Will NASCAR Add more Road Races?

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By Mike Mulhern
JOURNAL REPORTER

SONOMA, Calif.

Not every driver on the stock-car tour loves road racing. But NASCAR is focused on one thing right now - big television markets. That's why it has just added a second Nextel Cup tour stop in Los Angeles and a second stop in Phoenix. And San Francisco - about 45 miles from here - is the fourth-largest market in the U.S. If track owner Bruton Smith had a nice big oval here, or even something like Bristol Motor Speedway, this would certainly be a two-stop town on the Nextel Cup circuit. What he does have is one of the sport's most technically demanding tracks, a road course that makes rookies gulp when they first see it.

NASCAR's top tour has been racing here for 16 years, so Ricky Rudd said, "if the numbers support it, I wouldn't be surprised to see a second date." That would suit Robby Gordon just fine.
Gordon, who has been quite busy this year with his new Busch team and his Indy team, was the king of the road courses last season, winning here and at Watkins Glen. So car owner Richard Childress may be counting on him to help his three-car team snap out of its maddening funk.

Ryan Newman likes it here, too. Newman, last week's winner at Michigan, flipped at Watkins Glen the last time out in a road-course car, but he said, "I guess I'm one of the minority because I really like road-course racing. I honestly wish there were more of them on the schedule. We have scored a top 10 in every road-course race we've been in. "I look forward to this time in the season because this is typically when the team's performance picks up. From Michigan to Chicago, I'm looking for good things to happen the next couple of weeks."

Can Gordon - Robby, not Jeff - continue his hot streak here? "The one thing I remember most about winning last year is we cruised all day long and, it sounds crazy, but we didn't have to run hard," Gordon said. "It was because the car handled good, and we just paced ourselves and took care of the tires.
"With road courses, you can't drive into the corner really deep. It is better to slow down early and be on the gas all the way through the corner accelerating and try not to skid the car very much.
"We are pretty confident we have the road-course game dialed in, but there is always room for improvement. Some people asked me why we were going out there to test, but it just made sense. Practice makes perfect. Plus, we work all year long turning left, and to get one of the 3,400-pound stock cars to turn right is completely different, and it also just helped me get back into the shifting groove.

"We were about two- to three-tenths faster in the race trim than I qualified last year. Toward the end, we got out our qualifying trim and ran a 15.90, pretty impressive and a good way to wrap up.
"This weekend is going to be important because it could help us move up in the standings; some of the drivers higher tend to struggle on road courses. So if everything plays in our favor, we could make up 40 to 50 points."

If Ford's new D-3 engine makes a difference, as Dale Jarrett showed last weekend at Michigan, and if Rudd runs one here, he might be back in the game, too. Rudd, once one of the tour's best road racers, is famous for the race he "won" here only to get the black from NASCAR instead of the checkered flag, in one of the sport's more hotly debated finishes. This time, he said, Infineon Raceway's smooth new asphalt - the entire two-mile course has been repaved - should make Sunday a wide-open affair.

"A year or so ago you could halfway predict your potential winners, but I'll be honest, the track has been resurfaced and it's a different race track, and I would be afraid to pick a car to be dominant," Rudd said. "The Ganassi cars tested pretty well .They had some new experimental stuff that they were working on, and their stuff was pretty fast. Jamie McMurray and Scott Pruett were pretty fast. "But there are a whole host of guys that can get the job done, with the new pavement. That's made it an easier track to drive, which generally translates into more opportunities for guys that maybe typically don't run well.

"It's going to be awfully fast. Usually cars would run pretty good for a couple of laps when the tires were fresh, then there would be a two-second falloff when the tires went away. What we saw with the new asphalt is it gave the tires so much grip and bite, or forward traction off the corners, that wheel spin is not an issue any more. "So at the end of a gas-stop run, you're running about as fast as you were on laps one or two.

One thing should remain the same, though, Rudd said - late-race madness. Drivers work so hard most of the race not to make mistakes, to stay on the asphalt and off the dirt. Then in the final 10 laps they all go crazy. "As the race gets near the end, you'll see passing just about anywhere, and most likely where you don't expect to see it," Rudd said. "You just crowd your car into places that really aren't typically a passing zone. A good example is the exit of turn 11, and as you round the corner in turn one to climb the hill. Usually you'll see cars that are lapped getting passed; but late in the race it's a game of who is going to give first.

During his 15 years racing here, Rudd has seen the many changes Smith has made in the layout. The elimination of the carousel, the Kulwicki Korner, is one. That boot made it "night and day difference" with Watkins Glen, the tour's other road course, and much easier.
 
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I'll believe it when Nascar makes an official announcement, even though I LOVE road courses!
 
I'd like to see more road courses, but would like them to be at new venues that have no races yet.
 
