Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by 4tires17gals, Dec 20, 2016.
I guess yes. Competition generally helps many parts life like economy, school, and sports.
I feel edified.
I doubt it, I can't see two companies doing all the testing required and build them for a limited number of sales. I am surprised Good Year goes to all that trouble. I walk into a tire shop today and have a hard time to find the name Good Year or Michelin.
Wonder if ole Smoke’s retirement makes any difference…...
You really want to relive the tire war fiasco?
Exactly. Competition is great and all, but not in this case. The tire war really was a fiasco, and luckily was short lived. The biggest dilemma was that many folks were questioning the safety. Some of the more extreme went as far as blaming Hoosier for Neil Bonnett's death.
Just spitballing here; what would it be like if Hoosier ran tires alongside Goodyear, but ran a completely different compound from them each race? Like in F1 teams could swap out compounds as they see fit for strategy. Not happening, I know.
Goodyear has a contract protecting their large, ongoing investment.
Neither Hoosier nor Hooiser will be providing valve stems for Cup cars.
Most tracks in Late Model Stock Car racing run Hoosier. I like tire management racing in long distance races. But when a 40 lap race is a tire management race... Sad part is American Racer has a far superior tire and drivers shitmouth them.
Don't know why people think they're the answer in NASCAR.
Probably not. Very cost prohibitive imo for someone like Hoosier. They just dont get the same amount of useful marketing that Goodyear does. Goodyear has mass DOT markets to look at the decals. While Hoosier sales almost exclusively to auto racing, I want to say completely I think that's the case.
Competing tire companies or the tire war scenario cannot be as objective with safety. The tire had to be faster or else, and compromises that wouldn't normally occour become part of the new demand.
And if one of the competing brands shows up with a better tire there drivers will probably dominate, even if inferrior to the drivers using the slower tires. And some of those teams would probably have contracts that limited any tire free agency. So the whole criteria for being the driver with the speed and tire management is severely restricted.
Tire management is a great thing imo, I want it to be as big as possibile, while also having a relatively safe tire. Driver /Team Tire management during a tire war would be almost impossible to create imo. Good tires against inferior tires is a non negotiable thing or almost impossible to defeat. An average driver on the better brand would almost always beat the best drivers on on the inferior brand. (this paragraph a little a repetitious of the previous one, to tired at 5:40 am to revise)
The current case were everyone gets the same tires, the same amount, with no cherry picking for a chosen few is for the best. Too good of a thing to screw up, imo
Just like in the 90's there'd be no way for Hoosier and Goodyear to coexist. Safety would go by the wayside. If they replaced Goodyear we'd simply be left with what we already have.
So we can see Hoosiers side walls fail after running tire pressures too low...too?
No Way, Been there done that
not sure how many of you are old enough to remember the last time this game was played, but I am that old.
I never want to see tire wars again. I like race car drivers.
The short answer is NO. But a purple Hoosier hat covered with red clay dust is waaaay cooler than anything that Goodyear has to offer.
It didn't work in the '90's..... It won't work now... Hoosier was........ in comparison to Goodyear just a mom and pop outfit..... They were required to bring enough tires to outfit the complete field.... It was a losing proposition for them. Goodyear could stand the blow for as long as it took..... Hoosier couldn't..... Only a manufacturer like Firestone or the other major players... (I think Continental is the biggest player in the world)could ever have the deep pockets to contest them...... and..... It isn't going to happen......
I had a set of Goodyear all terrain tires on the first truck I ever bought and they were JUNK. I hate it for nascar teams.
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^ Prolly needed a softer compound.
I know what you mean. I once bought a Monster Energy that had lost its fizz. How could NASCAR allow such a horrible company to be sponsor?
Be leavin' in a few minutes, riskin' life 'n limb by takin' a hundred mile run on I64 in my Goodyear shod station wagon.
Cheated death many times on this stretch of road since I had 'em installed.......................
NASCAR and Goodyear have invested a lot of time testing at the tracks to develop tires for the tracks. It's not about building a faster tire, it is about making a tire that provides better racing at a given track. The Goodyear/Hooiser competition was about winning the pole position, the tires weren't very good for racing.
Geoff Bodine liked his Hoosiers as they were fast but didn't last. At this point Nascar as many more problems to try and fix before even thinking about tires.
Almost forgot - don't want y'all worrin'.
122 miles total. Back safe, sound 'n without incident on one set.
tire wars equal less safety. no tire wars needed.
I think they would make a great replacement if Goodyear ever leave . Meantime there is only room for one tire manufacturer .
Idk I love that commercial of theirs with Dale Jr
The first owner of said truck failed to rotate the tires every weekend
Michelin, because they manufacturer quality products.
Yes .......sidewalls are as sidewalls do
Kylie ... glad you're back.
You seen my dad ?
he has been missing for 2 months
Hey ya Dirt, hope you stay around a bit longer than your pappy nemotode did.
Daddy had a bad attitude !!! he will be fine when he discovers that Dale junior is back in the 88
Heard he runt off with the big lady down the street.
Most likely ....... he never was worth a damn .... except for he gets 5 percent discount at Aarons !!!
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