Where is NASCAR headed?

buckaroo

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Much has been said about the loss of attendance and TV audience of the sport, but other than the same old song of the cars are different, not much else has been said to be one of the problems with the sport. As an old race fan from long ago, I have an opinion, and like butts, everyone has one.

Many people, especially from down here in the south (where much of the population erroniously believes that racing started), think that NASCAR is spreading their wings a bit too far. Many of the old tracks that for years were a regular stop for both the Cup cars and the Busch cars are now either closed or are only featuring Saturday night racing. The emphasis for the sport has been to expand, expand and expand even more, even if they can't find the fans to fill the stands. Fifteen years ago, if anyone wanted to build a "NASCAR" track, using the "guarenteed NASCAR race" to help find the funds for the track from the locals, was told by NASCAR that they never gave races to tracks that weren't built, making that proposition a "catch 22" type proposition. But that never stopped NASCAR itself from giving themselves a race at a track that they themselves had yet to build.

Okay, that is water under the bridge, but it was one of the biggest gripes of old fans of the sport. Closing or discontinuing tracks in the southeast was another gripe, especially for season ticket holders. But as said earlier, these are things that have been talked about to no end, and are continuing subjects for many bulletin boards.

Let me now switch gears and add another potential problem or two of NASCAR. First off, and while there is much backing for this one, the addition of Toyota is a big bone of contention for many fans. And, if anyone believes that Toyota will be the only foreign car maker to makes it's way into NASCAR, I've got a big bridge to sell for very cheap. But this is something that has been in the works for a couple of years now and this year marks the year that Toyota wins it's first championship in NASCAR's top three divisions, the truck series. Are we going to see a Nissan or Honda powered truck in the near future? How about a European entrant?

The entry of Toyota into the sport took some time and along with the skepticism, it has weathered the storm and will no doubt do the same in the Busch and Cup series.

But wait, Toyota and whatever might follow isn't the only thing that might be trying to conquer the sport as an outsider. The diviersity programs of many of the top owners is great and is giving drivers of different ethnic groups a shot at the sport, but it also gives drivers from different backgrounds a shot as well. But here's where I think that all of that comes up short with many fans. Foreign drivers. Now before anyone get's their knickers all in a wad, let me try to explain what I see might be a problem.

Why is it fine for some people that NASCAR get's a foreign driver like Marcos Ambrose from Australia, yet when they expand to South America and go for a driver like JPM, they flinch? How about some of the drivers from Mexico? Now before you go off half ****ed with this being a racist thing (something that the libs would surely do) this same thing happened in the open wheel series of USAC back in the 70's with the addition to the Indy 500 to a guy from Italy. What I'm trying to say is this, by trying to become international with the addition of drivers from around the world, is NASCAR going down the same path that USAC/CART/IRL has gone before?

As a fan of racing in all forms, I welcome the best of the best into the series I consider the most exciting, at least at the present, but I believe that I'm of the minority on this. For most of us here, we are a unique bunch that we are very involved in the sport and are as such, a sort of minority in that we are going to be watching the sport no matter. But we are a minority and if the sport of NASCAR is going to continue being where it is now, and they do understand this, they have to continue to appeal to a much broader audience than those of us here at R/F, and that is why I believe they are heading in the direction of ruin, because they only see what is in front of them instead of what and where they've been and forget about what has made them what they are today. I've seen this before and no doubt, I'll see it again, whether in the sport of racing or somewhere else. The bottom line is dollars and that means that a plan has to be made for the future. That doesn't always mean that the direction will be right. I don't believe that Brian France is going in the right direction, but that's just me...and a few hundred thousand other people.
 
I'm with you, buck. IMO, the 'entertainment' factor, the 'trying to be all things to all people', and the money has taken the racing out of the racing.
 
They will be OK until someone else decides to start up a competing series. One that attempts to provide the fans what they want. Not that the new guys will be successful but they will draw enough drivers and fans away that maybe NASCAR will make some changes. That or they die and we go back to regional races as the main form. But, this is going to take quite some time to occur.
 
