Yet another cookie-cutter track

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State lawmakers hope to snag NASCAR racetrack

By SARAH LINN, Associated Press Writer

February 27, 2004

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) -- State lawmakers are hoping to clear the way for construction of an 80,000-seat track aimed at attracting NASCAR events.

``It's an economic win for the state of Washington,'' Lt. Gov. Brad Owen told the Senate Economic Development Committee on Friday. ``We can wait and lose the opportunity, or we can continue to move forward in showing we have the best ground, the best crowds and the greatest opportunity.''

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International Speedway Corp., which owns Daytona International Speedway and 11 other tracks that host NASCAR events, is scouting 500- to 1,000-acre sites in Washington and Oregon for a $200 million-plus facility to stage Nextel Cup, Busch and Craftsman Truck series races.

Indy Racing League events also could be considered.

Earlier this month, a delegation of state officials, including Owen and Sen. Tim Sheldon, attended the Daytona 500 at the invitation of ISC officials. Both NASCAR and ISC are controlled by family of Bill France, who founded the stock car sanctioning body in 1948 and built the Daytona track in 1959.

A track in the Pacific Northwest would generate an estimated $227 million through construction contracts and $221 million in operations in the first year alone, said John Graham, vice president of Daytona Beach, Fla.-based ISC. Such racetracks also lead to construction of hotels, restaurants and other businesses, he said.

Construction of a track and other amenities would take about two years, Graham said. He also estimated that it would create 2,200 jobs in the construction industry.

ISC has been eyeing the Pacific Northwest for several years. The nearest NASCAR events are held at Infineon Raceway in northern California, and ISC's nearest track is California Speedway near Los Angeles.

Graham said ISC would model a facility in the Northwest after Kansas Speedway in Kansas City, Kan., a 1 1/2 -mile oval that opened in 2000.
 
Gotta love something I guess. B) Cookie cutter was made to make racing better, and It has somewhat. B) I just wonder, Is it seats or, the track that the big money guys care about? B)
 
Not good news.

How about a Richmond clone? Maybe even the old Atlanta. But another Kansas? Ugh.
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan@Mar 2 2004, 12:19 PM
Not good news.

How about a Richmond clone? Maybe even the old Atlanta. But another Kansas? Ugh.
agreed.Another road course would be great also,almost anything would be better than another cookie-cutter track except for another RP(YAWN) track :eek:
 
Why not a Rockingham clone? With planning they could put 80,000 seats around it.
 
they could put 200,000 around a rockingham, look at BMS it holds 160,000 and it's only a 1/2 mile track.
 
I'm not so sure it's all that easy to just add seats to a track. There's ordinances (city, county, state, and probably national), there's safety issues. Then once you surround a track with grand stands how do you get into it? There's parking, and other transportation issues. How about a highway system or road system to handle the traffic? And then there's also emergency infrastructure to be considered. Sometimes it just ain't as simple as it looks at first glance. :)

And that ain't even considering how much that all costs. You ain't going to get investors to fork over dollars to get all that done without some semblance of a return on investment. It's easier and most of the time much more economically feasible to start from ground up. And since that seems to be the way it's been going, you might be better advised to expand the sport by locating in a new area. Cookie cutters have a pretty much proven track record so your best hope on financing is to go that way.
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan@Mar 2 2004, 10:19 AM
Not good news.

How about a Richmond clone? Maybe even the old Atlanta. But another Kansas? Ugh.
Kansas is awesome, you may get old on the type of track, but thats not what I look at. I look at how exciting the racing is, and for me atleast racing at Kansas and other cookie cutters have just as good of racing as anywhere else. I wouldnt mind another short track or another super speedway, and I really dont think that we need many more tracks than what we have unless we start taking some races away from some racetracks. I think that NASCAR needs to spread out a little bit, and race only twice at Daytona at the begininning and the end of the year...and 1 race apiece during the middle of that at every track, so that everyone doesn't complain. That seems to be a fair way to fix things, IMO. :)
 
Originally posted by ward22@Mar 3 2004, 10:40 PM
I think that NASCAR needs to spread out a little bit, and race only twice at Daytona at the begininning and the end of the year...and 1 race apiece during the middle of that at every track, so that everyone doesn't complain. That seems to be a fair way to fix things, IMO. :)
That type of scheduling would be a great idea actually.

I just wish there were more short tracks and road courses on the schedule.
 
The two road course we have now are two too many! :D I could go with a couple more short tracks though.
 
They should make it simliar to Miami or maybe like a new design of a track. Maybe like a super short track like So Bo or something like Indy but with higher banks just something original please i cant take another 1.5 miler.
 
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