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It happened again this weekend. Smoke was dominating, yet is forced to a poor (by his standards) finish in NH. Where is the dominant Tony Stewart that we are used to? Link goes to my thoughts.
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WNY24Fan
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It's Tony's time any race now. I don't think his possible move from Gibbs is affecting his performance. Tony is a racer, first and foremost. No matter what Tony drives, he's out to win. He's certainly proven himself in the Nationwide Series. As you said, his "hot streak" usually starts in the summer. Expect to see him in VL within the next 3 wks. If I had money, I'd bet on it.
buckaroo
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I wonder if anyone else remembers when the late Dale Earnhardt was asked when he was going to win again and he responded by saying that he was going to win the title, even if he had to second them to death! It's always been something for the press to speculate and ask of the public (and of course, when they can ask the driver) when is so and so going to win again. First it was Junior. They were asking Kahne somewhat, and now they are really concentrating on Tony. Why don't we ever hear them ask when Bobby Labonte is going to win again? How about Mark Martin? And why haven't we heard as much about Jeffy? Yeah, I know they've asked that of Jeff, but it seems the most concentration right now is on Tony.
Career multiple winners who have yet to win this year...and have run more than one race...
Jeff Gordon
Greg Biffle
Tony Stewart
Kevin Harvick
Matt Kenseth
Bobby Labonte
Jamie McMurray
Elliott Sadler
Mark Martin
Michael Waltrip
Robby Gordon
Joe Nemechek
Jeremy Mayfield
Kyle Petty
Bill Elliott
Terry Labone
Kenny Schrader
Sterling Marlin
Career multiple winners who have yet to win this year...and have run more than one race...
Jeff Gordon
Greg Biffle
Tony Stewart
Kevin Harvick
Matt Kenseth
Bobby Labonte
Jamie McMurray
Elliott Sadler
Mark Martin
Michael Waltrip
Robby Gordon
Joe Nemechek
Jeremy Mayfield
Kyle Petty
Bill Elliott
Terry Labone
Kenny Schrader
Sterling Marlin
VaDirt
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As weird as it may sound, I wonder if something isn't afoot at JGR. What with Tony jerking them around, and toying with the possible idea of asking out of his contract a year early. There's been enough questionable calls in the pits (two tires when everyone else is gas only...and rain is coming? C'mon!) that maybe, as ludricous as it may seem, JGR is trying to hasten Tony's decision. Yeah, It wouldn't be smart of a car owner intentionally lose races, but who really knows?
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Digger
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I don't think Gibbs cares.
He loses Tony and gains somewhere. He either picks up Logano, though even I'll admit it's WAY TOO EARLY to put Logano in Cup, or someone else. When the Tony Stewart domino falls, and I think he will leave Gibbs, there's going to be a wild wacky silly season ahead. Not to mention, Gibbs also has Wild Thing, who's acting just like Tony when he first hired Tony.
I doubt Gibbs is intentionally ruining Tony's chances - but it's possible. We know Tony Stewart. He gets a win, and he's going to ride a wave of momentium. Tony's better than anyone at cruising off momentium. If you want to buy into the conspiracy theories, here it is. Tony would easily outperform Wild Thing if he started winning race after race.
That said, Smoke and Happy Harvick both don't normally run well until the Summer Series. It could also be the new car. Zippy's possibly not as good with it as Steve Addington. But, I wonder how many other teams would change things in their organization if they saw one car winning every race and two others struggling to get top-tens.
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Digger
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Gordon didn't win until Bristol in 2002, although that took a cheap shot with 3 to go.
Of all the names you listed, Gordon and Kenseth are the only ones that surprise me.
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Its all good
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Where is the aggressiveness in all the racers?? Seems like no one wants to get fined..so they race nice.. might as well use blinkers and hand signals... they do the same thing in the NFL.. penalizing them all the time when they should just let them play
Bucky Badger
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Where is the aggressiveness in all the racers?? Seems like no one wants to get fined..so they race nice.. might as well use blinkers and hand signals... they do the same thing in the NFL.. penalizing them all the time when they should just let them play
Thats what Kyle does.
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Digger
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Seems like NASCAR's been letting them "play" all year.Where is the aggressiveness in all the racers?? Seems like no one wants to get fined..so they race nice.. might as well use blinkers and hand signals... they do the same thing in the NFL.. penalizing them all the time when they should just let them play
As hard as I can be on NASCAR, they've sat back lately and let 'em race. They didn't penalize Harvick or Montoya at Watkins Glen nor did they penalize Steven Wallace at Richmond, and this past weekend, they decided they're not going to suspend Juan Pablo Montoya after he turned Kyle Busch under caution.
