When Toyota enters Cup competition....

When Toyota enters Nextel Cup, what will they do to the competition?

  • They'll blow it away no doubt.

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  • They'll be ahead but not by much

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  • Neutral, the competition will remain the same.

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  • They'll fail miserably

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  • I hope they dont enter at all !

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Well, at Daytona Speedweeks this year, two surprises came... the shortening of our "Super Bowl" The Daytona 500 and the shocking announcement that Toyota will enter Craftsman Truck Competition in 2004 and gradually enter Nextel Cup by 2006.

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Very surprising news to many in the NASCAR community. For one, Toyota has seen large success in the IndyCar Series and Toyota has also seen much success elsewhere in the world of racing. Most GM and Ford company executives and representatives that coordinate with many of the Winston Cup teams today are worried that when Toyota enters, GM and Ford may not match up to the manufacturing giant with their vast amounts of funds.

Most NASCAR purists and traditionalists are worried also. They're worried that Toyota with it's powerful engineering department may get more help from NASCAR to set it up in the Nextel Cup as NASCAR did when reinstating Dodge in the years leading up to Dodge's return year in 2001. There have been accusations that NASCAR had taken out parts from race cars for example, Tony Stewart's at Texas and there have been other accusations that several other teams had given engines or engine specialists to help Toyota. Dodge has terminated it's contract with Bill Davis Racing and withdrawn all funds, Dodge alledges that Bill Davis Racing had been a tool for Toyota so Toyota can find out car building and marketing secrets that Dodge had.

Others are also concerned that this may open the floodgates for more foreign competition to enter. Jack Roush, said that while Toyota will bring new sponsors and generate added interest in stock car racing, America would be better off if NASCAR stayed ``red, white and blue.'' And this is also the same point of view from NASCAR traditionalists and legends like Richard Petty.

When it's all said and done, my opinion coincides with Roush's. Though Toyota will bring added revenue to NASCAR like more merchandise sales and everything else, Toyota most likely will lead a spearhead of foreign manufacturers that'll take part in future NASCAR touring series. It is rumored that Nissan would also like to field a Truck team in 2004 and Volkswagon to enter the sport in marketing means. So, what we once knew as an All American sport will be a battlegrund for manufacturers both foreign and domestic thus, if a foreign competitor were to take the Cup, NASCAR will probably not be that all-american of a sport anymore. What do you think will happen ?
 
No doubt in my mind that they will outspend everyone 2:1, and we all know that money is fuel that runs a racing team....I think you will also see at least one major multicar team more over - don't know who but my money is on Ganassi and Penske and one other high profile team.
 
I would be astonished if they were to "blow away" current manufactures. Yes they took IRL and yes they have engines up to par with BMW in infant years in those series, but the paramerters alow them to do so. I believe their success will be determined by which teams they get. I am intruiged that they are willing to invest so much into pushrod engines. I bet that casting looks out of place at the foundry, hehe.

I for one, welcome any manufacture to nascar. To those who think Toyota is foregin, should travel to Ohio and see the Toyota plant employing thousands of Americans, then they should travel to Mexico and see Fords American vehicles being but together. A companys base doesn't mean a thing.

So, they come in and works their initial kinks out and bam they are "blowing away" the competition. They are serious for sure, are we? we going to answer. But we don't have the funds nate. BS, have you seen the earning reports latley? Step it up Ford, GM, Dodge and bring it on.
 
I think the addition of Toyota (and a couple other manufactures) would tighten the field of competition.

With the addition of more types of cars, the overall number of Fords, Chevy's, etc would decrease, therefore allowing each respective manufacturer to focus on fewer cars to make them more competive.

Therefore, top drivers like Ryan N, Jeff G, Kurt B, and Ricky C. would have less drivers to compete with for funds from their manufacturers....(just picked one of each for example...)

Also, experienced drivers with so-so teams would be able to compete for some of the 'new' spots.

To merge threads -- I doubt Toyota would overlook Dale Jarett as a driver or vica-versa...

