Why is Petty racing never any good?

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With the name Petty it seems that they would have great resources, why are they never any good? It doesn't seem to matter who you put in their cars. I've always thought Andretti was an underrated driver.

That is something that has always bugged me. It's kinda embarrassing for Nascar if you think about it.

I wish they were better, they do alot of great things for the community.

Anyone have any ideas?
 
I think after Adam Died >> maybe their heart just isn't in it! I have also heard that they just don't put the money into their racing program like other top teams do!

Who Knows >> but I sure would like to see them win races again! After All Richard Petty is still the "King" !
 
For once I tend to agree with flyboy, I don't think they have the cash to spend or they just won't spend the cash that other top teams do. I would love to see PE return to its rightful place, at the front of the points.
 
Petty racing is like a bird...cheep, cheep, cheep. :p Really it seems to me that they never look for talent in the busch or Arca ranks; they just hire who ever is out of a ride in Winston (Nextell).
 
I think their problems are a lot deeper than just talent! The chassis and engine aren't up to speed either!

At one time Kyle had a lot of talent >> back in his Felix Sabates Mellow Yellow Days!
 
Petty Enterprises is a team that is capable of having good finishes, they had a couple top 10s and a bunch of top 15s late in the going this year and they nearly won a race in 2002, it seemed like they were on a rebound that year. Now it's time to figure out the problem at hand after the dismal 2003 season, oh where, oh where do we start? Hmm, maybe Mike Ege, the engine builder? During this years Pepsi 400, I believe the 43 and 44 were unable to qualify for the race. Now, when two of your drivers are unable to make the race, wouldnt you go berserk on your engine builder and fire him?

No, it appears they havent. Firstly, What needs to be done, is the engine staff to be fired completely and a new staff hired, hell, at this point, where your team is, you'd be willing to try anything.

Secondly, get drivers who know what a stock car feels like, basically experienced veterans. I dont have that much for Christian Fittipaldi, for a man who's never recorded a top 10 finish in a Busch Grand National car and has seen less than a year of action in that series to be hired by a Winston Cup team, that's nuts, no that's not just nuts, it's just wrong. You'll need veterans, guys who've been in the sport long enough who know how to set up a car and can help pile up some good finishes as the team grows.

Thirdly, talent, I'll just say Christian Fittipaldi didnt have it, maybe a year back in Busch Series and he'll be ready for the big leagues however he's just running laps and crashing into walls out there. There are lots of promising young drivers in the Busch Grand National Series, Craftsman Truck and ARCA ranks, you'd have to be either blind, dumb or deaf not to be looking that way. I've been hearing rumors that Petty Enterprises has had their eye on Shane Hmiel for a while now (he is still in drug rehabilitation BTW ), it is also rumored that Steve Hmiel, who's the technical director at Dale Earnhardt, Inc. might come along if Shane goes to Petty Enterprises. Unlike Fittipaldi who was just thrown into the car this year, it might be best to have a young driver try out 4 or 5 races in preparation for a rookie of the year title hunt the next year.

Lastly, it might be in Petty Enterprises best interest to switch manufacturers if need be. Just a suggestion.

With the right amount of stuff, from my standpoint, Petty Enterprises should get at least a win within the next three years and should be able to land a car in the top 20 in the points during that time.
 
A serious restructure is needed to restore the once dominant force in Nascar's top ranks to a level even close to what it once was.

A total from the ground-up reevaluation and reorganizing will be needed: Engine room,personnell, chasis and drivers. And even then it will be next to impossible to bring this team up to par with Penske, Roush or Hendrick.


Like with the Wood Bros., sometimes when you lose the 'handle' the sport passes you by. A bad sign of things to come was seen a few years back when the legendary Bud Moore Engineering was disbanded and the once respected # 15 just another number.The handwriting was on the wall then.

I wish Petty and crew the best---but I am not optimistic. :(
 
Kyle needs to retire that would solve half the problems. Kyle needs to focus on the business and not racing any longer.
 
All good thoughts here. And I do agree that Petty just isn't putting the $$$
in it's racing program. Ege, should stand down and allow someone
that knows how to build and prep an engine to come in. But maybe
the Petty's and Ege are joined at the hip, so to speak????

Oh, yes, please, Kyle, retire. I don't believe your heart is really
into racing now either. I think youare driving more out of habit than
the love of the competition. Like a smoker trying to quit. It may be hard,
but maybe it would be in the best interests of you and your team if you intend
to stay in the racing business???????? ;) :rolleyes:
 
I bet if they would buy some Evernham chassis and some Penske/Jasper Engines they would do a Whole lot better right out of the Box!

Jeff Green can drive and at one Point Kyle could too! Kyle won a bunch of races in the Early 90's with the Mellow Yellow car >> Give him a real good car and maybe he would get excited again!!
 
I think that the death of Adam took the last of the fire out of the Petty org. They seemed to have gotten behind and couldn't catch back up. I can't believe that with the way they have been running the past several years that they are really getting the big bucks to run with. Maybe they just need to hire a good gen manager to run things and stay out of his way. I really hate to see the way they have declined since Richard was my favorite driver and I like Mopars.
 
Originally posted by steveluvs3@Dec 25 2003, 08:33 PM
good one EJL
What make is that Steve? Nose really looks different than any I have seen before?
 
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