Why Chad & Johnsons do not run Nationwide

Yeah, I heard him the other morning on TMD. Not sure I buy into all of his Nationwide story though. I thinkk it's simply that they focus on whats important.

More of Chad's head games in this interview also. :D He's really trying to get in Kyles head this year.
 
Jimmie's been trash in most of the Nationwide races he's run, even recently. Of course, Chad wasn't the one on top of the box, so who knows how it would have ended up.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
yeah and noone shows up to watch the race that way. I don't care about seeing brian scott and justin algairer race
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You're so right it's not about giving young guys a chance to show their skill in a stock car & fulfill their dream of racing in the cup series, it's about the money the fans bring in.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
You're so right it's not about giving young guys a chance to show their skill in a stock car & fulfill their dream of racing in the cup series, it's about the money the fans bring in.
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If that is what it was really about NASCAR wouldn't let Cup drivers in Nationwide.
 
Since this thread seem to be taking the Cup drivers in Nationwide debate direction anyway..... Just curious, do you all have trouble trying to recognize talent because Kyle and other Cup drivers run in the Nationwide Series?
 
KevinWI said:
If that is what it was really about NASCAR wouldn't let Cup drivers in Nationwide.
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Sarcasm bud.

dpkimmel2001 said:
Since this thread seem to be taking the Cup drivers in Nationwide debate direction anyway..... Just curious, do you all have trouble trying to recognize talent because Kyle and other Cup drivers run in the Nationwide Series?
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What?
 
I think the younger Truck Series drivers get more exposure than and make a name for themselves easier than Nationwide drivers do, but that's JMO. Outside of Ryan Blaney at Kentucky a few weeks ago I can't remember the last NNS win by a non-Cup . Meanwhile, kids like Ty Dillon and Chase Elliott get to duke it out in the Trucks for wins and create some memorable moments. That's what I like about the Trucks having more standalone events.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
You win! That was the correct answer. You don't have any problem and neither do the owners. If one of these drivers is felt to be talented then these owners will invest in them. If the talent proves to be true, they'll work their way up the ranks.
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Meanwhile, a cup lite team walks away with the checks. That purse money is hugely important to those teams. I still say the cup lite cars are the major problem. Kyle was crap in his own cars. I would like to see them leave, then the cup guys could take a real challenge and jump in an under funded ride and help them out. What I would really like to see is a mentor program where drivers who would still be considered cup rookies droves 18 races with some help setting up from a cup driver, who would race the balance of the schedule.

That would be giving back to the sport, not this stepping down into the prized rides to be "the man". I was real disappointed to see how few races Blaney got this year.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I think the younger Truck Series drivers get more exposure than and make a name for themselves easier than Nationwide drivers do, but that's JMO. Outside of Ryan Blaney at Kentucky a few weeks ago I can't remember the last NNS win by a non-Cup . Meanwhile, kids like Ty Dillon and Chase Elliott get to duke it out in the Trucks for wins and create some memorable moments. That's what I like about the Trucks having more standalone events.
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Yep. The trucks were the retirement series, but now they are the feeder series.
 
That was pretty funny. I think Chad was serious though. He doesn't want to put his reputation on the line by getting bad results in a lower series.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I think the younger Truck Series drivers get more exposure than and make a name for themselves easier than Nationwide drivers do, but that's JMO. Outside of Ryan Blaney at Kentucky a few weeks ago I can't remember the last NNS win by a non-Cup . Meanwhile, kids like Ty Dillon and Chase Elliott get to duke it out in the Trucks for wins and create some memorable moments. That's what I like about the Trucks having more standalone events.
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Wanna know why? Cuz there's less, or none at times, cup guys in that series. It's fun to hear about young kids being successful & having a future in a top league. If NASCAR keeps up letting pro guys in the under series there will never be an Andrew Luck, RG III, or Clowney of NASCAR.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Since this thread seem to be taking the Cup drivers in Nationwide debate direction anyway..... Just curious, do you all have trouble trying to recognize talent because Kyle and other Cup drivers run in the Nationwide Series?
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if the cup drivers want to run the Busch races it should be there own team not the one they run in cup. make them spend their own money.
 
BOWTIE GUY said:
if the cup drivers want to run the Busch races it should be there own team not the one they run in cup. make them spend their own money.
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Or better yet, put them all on one team and only let one of them run a weekend. Put them in a car sponsored by the Sprint Cup Series so every nationwide driver makes it their objective, besides winning, to beat that cup car car to prove their skills.
 
FenderBumper said:
Meanwhile, a cup lite team walks away with the checks. That purse money is hugely important to those teams. I still say the cup lite cars are the major problem. Kyle was crap in his own cars. I would like to see them leave, then the cup guys could take a real challenge and jump in an under funded ride and help them out. What I would really like to see is a mentor program where drivers who would still be considered cup rookies droves 18 races with some help setting up from a cup driver, who would race the balance of the schedule.

