed about 110 lbs and "Benny" about 6' tall weighing about 180. As he stood there towering over me, he angrily asked me if I deliberately ran him up the track. I told him I was trying hard for the win and got into the corner too hot. Benny didn't like it much, but by this time nearly all in the pits had gathered around. I'm not sure if they were looking to see a fight or were there to assist me, but they made it clear they felt it nothing more than Saturday night short track racing. "Benny" walked away, but the next week, it was as if nothing happened and I was waiting for payback. But it never came because my career as a race car driver ended several weeks later when the current starter walked off the job. I sold the race car and took the job as starter.
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. has matured a lot.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Great story. Thanks Wiz.
klemmabyna
Team Owner
i think we've said that about several drivers. gonna take a little more time before i become a believer.
be9ak7ts16
Johali Lives
What he said. About time we had some real racing.
Whizzer
Gig'em
I, naturally, would argue that point. Turning back in time to these exciting finishes, Kurt Busch and Ricky Craven bouncing off each other at Bristol; Richard Petty and Cale Yarborough beating on each other for the win at Daytona. Earnhardt wrecking LaBonte at Bristol. One I especially recall was at the Goody's 500 at Martinsville, and the final turn, last lap pass. Dale Earnhardt was in the lead with Terry LaBonte on his bumper and Darrell Waltrip in third on LaBonte's bumper. Waltrip bumped LaBonte in the left rear and when LaBonte corrected, drove into Earnhardt. While they were getting their cars under control, Waltrip slipped by on the inside and won the race.
I don't call any of those guys "losers." I do call them fighting hard for the win, which translated means, typical Saturday night (or Sunday afternoon) racing.