Elkart lake, Road America would be a hoot!!! 2.5 miles through the woods and it would meet a safety requirments (CART races there now)...Brats for everybody!
 
I'd like to see them add at least 4 road course races to the circuit. 2 at Daytona and 2 at Talladega replacing the races on the ovals races there.
 
Originally posted by TonyB@Jun 24 2004, 03:18 PM
I'd like to see them add at least 4 road course races to the circuit. 2 at Daytona and 2 at Talladega replacing the races on the ovals races there.
That sounds good to me Tony, would have to be better racing. :D
 
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I love "roadies"!!!!!!!!!!
More is great as far as I am concerned!!!!!
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Originally posted by redrock@Jun 24 2004, 02:15 PM
Elkart lake, Road America would be a hoot!!! 2.5 miles through the woods and it would meet a safety requirments (CART races there now)...Brats for everybody!
I'd love to see it. I think they should at least add 2 more. They have 4 restrictor plate tracks. If they don't add road courses, someone has to build another bristol or a richmond with the stands of bristol.
 
They need to add at least one more. Put one in the 10 race shoot out.
 
Based on what I have heard on most of the NASCAR shows,
everytime this is brought up, it gets just as suddenly
snuffed!! Reasons so far, 3400 lb cars on dirt just don't mix.
Too expensive to tear up these costly cars on a dirt track;
and over half of them would be damaged beyond repair!
Tires, set-ups, specs would all have to be changed, and
friends, that is mucho dinero!!!!! Most of the teams are running
on such a tight budget that you might get about half to 1/4 of the cars to compete.

LOL Dream on, dirt lovers of America. JMHO, but I don't
think it will ever happen!!
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I'd prefer to see a different venue also for a road course,but a 2nd date at Infineon Raceway would be better than no extra road course dates,and yes it should be placed among the final 10 races of the season as they're the most challenging track type in this Series. ;)
Now,bring in a couple of short track dates to make up for the 2 dates lost with North Wilkesboro's closing and the schedule would be much,much better IMHO. :D
 
I actually hope they don't add any more road courses. Two's plenty for a series that is born of ovals. I will concede that maybe one of the road races should be added to the final "Chase for the Championship"...........but I would prefer it not be Infineon. Of the two road courses, Infineon is my least favorite. I'll take a plate race any day over a road!! :D :cheers:
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Jun 24 2004, 09:01 PM
I actually hope they don't add any more road courses. Two's plenty for a series that is born of ovals. I will concede that maybe one of the road races should be added to the final "Chase for the Championship"...........but I would prefer it not be Infineon. Of the two road courses, Infineon is my least favorite. I'll take a plate race any day over a road!! :D :cheers:
That's cool,U can have the plate race anyday and I'll take the road course,cheers :D :lol:
 
1 Daytona and 1 Talladega Roadie, add Road Atlanta and I'm kewl with the idea!
 
Originally posted by kat2220@Jun 24 2004, 09:09 PM
1 Daytona and 1 Talladega Roadie, add Road Atlanta and I'm kewl with the idea!
Kat's being politically correct. :D
 
Originally posted by 24thunder@Jun 25 2004, 08:09 AM
I thought that bashing wasn't allowed here? :D  :lol:
Depends on what kind of bashing you are talking about.
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I like the road course races. They do make the weekend a bit different in my opinion. But I do think NASCAR shouldn't add any more IMO.
 
Originally posted by 24thunder+Jun 25 2004, 09:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (24thunder @ Jun 25 2004, 09:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--kat2220@Jun 24 2004, 09:14 PM
Don't make me slap you silly! :XXROFL:
I thought that bashing wasn't allowed here? :D :lol: [/b][/quote]
MOI, BASH......naw The Kat don't bash, she usually purrs!
 

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Originally posted by Dinoforthe3@Jun 24 2004, 05:16 PM

I'd love to see it. I think they should at least add 2 more. They have 4 restrictor plate tracks. If they don't add road courses, someone has to build another bristol or a richmond with the stands of bristol.
Track is built, identical to bristol but 3 stage/steeper banking, alledgedly has craftsman trucks committed by '06, in of all places Cecil Georgia (population less than 1k)already operates brand new awesome 1/4 drag, completing stands for oval now. south georgia motorsport park. website is available and has link to local photographer that posts pics eevery monday of previous weekends events.
Would watch another road race or two, tired of plate "racing". cool to see rudd up front again too.
 
arca races on dirt...i don't think it would be as expensive as plate tracks, or tear up as much equipment as bristol. the main drawback is the dust. as short as the arca race at duquoin is, the track gets so dusty that the drivers can barely see. if a cup-length race was to be held there, they'd have to throw a caution every 50 laps to water the track down...but of course nascare wouldn't have a set schedule for watering the track, they would just do it when they felt like it...and i don't think we need any more arbitrary, field freezing yellows than we already have.
 
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