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WTH or maybe WTF is going on with the young people in this country today?
Just heard from my daughter, one of the guys in the next town over in their vol fire dept that she knew blew his freakin' head off. 27 years old, nice family, had a decent job and a vol FF for the past 8 years. Ate the barrel of a 12 guage shotgun.

He had argued with his live in girl friend over a cell phone bill.

I lost the opportunity of purchasing 38 acres and a house when my ex split two days before closing in '75. The thought of blowing my head off never entered the picture.

WTH is going on today?
 
Children today are not taught to respect life. In many of the miniority communities, kids don't expect to live past their 20's anyway. It's sad that anyone feels that the only answer to their problem is to cut short their own life.
 
You are correct that the youngsters of today don't have as much respect for life as they should. Why, I don't exactly know. I once fired a guy that was working for me for non-performance, he was from Nigeria, and he threatened to shoot me, saying that life meant little to him where he came from.
 
Im going to answer this as a young person that i am. The problem is alot of the younger people have lived a sheltered life. They dont know how to react when something goes wrong, shoting yourself seems very extream for a cell phone bill. There is a good chance he could of had some mental problems but didnt want to get help. But as the economy is in the toilets right now unfortinitly where going to hear more things like this. Young people especially that have not lived on there own before may have no where to turn when they encounter money problems so they act on impulse.
 
wilson89 said:
Im going to answer this as a young person that i am. The problem is alot of the younger people have lived a sheltered life. They dont know how to react when something goes wrong, shoting yourself seems very extream for a cell phone bill. There is a good chance he could of had some mental problems but didnt want to get help. But as the economy is in the toilets right now unfortinitly where going to hear more things like this. Young people especially that have not lived on there own before may have no where to turn when they encounter money problems so they act on impulse.
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I'd say that is pretty much right on......the sheltered thing is the key, young kids these days are not exposed to making a go of it on their own until they HAVE to. If you asked a 10 year old today if he could operate the washing machine, chances are you would get "I Dunno". Or ask him to mow the lawn, take out the trash, shovel the driveway, help with supper, do chores with your dad....you would get NO I Don't Want to. Kids these days are not forced to do anything, they have it way too easy, and to think when I was a kid I actually used to look forward to doing yard work with my Dad, it was quality time we got to share, and I wouldn't of missed it for the world. Kids today don't understand the value of hard work, integrity, the value of a dollar, or what to do with that dollar when you have a lot of them. I shouldn't throw every kid into this catagory, but the majority growing up today, seem to fit this bill.
 
Just something to think about. Some time ago, this very subject came up with some co-workers. One man asked if anyone had heard of any children that lived on farms had committed suicide. It was a great question and though I'm sure there have been some, but as few as there are, any news like that would be almost non-existant. However, it got me to thinking about how different kids were that grew up on a farm than those kids that grew up in the city. In the larger population areas, I doubt that very many people even know of anyone who lives on a farm, but when you get into the farming country, especially the small communities, there are plenty of families that live and work in the farming industry. Anyway, farm kids learn more about life, the how and when, than most kids in the city and more than likely have more respect for life in general.
 
That's why my 11 year old has what he NEEDS provided by me but all the EXTRAS he wants he pays for by cutting grass or other odd jobs and saving his money then pays for them himself
 
You know, I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that I don't think today's younger generation understands that death is permanent.

Now I'm not condemning video games and movies altogether, but could they give youngsters a distorted view of death?
 
how bout this one

WAMPUM, Pa. (AP) -- An 11-year-old boy has been charged in the shotgun death of his father's pregnant girlfriend, who was found slain in a bedroom of her western Pennsylvania farmhouse, authorities said Saturday.

Jordan Brown was charged as an adult in the shooting death of Kenzie Marie Houk, who was 8 months pregnant, Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo said at a news conference.

Jordan, the son of Houk's live-in boyfriend, was charged with criminal homicide and criminal homicide of an unborn child, Bongivengo said.

Police said Houk's 4-year-old daughter found her mother's body Friday morning in a bedroom of their home in a wooded area in the community of Wampum. Houk's other daughter, who is 7 years old, later told police that Brown killed her mother, Bongivengo said.

Police said the boy had been arraigned in district court and placed in the county jail.

The home, located at the end of a half-mile-long driveway along a road scattered with abandoned and burned-out trailers, was cordoned off with yellow police tape and a Pennsylvania State Police vehicle was parked out front early Saturday afternoon. Next to the house was farm equipment and a barn filled with hay.

A neighbor, Cameron Tucker, said Houk was engaged and had been renting the house for no more than a year. Tucker said he had never met Houk's fiance, but that both of them had children.

"She was very protective of her kids," he said, adding that she seemed very excited about her pregnancy.