With the restrictions that NASCAR has in place for all the vehicles I doubt that one team would be able to come with a car so superior to the others that only Toyota would win...(can of worms I know....)

So it seems to me that it could lead to better racing all around with more competive teams and more money in general coming into the sport.
 
I said Neutral...I can't wait to see If when they do get to the cup series...woops...nextel series, what teams would go to it. I can see BDR and Chip Gannasi Racing going but who else might go...
 
I hope they dont come in Im not a fan of Rice Rockets
 
I don't have problem with Toyota coming into Nascar myself. The way the cars are regulated I don't really think that Toyota will be able to blow anyone away. The foreign part isn't a issue with me. Some foreign cars are built in the US and some US cars are built in other countries.
 
I really don't think Toyota will blow no one away. We will have the same kind of racing we do now.
 
Originally posted by Hurricane495@Jul 18 2003, 09:43 AM
I hope they dont come in Im not a fan of Rice Rockets
How is the Tundra a rice rocket? :huh:


I welcome any new manufactures.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang+Jul 18 2003, 08:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (66mustang @ Jul 18 2003, 08:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Hurricane495@Jul 18 2003, 09:43 AM
I hope they dont come in Im not a fan of Rice Rockets
How is the Tundra a rice rocket? :huh:


I welcome any new manufactures. [/b][/quote]
Im sorry i wasnt talkin about the tundra I thought we were discussing them bring a camry or something into Winston Cup err Nextel Cup.And I am entitled to my opinion :p
 
Originally posted by 66mustang+Jul 18 2003, 08:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (66mustang @ Jul 18 2003, 08:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Hurricane495@Jul 18 2003, 09:43 AM
I hope they dont come in Im not a fan of Rice Rockets
How is the Tundra a rice rocket? :huh:


I welcome any new manufactures. [/b][/quote]
I was wondering the same thing, 66! Glad to see ya! :D

I thought that Rice Rockets were on two wheels! lol B)
 
They ARE bringing the Camry to WC eventually,I would think.Or maybe the Avalon...I dont know for sure.

But I thought the term 'rice rocket' was a negative description for ANY Japanese vehicle..two wheels or four?

Anyway,I own a Tundra and a Taurus both.I say let 'em come.

(Now if only my Tundra didn't 'whine' when you crank it like a '77 plymouth I would be happy!All new Tundra's do that,anybody know why?)
 
Originally posted by majestyx+Jul 19 2003, 07:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (majestyx @ Jul 19 2003, 07:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -66mustang@Jul 18 2003, 08:30 PM
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@Jul 18 2003, 09:43 AM
I hope they dont come in Im not a fan of Rice Rockets

How is the Tundra a rice rocket? :huh:


I welcome any new manufactures.
I was wondering the same thing, 66! Glad to see ya! :D

I thought that Rice Rockets were on two wheels! lol B) [/b][/quote]
I'm sorry, but last time I checked the term "Rice Rockets" is rather detremental and somewhat a bit prejudice towards a large community within the world and a community which is a large part within the United States.

However, I understand your opinions rather clearly, lots of different ones in fact.
 
I have no problem with toyota entering just as I didn't when they entered NHRA.
 
Well Im sorry if I offended anyone i didnt know you all would be this upset and Im sorry for voicing my opinion!
 
Hey, I want you to express your opinion. I just dont want any racial sounding things or anything close to it in this thread, just saying they're probably some people on the forum that maybe sensitive to it.
 
well Im sorry again i feel bad. But let me ask this, what was Toyotas V-8 Production pushrod engines?

Dodge chevy ford and Pontiac have all had one but Has Toyota
 
IMHO, the decal on the front doesn't matter. If Ferrari or VW wants to run in Cup and are approved by Na$ca$h why not? Just RACE dangit! :katsip: :katsip: :kattails: :kattails:
 

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Well, I'm not sure about the V-8 Toyota engine for Nextel Cup, I hear engine specialists from Chevrolet backed teams are helping set up Toyota's engine program. So, we could have some teams from Chevy that probably will switch to Toyota when they invade NASCAR.
 
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