I posted a thread a while back that in the years to come it's gonna be like baseball...You won't be able to pronounce half the names in nascar.....There won't be any "good ole boys" anymore. and that will be the beginning of the end. Just like INDY..........
 
The announcers can't properly pronounce half the names now.
 
bp, I'm not so sure that this will take all that long, but it might take the powers that be a long time to see it coming. I commend NASCAR for making the sport what it is today, but I also condemn them for what they are doing to it. If the sport survives, they will have to make a lot of changes in the years to come.

Few sports go through total make-overs, and NASCAR is just one of the long line of changing sports. However, there comes a time when the changes go beyond what the fans want, and it's that time when a solution must be decided on that will be welcomed by the fans. I think that Brian France is at that point right now. Sometimes I wonder what his father or grandfather might have done differently.
 
Yeah, but until there is a viable alternative, one that will start to pull the fans away, they are still the only game in town. There are too many race fans for some to walk away and it make a difference.
What was really disappointing was the show on Speed pre-race where Jimmy and Hermie were asking Brian France the "hard" questions. That he undoubtedly knew were coming. And, then they kiss up at the end. That was a poor showing.
We don't have anyone of note on a national scene really asking the hard questions. Only then will someone at the top sit up and take notice and maybe, just maybe, change something that will benefit the fans.
 
bp, you have some great points there, but for the last part, I don't think that B France really cares what some fans think. What he is interested in is getting the biggest audience that he can, and he doesn't care if they are newbies or not. And yes, as long as he can find more fans, even if he begins to lose fans more than he gains them, it'll take a long time before the well goes dry.

NASCAR has a lot of power over the press, and if you just think back when ESPN lost their contract with NASCAR, the powers that be even kept them from reporting inside the track area. And I know of several cases when a reporter has been barred from a track for various reasons and wasn't able to come back for a week or so. These reporters know what side of their bread is buttered, and so it's not at all unexpected that they don't make waves. Those that would ask those hard questions just aren't given an audience with the big guys to ask those questions. As a consequence, it's only after a lot has been written that questions can be asked and then the answeres have been thought out and answered the way they want them to be answered.
 
And, now ESPN has the NASCAR contract back. At least for Busch. I wonder what it cost them. I also wonder what gets replaced. Are we going to have less Poker championships or less fishing shows?
Will ESPN do like they have done to college football and start dictating when the races start? Other auto racing organizations may benefit but I doubt it.
More importantly has ESPN learned their lesson not to look behind the curtain to see who OZ really is?
 
I see where NASCAR is hoping ESPN can help to boost the audience for the sport once again. I guess they remember that it was ESPN who really started the big boom for NASCAR back in the 80's. Oh how I remember those days and not all the races were televised. Oh how things have changed. Also, back then, some tracks didn't even start 43 cars.

I also wonder how many tracks will come and go from this point on. Thinking back to the 80's, there were many tracks here in the south that NASCAR raced at, whether it was the Busch series or the Cup series. Just a few of the tracks that NASCAR has abandoned...Hickory Speedway, South Boston Speedway, Myrtle Beach Speedway, North Wilksboro Speedway, North Carolina Speedway (Rockingham), Texas World Speedway, and Nashville Speedway and of course, cut back to only one race, Darlington.
 
I see where NASCAR is hoping ESPN can help to boost the audience for the sport once again. I guess they remember that it was ESPN who really started the big boom for NASCAR back in the 80's. Oh how I remember those days and not all the races were televised. Oh how things have changed.

Buckaroo I am sure you remember when we would have to watch weight lifting from Germany and cliff diving from Acapulco to see two or three 30 lap segments of Nascar on Wide World of Sports , thank god things have changed from that era.
 
Will ESPN do like they have done to college football and start dictating when the races start? Other auto racing organizations may benefit but I doubt it.

Fox and NBC have already been doing that. Actually, when ESPN, TNN, and CBS had it, they dictated the times to a point. CBS puposely wanted the Daytona 500 at noon as a lead in to a NBA game which for most years was the Lakers and Celtics.
 
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