Tucker's wife sometimes drove Houk's daughter to the bus stop because she went to preschool with the Tuckers' 5-year-old.

WPXI-TV identified the dead woman's father as Jack Houk. There was no immediate response Saturday to a call by The Associated Press seeking comment from a Jack Houk of New Castle, a town next to Wampum.

A preliminary hearing is set for Thursday.

The rural community is about 35 miles northwest of Pittsburgh
 
I grew up in a little mid-western town of 640 people and moved back to the area last year after being away most of 37 years. Now I live in a big city of 2, 087 as one of my neighbors calls it. I swear more people even now know me or have heard of me here than most of the other places I've lived. It's like people I haven't seen in 40 years talk to me about about so and so that lived over there when we were growing up and still lives in the area more often than not. I remember driving home on back roads when I was 13 from a farm my dad worked on as my driver's education like a lot of other kids did then and still do. Hell, if they can drive a tractor they can drive a car. Anyway, I've been more or less on my own since I was 16 and I can tell you that requires growing up real fast. Some kids today (especially city kids) don't know jack about being adults and won't leave home unless you almost throw them out. If they do move out it's probably to college or more likely it's with someone else that can't make it on their on. It's pitiful.

I blame most of this on the parents. My son, who's 30 and living in Mass wanted to move out here with us after he lost his dime a dozen job last year. I told him to join the Army if he couldn't find another job. He found a good job and is doing better on his own now that we're gone than when we were there and he knew he always had a place to go as a fallback. Why take responsibility for yourself when you don't have to? I don't know but society has made it a lot harder on kids today than when we were growing up simply because we don't make them be responsible. Yeah, I'm including myself as part of the problem.
 
buckaroo said:
Just something to think about. Some time ago, this very subject came up with some co-workers. One man asked if anyone had heard of any children that lived on farms had committed suicide. It was a great question and though I'm sure there have been some, but as few as there are, any news like that would be almost non-existant. However, it got me to thinking about how different kids were that grew up on a farm than those kids that grew up in the city. In the larger population areas, I doubt that very many people even know of anyone who lives on a farm, but when you get into the farming country, especially the small communities, there are plenty of families that live and work in the farming industry. Anyway, farm kids learn more about life, the how and when, than most kids in the city and more than likely have more respect for life in general.
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I agree Buck, I grew up in the country , worked on a farm when I was in High School, and learned what hard work really was.
 
SlowNeasy said:
I grew up in a little mid-western town of 640 people and moved back to the area last year after being away most of 37 years. Now I live in a big city of 2, 087 as one of my neighbors calls it. I swear more people even now know me or have heard of me here than most of the other places I've lived. It's like people I haven't seen in 40 years talk to me about about so and so that lived over there when we were growing up and still lives in the area more often than not. I remember driving home on back roads when I was 13 from a farm my dad worked on as my driver's education like a lot of other kids did then and still do. Hell, if they can drive a tractor they can drive a car. Anyway, I've been more or less on my own since I was 16 and I can tell you that requires growing up real fast. Some kids today (especially city kids) don't know jack about being adults and won't leave home unless you almost throw them out. If they do move out it's probably to college or more likely it's with someone else that can't make it on their on. It's pitiful.

I blame most of this on the parents. My son, who's 30 and living in Mass wanted to move out here with us after he lost his dime a dozen job last year. I told him to join the Army if he couldn't find another job. He found a good job and is doing better on his own now that we're gone than when we were there and he knew he always had a place to go as a fallback. Why take responsibility for yourself when you don't have to? I don't know but society has made it a lot harder on kids today than when we were growing up simply because we don't make them be responsible. Yeah, I'm including myself as part of the problem.
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Very good points, I had to grow up quickly when I was a kid , learn to do for myself, and I was taught how to do that. A lot of Kids today aren't, but that isn't to say their parents aren't good parents. Kids are more sheltered because this is a much stranger world we live in than when I grew up back in the 60s and 70s. Today there are so many things that can be a bad influence on kids....it's crazy. I used to go out side and play every day after school, didn't matter how cold or crappy it was, I was outside for at least an hour with my dog. Now kids come home from school, turn on the TV, or X-Box, first thing they walk in the door. Not saying that X-Box, Playstaion or stuff like that does not have its' place (I own one and I'm almost 50) , but there comes a time when you need to teach your kid there is an OUTSIDE !!!
 
my 3 year old niece learned to shuck corn this harvest season, my wife says she is going to teach her the art of canning by the time she's 5
 
de7xwcc said:
my 3 year old niece learned to shuck corn this harvest season, my wife says she is going to teach her the art of canning by the time she's 5
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My grandfather had a 100 acre farm about 35 miles outside Houston while I was growing up. My mom would send me up for a couple weeks during the summer --- to make sure I learned what real work was.

Running after a headless chicken that was going to be Sunday dinner --- I can still smell wet feathers. :p

Pulling corn in August, then shucking it for the horses. De-horning cattle.

Working in my grandmother's vegetable garden.

At the age of 10, I decided college would be for me. I'm not sure I really knew what college was, but knew it had to better than the farm. LOL
 
Thanks for the replies. A little more info. This is a rural community, he worked on his families farm and drove a tractor before a car. He had build his own house on land owned by his family same as his brother did. He was working on a college degree. He was employed but I'm not sure what he did, my daughter says he wasn't lacking for money though. Active on both the vol fire dept as a LT and worked the rescue as he held a basic EMT license.

He had helped, along with others on the dept, when my daughter moved. Nice guy according to her. Shy.

Got into a agrument with his live-in girl friend of 5 years over a cell phone bill.
Took his shotgun into the woods behind his house. End of story.

<edit> TRL, that headless chicken you chased wasn't named BP was it? Just askin' :)
 
TexasRaceLady said:
My grandfather had a 100 acre farm about 35 miles outside Houston while I was growing up. My mom would send me up for a couple weeks during the summer --- to make sure I learned what real work was.

Running after a headless chicken that was going to be Sunday dinner --- I can still smell wet feathers. :p

Pulling corn in August, then shucking it for the horses. De-horning cattle.

Working in my grandmother's vegetable garden.

At the age of 10, I decided college would be for me. I'm not sure I really knew what college was, but knew it had to better than the farm. LOL
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you know i went to college got that degree and i truly wish i HAD stayed on the farm, now that i am getting older one of the most pleasurable things to me is getting in the garden and growing my own food and i can set and watch my chickens for hours, amazing how funny they are i can't wait to retire so i can get back there full time !!!
 
I grew up in a suburb, but there was a truck farm right behind our house. Can't tell you how big of a thrill it was for us when the farmer would come by, let us jump on his flatbed and bring us to pick beans for him. Gave us something like 5 cents a bushel. I loved it and wished he'd ask us more often. I was really sad when he sold that farm. My mom about freaked out when they were building apartments behind our house.

Things are different now than when I was a kid. I worked as soon as I could and got out of school early when I didn't have classes to go to work at a store across the street. Couldn't wait to work for my own $$$. My daughters did that too -- started with babysitting as soon as they could. My son started out good when he worked for our vet and was upset when it turned out to be seasonal - March until September.

Since then, all he wants to be is a "rock star." Since he's not in college anymore, told him to get a job and I don't care if he's sweeping floors..but get a job. Worst part is, it's hard to even get a job sweeping floors since so many people have lost jobs around here. It's driving me nuts because I want him to be a responsible human being.
 
BALTIMORE – Police said a 58-year-old man stabbed his teenage son after he refused to take off his hat at church earlier in the day. The father and his 19-year-old son got into an argument on Sunday afternoon. That's when police said the father went to a car, got a knife and stabbed his son in the left buttock and fled.

The son was taken to University of Maryland Medical Center for treatment. The father's name was withheld pending his arrest.
 
de7xwcc said:
you know i went to college got that degree and i truly wish i HAD stayed on the farm, now that i am getting older one of the most pleasurable things to me is getting in the garden and growing my own food and i can set and watch my chickens for hours, amazing how funny they are i can't wait to retire so i can get back there full time !!!
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Dont say Chickens in front of Kelloggs. You better be glad you are not her neighbor.:eek:
 
Kids today definitely do not respect human life like they should. I'm not sure there is any one glaring reason for it. Society has cheapened life with abortion being used as a contraceptive. You can even kill your baby when it is halfway out (partial birth abortion they call it). Obviously tv and movies have glamourized violence and murder more and more over the years. The music some of these kids listen to has them wanting to be "gangstas". The video games are rediculous.

It all just adds up to life meaning very little in their minds and therefore, taking a life seems to be no big deal.
 
Benevolent One said:
It all just adds up to life meaning very little in their minds and therefore, taking a life seems to be no big deal.
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I happens every summer here with Adults "forget" their kids are in the car and they bake to death in the summer heat and have yet to hear charges brought against them.Seems it's always ruled an accident.I just don't see how someone can forget and lock their kid in a car.
 
de7xwcc said:
she better not mess with my chickens !!!

they produce the best eggs i have ever eaten !!!!!
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My neighbor has chickens. (all kinds) He does not take care of them and does not feed them. They are/have ruining/ruined my back yard and making my mom sick. Mr. BB Gun is my favorite friend. LOL He has other animals he doesn't take care of either.
 
well i hope your eatin em' if this ahole is not caring for his animals you can PM me his name and address and i won't have a problem reporting him to the humane society i can't stand someone that neglects or abuses an animal
 
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