That would be giving back to the sport, not this stepping down into the prized rides to be "the man". I was real disappointed to see how few races Blaney got this year.
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I have seen Kyle helping several guys with their setups ------------ Joey ---- Kligerman and Sadler come to mind.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Since this thread seem to be taking the Cup drivers in Nationwide debate direction anyway..... Just curious, do you all have trouble trying to recognize talent because Kyle and other Cup drivers run in the Nationwide Series?
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The problem I see is that when Kyle Busch wins, it's all anyone talks about and to be frank, they're all talking about how he's a racing messiah and how he was able to win so many races and blah blah blah. I do think Kyle Busch dominating the Nationwide series do hurt the series in the same way that Johnson's dominance in the Championship also hurt the Cup series. After awhile, it just become boring and predictable.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I think the younger Truck Series drivers get more exposure than and make a name for themselves easier than Nationwide drivers do, but that's JMO. Outside of Ryan Blaney at Kentucky a few weeks ago I can't remember the last NNS win by a non-Cup . Meanwhile, kids like Ty Dillon and Chase Elliott get to duke it out in the Trucks for wins and create some memorable moments. That's what I like about the Trucks having more standalone events.
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Smith at Michigan
Bayne at Iowa
Smith at dega
Hornish at Vegas
Oh, can't forget Dinger's two rc wins

Busch, Logan, and Kesolowski have 19 races this year...
 
SpeedPagan said:
The problem I see is that when Kyle Busch wins, it's all anyone talks about and to be frank, they're all talking about how he's a racing messiah and how he was able to win so many races and blah blah blah. I do think Kyle Busch dominating the Nationwide series do hurt the series in the same way that Johnson's dominance in the Championship also hurt the Cup series. After awhile, it just become boring and predictable.
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Nothing boring about last night.
 
SpeedPagan said:
The problem I see is that when Kyle Busch wins, it's all anyone talks about and to be frank, they're all talking about how he's a racing messiah and how he was able to win so many races and blah blah blah. I do think Kyle Busch dominating the Nationwide series do hurt the series in the same way that Johnson's dominance in the Championship also hurt the Cup series. After awhile, it just become boring and predictable.
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The difference is Jimmie dominated in a series of top-tier drivers, and Kyle dominates in a series of up-and-comers and less skilled drivers.
 
1 win in 93 starts. Johnson and Knaus don't do N'wide..makes sense to me. Entirely different series. Lighter car, less motor, less tires, different tires, shorter race. Completely different suspension and setup. Pit strategy completely different. Some drivers are great in the car with lower speeds and less horsepower, it takes a knack to run one fast. some can make the switch to the cup car, some can't and are better in the N'wide car. Logano, Busch and Martin off the top of my head were great in a N'wide, won more than their share of races. Moved up to the cup and although they are doing well, they aren't winning like they did in the N'wide. Johnson is just the opposite. they know where their strength is. 1 win in 93 races isn't it.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
You're so right it's not about giving young guys a chance to show their skill in a stock car & fulfill their dream of racing in the cup series, it's about the money the fans bring in.
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Sarcastic are we? Nationwide should always have Cup guys as long as it doesn't get to the point where there are more Cup regulars than NW guys.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
yeah and noone shows up to watch the race that way. I don't care about seeing brian scott and justin algairer race
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Exactly. Morons complains about the Cup guys "stealing" the checks. The checks would be ARCA sized without the Cup guys.

Check out how many people watch an ARCA race vs a NW race.
Hell, check out how many people watch a Trucks race vs a NW race.

Nascar will never listen to the whiny, so-called "hard-core" fans cause almost everything they suggest would destroy Nascar's business.

There's plenty of no-name drivers in ARCA to watch.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Sarcastic are we? Nationwide should always have Cup guys as long as it doesn't get to the point where there are more Cup regulars than NW guys.
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Or to the point when the cup guys dominate the series. Oh.
 
StandOnIt said:
1 win in 93 starts. Johnson and Knaus don't do N'wide..makes sense to me. Entirely different series. Lighter car, less motor, less tires, different tires, shorter race. Completely different suspension and setup. Pit strategy completely different. Some drivers are great in the car with lower speeds and less horsepower, it takes a knack to run one fast. some can make the switch to the cup car, some can't and are better in the N'wide car. Logano, Busch and Martin off the top of my head were great in a N'wide, won more than their share of races. Moved up to the cup and although they are doing well, they aren't winning like they did in the N'wide. Johnson is just the opposite. they know where their strength is. 1 win in 93 races isn't it.
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Yes....................... I saw JJ in his last NW race and those cars arent his strength. Kyle Busch has them figured out better than anyone out there IMO
 
Kyle18fan said:
Yes....................... I saw JJ in his last NW race and those cars arent his strength. Kyle Busch has them figured out better than anyone out there IMO
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Yeah Kyle is a great N'wide driver and a good cup driver. Johnson is a great cup driver can run one right on the edge, has his cars setup to run on the ragged edge. they are not comfortable to drive, but they are fast.
 
StandOnIt said:
Yeah Kyle is a great N'wide driver and a good cup driver. Johnson is a great cup driver can run one right on the edge, has his cars setup to run on the ragged edge. they are not comfortable to drive, but they are fast.
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Johnson is so darn smooth that it doesnt even look like he is fast, boring to watch IMO But he gets it done.
Nothing I enjoy more than watching Kyle wheel a NW car................................ the kid is awesome:eek:
 
Nascar stops makin money and we have to find another sport to watch cause they be gone :(
 
Kyle18fan said:
Johnson is so darn smooth that it doesnt even look like he is fast, boring to watch IMO But he gets it done.
Nothing I enjoy more than watching Kyle wheel a NW car................................ the kid is awesome:eek:
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You can join SB22 in the "My driver is awesome because he dominates a lower series" thread
 
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