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Seems like NASCAR's been letting them "play" all year.
As hard as I can be on NASCAR, they've sat back lately and let 'em race. They didn't penalize Harvick or Montoya at Watkins Glen nor did they penalize Steven Wallace at Richmond, and this past weekend, they decided they're not going to suspend Juan Pablo Montoya after he turned Kyle Busch under caution.
Good.. what do you want them to do? everytime someone wrecks someone else gets a fine??? What kind of racing would that be? Bumpin is racing .. its all part of the game
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Tony could have and should have won 4 races by now (Daytona, Bristol, Charlotte, and Loudon). The move at Daytona was questionable. But a driver isn't going to intentionally throw away a chance at winning the Daytona 500. There was some questionable pit stragedy at Bristol. But it was the DRIVER that wanted new tires, which was the right move. Charlotte was just dumb luck and the same for Loudon. I keep reading these comments about them taking 2 tires when everyone else took gas. But that didn't matter because 9 cars didn't pit when they did. Again, dumb luck.
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Its all good
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That might have something to do with why Kyle wins.. granted his aggressiveness has knocked himself out of the contention for the win a few times but he is the one with 5 wins this year is he not?
Seems like Tony is getting a lil soft.. in his interviews as well.. some say hes growing up.. being more mature but is that really what it is?..or is he tired of getting hauled into the "trailer"? Dont get me wrong.. I love Tony.. hes one of my favs but he just doesnt seem the same.. might be the whole career thing in question but Id like to see the old Tony back!!
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Digger
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Bumping is racing, NASCAR should let it be then.Good.. what do you want them to do? everytime someone wrecks someone else gets a fine??? What kind of racing would that be? Bumpin is racing .. its all part of the game
I say let 'em race, and don't penalize someone next time they decides to retaliate against Wild "I'll weck as many cars as I need to" Thing.
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Do you have to show your ignorance at every turn? Bumping and rubbing is not turning someone around.
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Digger
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Is it Larry Mac who always says "you create your own luck?"
Things aren't working out for Tony at Gibbs. Somewhere, something isn't working.
Same can be said for Harvick. Every single time he has a shot at winning, he either gets wrecked on pit road, tire goes down or something.
At some point, a driver does begin to question things.
Why am I always blowing tires when I'm winning?
Why am I always losing races to pit calls?
Look at Junyer. Everyone said it was just dumb luck with all the problems he had last year. He joined Hendricks and, minus Wild Thing taking a cheap shot at Richmond, that bad luck has gone away.
Am I to believe the garage at Hendrick's is filled with golden horseshoes and it makes all your bad luck go away?
Hmm, maybe I should go visit Hendrick Motorsports - it might replinish me and make some of my bad luck go away. Woo hoo, born again. 
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Digger
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Yep, he didn't turn Hornaday around at Michigan, he didn't turn Junyer around at Richmond, he didn't turn Benson around at Martinsville.Do you have to show your ignorance at every turn? Bumping and rubbing is not turning someone around.
Yep, you're right, all those wrecks and the cautions that came out because of them were just figments of my imagination.
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It's called confidence. When Lil'E went to HMS his confidence level changed. When you only look for a dark cloud then you will only see the bad things; all the while ignoring all the good things going on around you...does that sound familiar. Nothing is ever as bad as people want to make it out to be. Yet some posters like to put down down those who have a cheerful attitude while bemoaning their own bad luck. But then I've never been one to...
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Yep, he didn't turn Hornaday around at Michigan, he didn't turn Junyer around at Richmond, he didn't turn Benson around at Martinsville.
Yep, you're right, all those wrecks and the cautions that came out because of them were just figments of my imagination.
See you can't even follow your own conversations. If he turned them then he may have been wrong. But what Kyle did to JPM is a part of racing and JPM turned him. Yet you want to give JPM kudos while still disparaging Kyle. I think you need to step back from the edge. You are about to lose all grip on your sanity...
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Digger
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If JPM had wrecked any other driver like that, I would've been upset.
But, because he turned Wild Thing, I say kudos.
Only reason I really say that is because Wild Thing's kind of had it coming, and I know even some of you Kyle Busch fans can admit this much. If it wasn't JPM, it would be Hornaday, who I'm sure is still still so thrilled about how much "talent" Ky had when he wrecked him.
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If JPM had wrecked any other driver like that, I would've been upset.
But, because he turned Wild Thing, I say kudos.
If it wasn't JPM, it would be Hornaday, who I'm sure is still still so thrilled about how much "talent" Ky had when he wrecked him.
And that's where you and I differ. What if JPM had caused serious injury or even death to Kyle. I'm sure you would have been ecstatic. What Kyle did to JPM put no one in danger. The fact that you have it out for 1 driver is kind of sad. It just points to your relative immaturity. Maybe one day some girl (or guy, not that there is anything wrong with that) will come along and show you some affection and that will change your opinion on the world. Right now you are one pent up dude with a life time supply of Cornhuskers Lotion...
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Digger
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And Kyle wrecking other drivers has NEVER put them at the same risk of injury.
Why don't you admit it - it's ok for Wild Thing to intentionally wreck another driver, but it's not okay for anyone else to wreck him.
Kyle's done the same crap all year long, and he got a little bit of it back.
Even mudslinger and BobbyFord have said ky. had it coming.
If JPM's antics had hurt or killed Kyle, I'd be the first person demanding NASCAR pull his license and send his rear-end back to Columbia. But, he didn't.
To pull the argument that he could've hurt Kyle is cheap. Kyle could've caused injury to Junyer when he wrecked him at Richmond. Kyle could've caused injurt to Johnny Benson at Martinsville.
And, don't forget, it was Kyle who said "I'll wreck as many cars as I have to."
HE ADMITTED he would've been more than willing to wreck out Steven Wallace to make a point, and said he didn't care how much it would've hurt Steven. In fact, I remember Kyle saying he was gonna get Steven back. And Steven didn't spin him out, he just rubbed him. Like you said, that's racing.
Bucky Badger
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LOL Andy...Haven't just about all drivers said they will get another back... I know they have. Get over it already.
....Rubbed....just like Kyle did to Juan
buckaroo
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Actually it's your irrational hatred for someone you don't even know that says its OK for anyone to wreck Kyle but he shouldn't touch anyone else. No where have I said what Kyle did was right or wrong. You sir are making way too much out of this. Again, take a deep breath and trust me Kyle isn't the boogie man your momma told you was gonna git ya if you didn't be good.
Take off your short pants and put your long pants on and grow a pair. I think you'll find when you do that life is no where as gloomy as you paint it.
I fear that if you don't learn to reel in this emotional rollercoaster you are on the next time Kyle takes out someone, and he will take out someone either intentionally or not, then...
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RCR4Life
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Actually it's your irrational hatred for someone you don't even know that says its OK for anyone to wreck Kyle but he shouldn't touch anyone else. No where have I said what Kyle did was right or wrong. You sir are making way too much out of this. Again, take a deep breath and trust me Kyle isn't the boogie man your momma told you was gonna git ya if you didn't be good.
Take off your short pants and put your long pants on and grow a pair. I think you'll find when you do that life is no where as gloomy as you paint it.
I fear that if you don't learn to reel in this emotional rollercoaster you are on the next time Kyle takes out someone, and he will take out someone either intentionally or not, then...
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No matter what Gibbs may or may not be up to, I can't see Zippy hurting Tony intentionally with a pit call. They're like brothers. I think the only reason people are wondering about Tony not winning yet is because it seemed like he's on a hot streak with doing so well in the Nationwide series and expected it to carry over to Cup. Summer is his time to shine and I'm sure he will, very soon!
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They've said plenty about Jeffy. Trust me. I sort of pay attention to those kinds of comments.
The reason they're focusing on Tony more at this point is because of the business of him possibly/probably leaving Gibbs. I think the only "questions" would be about your top 5. The rest.... eh... not surprising.
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I think Tony is managing to throw in his sarcastic comments w/o getting summoned to the principal's office. While we cheered how Tony put Marty in his place during that interview, the "haters" were asking why he has to be so obnoxious all the time. I guess it all depends on how you see Smoke. I'll call another driver a total jerk for some things Tony has said and done, but I laugh when it's Tony because I like him.
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BP - That pic is just too gross for me "requote." LOL I know lots of people who were happy to see Kyle turned around since there's a good deal of people who don't like him, as well as no one being hurt. That being said, they also don't bring him up in EVERY conversation.
OCD much, Andy?
buckaroo
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Oh yeah, now I've got it. Andy Monk, ofspring of Adrian Monk.OCD much, Andy?
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Digger
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They don't control it, but they knew it was coming. That said, they might've gotten in 10-15 laps of racing had the caution not come out the minute the green did.Yeah, Gibbs and Tony control the weather, too!
But, I think it was going to come down to Kurt and Michael. Too many cars stayed out for anyone who pitted to stand a chance.
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Noooo, but you said they should have black flagged Kurt for dragging a brake hose so by that reasoning he couldn't have won.
It's a shame to be so young and not be able to keep up with what you say from day to day. Old Time's disease at 20 must be hell...
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Good.. what do you want them to do? everytime someone wrecks someone else gets a fine??? What kind of racing would that be? Bumpin is racing .. its all part of the game
Let them race!