Fate of Truck Series

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Just curious...


Where do you guys see the truck series 10 years from now?

Will it still be around? Will it be gone?

Gained any popularity back? Even less popular?
 
With the Xfinity series being a test for cup, I think you will still have the Truck series as a short test for drivers. JGR uses Xfinity for their cup drivers and they support Kyle's Truck team to find new drivers and it works. Team Penske has a similar arrangement with Brad K. I suspect other teams will follow suit. However I have another question. With most of the top cup drivers being in their 20"s soon will they keep driver development?
Who takes over HMS, Jeff Gordon?
 
Depends on how much longer teams can afford to race and lose money. Brad K is already on record saying his team loses a few million each year. That's why Harvick got out a few years ago.
 
The way Nascar currently operates is still the same as during the boom times so something will have to give. IMO trucks and X will need to merge or one of them will need to go away as the demand for product is not present and from what I understand both series are money losers for the main combatants.
 
Does the France family fund teams in the Trucks to make sure there are not 13 trucks?
 
MRM said:
Depends on how much longer teams can afford to race and lose money. Brad K is already on record saying his team loses a few million each year. That's why Harvick got out a few years ago.
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Brad K loses millions along with Kyle Damn Busch. The Nemechek's continue to put winning trucks on the track. There it is right there, a tiny team can be competitive if they watch their P's and Q's and have a driver. Seems like the mega teams have a few buy your ride drivers on the roster and they might not be charging them enough.;) After years of watching Keselowski, he finally has a driver in Chase Briscoe. I believe that is the key if you want to be a mega team, you have to find hungry good drivers. On the other side, I love that it is possible to be good with a one truck team.
 
Trucks are the best thing racing wise NASCAR has right now. Axe xfinity before trucks.


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StandOnIt said:
Brad K loses millions along with Kyle Damn Busch. The Nemechek's continue to put winning trucks on the track. There it is right there, a tiny team can be competitive if they watch their P's and Q's and have a driver. Seems like the mega teams have a few buy your ride drivers on the roster and they might not be charging them enough.;) After years of watching Keselowski, he finally has a driver in Chase Briscoe. I believe that is the key if you want to be a mega team, you have to find hungry good drivers. On the other side, I love that it is possible to be good with a one truck team.
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Ummmm....... Kez had that Blaney feller for awhile.
 
Blaney was 3 years ago, the year of Kyle Damn Busch and Bubba Wallace running cheated up trucks in the series paying the fines and laughing about it.
 
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My apologies Good Sir. You stated that you had watched Kez "for years". I just figured that meant more than two. My bad.
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yeah Thanks for the painful reminder. Blaney came in second behind Crafton. But what was frustrating was watching the KBM stuff winning races and being illegal doing it. IMO it screwed up the championship. I'm not a statistician but it looks like Wallace would have won if he wasn't penalized, but like a cupwacker he took wins away from the series FWIW.Kyle was doing the same thing.
races wins top5 top10
1.Crafton 22 2 13 17
2.Blaney 22 1 12 17
3.Wallace 22 4 9 14
 
StandOnIt said:
Blaney was 3 years ago, the year of Kyle Damn Busch and Bubba Wallace running cheated up trucks in the series paying the fines and laughing about it.
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Did Eric Jones win that championship in a " cheated up Kyle Damned Busch" truck ?
 
I like to watch the Trucks sometimes but they've got to find ways to put them on different tracks still. Iowa, