Problems in RCR stable?

This is something that Harvick said...

"I chose to reserve my comments yesterday after the race to give myself a cooling down period. I wanted to make sure the reason I was upset wasn't misunderstood or misinterpreted. The fact that we finished third doesn't bother me at all. I'm very proud of all my guys on the 29 car. They gave me an awesome car and had great stops all day. I did everything I could to put them where they deserved to be -- in victory lane."
 
Originally posted by HappyHour@Jun 24 2003, 07:44 PM
Just my two cents.....

But if it comes to RCR choosing between Harvick and Gordon, consider... Gordon has only won ONE race for Childress while Harvick has won several.. In Winston Cup that is.. couple that with Harvick's Busch championship and RC has a dilema.

No offence intended, but I for one don't think Robby's stock is particulary rising just because of his win at Sonoma. He has done well at Dega, and that will be the true test. But then again, so has Harvick.

All I'm saying is that if it's a true battle, we've got a lot of season yet to go to determine it.....
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Since when did it become the season that Childress has to choose either Robbie or Kevin? There would have to be something serious happen for Childress to choose. 2 drivers wanting to win really, really bad is not a reason to choose, I think it is a reason to keep them both. Robbie has a history of not getting along with a lot of people, but the only person he really needs to get along with is childress.

I'm a fan of RCR, but harvick is definately higher on my list. However, I give robbie credit for how hard he drives once in the car. Robbie is never going to be a guy that is good buddies with everyone in the garage.

I think Robbie can put this behind him and not let it affect his racing, and from the maturity that Harvick is showing I think he can do the same. Remember this is only the third year in Cup for Harvick and he has gone through a lot and grown a lot.
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan+Jun 24 2003, 08:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RobbyG Fan @ Jun 24 2003, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--17_Fan@Jun 24 2003, 09:55 PM

To be fair to Robby, he never competed in the Busch or CTS series.
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Once he did, in the truck series. The final race of the inaugural season. Finished 6th I believe. [/b][/quote]
I'll have to agree with you, because I'm not sure. But I meant that Robby never ran full time in either of those series, like Kevin did.
 
Originally posted by DirtyMo1381529+Jun 24 2003, 09:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DirtyMo1381529 @ Jun 24 2003, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -bud_stud@Jun 24 2003, 10:26 PM
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@Jun 24 2003, 04:07 PM
kevin thinks he's earnhardt.
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This has to be the most insane comment i've ever read...

Kevin is not Dale Sr, nor does he even claim to be. He gets in that car, and races the way he wants!!! Thats why Dale Sr picked Kevin to be his teammate for 2002... cause he admired the way Kevin drove his race cars!!!!!! Good lord son.. get a grip on racing.
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Didn't Dale want to hire harvick for DEI before Richard hired him? I thought I heard that somewhere before. [/b][/quote]
I've heard that too, but what I heard is that Dale told Richard if he didn't grab Kevin that He would for DEI.
 
Originally posted by DirtyMo1381529+Jun 24 2003, 09:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DirtyMo1381529 @ Jun 24 2003, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--RobbyG Fan@Jun 24 2003, 11:07 PM
Interestingly enough, the first driver Dale ever hired for DEI was Robby Gordon when Dale had just opened up DEI, Robby drove the truck race.  Funny how everything comes full circle.
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I thought that Dale first hired Jeff Green for the busch car he ran part time in? [/b][/quote]
Green was DEI's first driver. If Robby drove the #3 truck in the CTS???? That would have been a RCR truck, but I don't remember anybody in that truck other than Mike Skinner & then Jay Sauter. What # did DEI use for Robby?
 
Here is an excerpt from Robby's site:

1996 Competed in late-season NASCAR Winston Cup events at North Carolina Speedway and Phoenix International Raceway for Sabates, and at Lowe's Motor Speedway for Dale Earnhardt, Inc., after joining Team SABCO in August.
 
Originally posted by 17_Fan@Jun 25 2003, 11:03 PM
Green was DEI's first driver. If Robby drove the #3 truck in the CTS???? That would have been a RCR truck, but I don't remember anybody in that truck other than Mike Skinner & then Jay Sauter. What # did DEI use for Robby?
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Dale didn't own the Goodwrench truck, Dale owned the 16 that Hornaday drove
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan@Jun 25 2003, 11:23 PM
Here is an excerpt from Robby's site:

1996 Competed in late-season NASCAR Winston Cup events at North Carolina Speedway and Phoenix International Raceway for Sabates, and at Lowe's Motor Speedway for Dale Earnhardt, Inc., after joining Team SABCO in August.
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Was that the Burger King car that Steve also drove in for a few races in '97?
 
Originally posted by DirtyMo1381529+Jun 25 2003, 09:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DirtyMo1381529 @ Jun 25 2003, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--17_Fan@Jun 25 2003, 11:03 PM
Green was DEI's first driver.&nbsp; If Robby drove the #3 truck in the CTS????&nbsp; That would have been a RCR truck, but I don't remember anybody in that truck other than Mike Skinner & then Jay Sauter.&nbsp; What # did DEI use for Robby?
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Dale didn't own the Goodwrench truck, Dale owned the 16 that Hornaday drove [/b][/quote]
I knew that the #3 was a RCR truck, but I did forget about Dale owning the #16 truck.
 
Official Race Results

CarQuest 420K | Las Vegas Motor Speedway

November 3, 1996 | Race 24 of 24

1 3 #24 Jack Sprague Chevrolet Quaker State 180/0 175 Running $79,825
2 13 #4 Bill Elliott Ford Team ASE Racing 170/0 175 Running $61,750
3 2 #80 Joe Ruttman Ford LCI Telecommunications 165/0 175 Running $36,600
4 27 #1 Michael Waltrip Ford MW Windows 160/0 175 Running $25,350
5 23 #7 Dave Rezendes Ford QVC 155/0 175 Running $21,350
6 16 #18 Robby Gordon Chevrolet Roehrig Engineering 150/0 175 Running $16,300
7 5 #3 Mike Skinner Chevrolet GM Goodwrench Service 146/0 175 Running $17,025
8 26 #17 Ken Schrader Chevrolet Sears Diehard 142/0 175 Running $14,000
9 1 #44 Bryan Reffner* Ford 1-800-COLLECT 138/0 175 Running $15,550
10 18 #16 Ron Hornaday Chevrolet NAPA Brake Parts 134/0 175 Running $13,250


OK...I think I got it. Robby was in the last CTS race of 1996 & drove once for DEI, either in the Busch or WC before Jeff Green was in the DEI car in the Busch series?
 
I dont remember exactly. I do remember hearing from another Robby fan who told me the story. Supposedly Mike Skinner drove for RCR in the trucks, and Ron Hornaday drove for DEI in the trucks. Dale put Robby in a 2nd DEI truck for the season finale. Robby finished in 6th I believe, but he got into an incident with either Hornaday or Skinner and it eventually caused one of them to loose the championship, because it was a season ending event.

I dont remember who it was that Robby got into an incident with, but regardless I do know that Dale admired Robby a lot. The two times that Robby has competed in IROC he finished 2nd in the final points standings, right behind Dale both years.
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan@Jun 25 2003, 09:42 PM
I dont remember exactly.&nbsp; I do remember hearing from another Robby fan who told me the story.&nbsp; Supposedly Mike Skinner drove for RCR in the trucks, and Ron Hornaday drove for DEI in the trucks.&nbsp; Dale put Robby in a 2nd DEI truck for the season finale.&nbsp; Robby finished in 6th I believe, but he got into an incident with either Hornaday or Skinner and it eventually caused one of them to loose the championship, because it was a season ending event.

I dont remember who it was that Robby got into an incident with, but regardless I do know that Dale admired Robby a lot.&nbsp; The two times that Robby has competed in IROC he finished 2nd in the final points standings, right behind Dale both years.
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It's hard to tell since Skinner & Hornaday both finished on the lead lap. Hornaday won the championship that year & I'm checking to see what the point spread was.
 
1996 Official Driver Standings

After: CarQuest 420K | Las Vegas Motor Speedway| Race 24 of 24


1 NA Ron Hornaday 3831 Leader 24 4 18 23 $384,950
2 NA Jack Sprague 3778 -53 24 5 18 21 $465,545
3 NA Mike Skinner 3771 -60 24 8 17 20 $489,885
4 NA Joe Ruttman 3275 -556 24 0 7 16 $195,450
5 NA Mike Bliss 3190 -641 24 2 9 11 $269,125

Don't think any incident cost Skinner the championship in 1996, since Mike could have only gained 34 points by winning. Doesn't look like they gave bonus points back then. I didn't watch much of the CTS back then.
 
Great stuff researching this 17 Fan! Really appreciate it and its pretty interesting too.

Im thinking its more of Robby caused Skinner 2nd place in the standings. I think if Robby would have let Skinner pass he wouldve ended 2nd in points instead of 3rd, but Robby never let Skinner pass.
 
I had to change one of my posts...I said Skinner won the championship in 1996, because I knew he won the 1st CTS championship...but when I went to look for the results...remembered the 1st year that the CTS ran was in 1995! :wacko:
 
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