Would hooiser's return help the racing

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by 4tires17gals, Dec 20, 2016.

  1. 4tires17gals

    4tires17gals Crew Chief

    I guess yes. Competition generally helps many parts life like economy, school, and sports.
     
  2. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    I feel edified.
     
  3. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I doubt it, I can't see two companies doing all the testing required and build them for a limited number of sales. I am surprised Good Year goes to all that trouble. I walk into a tire shop today and have a hard time to find the name Good Year or Michelin.
     
  4. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Great movie.

    Hate re-makes.
     
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  5. R Clarence

    R Clarence Team Owner

    Wonder if ole Smoke’s retirement makes any difference…...
     
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  6. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Master of Muppets

    You really want to relive the tire war fiasco?
     
  7. 2 Sweet

    2 Sweet Legend

    Exactly. Competition is great and all, but not in this case. The tire war really was a fiasco, and luckily was short lived. The biggest dilemma was that many folks were questioning the safety. Some of the more extreme went as far as blaming Hoosier for Neil Bonnett's death.
     
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  8. Acs

    Acs Team Owner

    Just spitballing here; what would it be like if Hoosier ran tires alongside Goodyear, but ran a completely different compound from them each race? Like in F1 teams could swap out compounds as they see fit for strategy. Not happening, I know.
     
  9. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Goodyear has a contract protecting their large, ongoing investment.

    Neither Hoosier nor Hooiser will be providing valve stems for Cup cars.
     
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  10. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    Most tracks in Late Model Stock Car racing run Hoosier. I like tire management racing in long distance races. But when a 40 lap race is a tire management race... Sad part is American Racer has a far superior tire and drivers shitmouth them.

    Don't know why people think they're the answer in NASCAR.
     
  11. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    Probably not. Very cost prohibitive imo for someone like Hoosier. They just dont get the same amount of useful marketing that Goodyear does. Goodyear has mass DOT markets to look at the decals. While Hoosier sales almost exclusively to auto racing, I want to say completely I think that's the case.

    Competing tire companies or the tire war scenario cannot be as objective with safety. The tire had to be faster or else, and compromises that wouldn't normally occour become part of the new demand.

    And if one of the competing brands shows up with a better tire there drivers will probably dominate, even if inferrior to the drivers using the slower tires. And some of those teams would probably have contracts that limited any tire free agency. So the whole criteria for being the driver with the speed and tire management is severely restricted.

    Tire management is a great thing imo, I want it to be as big as possibile, while also having a relatively safe tire. Driver /Team Tire management during a tire war would be almost impossible to create imo. Good tires against inferior tires is a non negotiable thing or almost impossible to defeat. An average driver on the better brand would almost always beat the best drivers on on the inferior brand. (this paragraph a little a repetitious of the previous one, to tired at 5:40 am to revise)

    The current case were everyone gets the same tires, the same amount, with no cherry picking for a chosen few is for the best. Too good of a thing to screw up, imo
     
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  12. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    Just like in the 90's there'd be no way for Hoosier and Goodyear to coexist. Safety would go by the wayside. If they replaced Goodyear we'd simply be left with what we already have.
     
  13. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Crew Chief

    So we can see Hoosiers side walls fail after running tire pressures too low...too?
     
  14. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

  15. Bucky Badger

    Bucky Badger Go Kyle Go

    No Way, Been there done that
     
  16. klemmabyna

    klemmabyna Team Owner

    not sure how many of you are old enough to remember the last time this game was played, but I am that old.

    I never want to see tire wars again. I like race car drivers.
     
  17. Old 97

    Old 97 Miss Outside

    The short answer is NO. But a purple Hoosier hat covered with red clay dust is waaaay cooler than anything that Goodyear has to offer.
     
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  18. It didn't work in the '90's..... It won't work now... Hoosier was........ in comparison to Goodyear just a mom and pop outfit..... They were required to bring enough tires to outfit the complete field.... It was a losing proposition for them. Goodyear could stand the blow for as long as it took..... Hoosier couldn't..... Only a manufacturer like Firestone or the other major players... (I think Continental is the biggest player in the world)could ever have the deep pockets to contest them...... and..... It isn't going to happen......
     
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  19. Biggreen695

    Biggreen695 Team Owner

    I had a set of Goodyear all terrain tires on the first truck I ever bought and they were JUNK. I hate it for nascar teams.


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  20. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    ^ Prolly needed a softer compound. :rolleyes:
     
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  21. 29-4

    29-4 Team Owner

    I know what you mean. I once bought a Monster Energy that had lost its fizz. How could NASCAR allow such a horrible company to be sponsor?
     
  22. R Clarence

    R Clarence Team Owner

    Be leavin' in a few minutes, riskin' life 'n limb by takin' a hundred mile run on I64 in my Goodyear shod station wagon.

    Cheated death many times on this stretch of road since I had 'em installed.......................
     
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  23. Zerkfitting

    Zerkfitting Team Owner

    NASCAR and Goodyear have invested a lot of time testing at the tracks to develop tires for the tracks. It's not about building a faster tire, it is about making a tire that provides better racing at a given track. The Goodyear/Hooiser competition was about winning the pole position, the tires weren't very good for racing.
     
  24. Skoalbandit33

    Skoalbandit33 Team Owner

    Geoff Bodine liked his Hoosiers as they were fast but didn't last. At this point Nascar as many more problems to try and fix before even thinking about tires.
     
  25. R Clarence

    R Clarence Team Owner

    Almost forgot - don't want y'all worrin'.

    122 miles total. Back safe, sound 'n without incident on one set.
     
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  26. BOWTIE GUY

    BOWTIE GUY Team Owner

    tire wars equal less safety. no tire wars needed.
     
  27. ted@economy

    [email protected] in the interest of equal time

    I think they would make a great replacement if Goodyear ever leave . Meantime there is only room for one tire manufacturer .
     
  28. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    Idk I love that commercial of theirs with Dale Jr
     
  29. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan OWD



    The first owner of said truck failed to rotate the tires every weekend
     
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  30. sprinterv6

    sprinterv6 Crew Chief

    Michelin, because they manufacturer quality products.
     
  31. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan OWD



    Yes .......sidewalls are as sidewalls do
     
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  32. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Kylie ... glad you're back. :D
     
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  33. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan OWD



    You seen my dad ? worm.jpg he has been missing for 2 months
     
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  34. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Master of Muppets

    Hey ya Dirt, hope you stay around a bit longer than your pappy nemotode did.
     
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  35. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan OWD



    Daddy had a bad attitude !!! he will be fine when he discovers that Dale junior is back in the 88
     
  36. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Heard he runt off with the big lady down the street.
     
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  37. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan OWD


    Most likely ....... he never was worth a damn .... except for he gets 5 percent discount at Aarons !!!
     
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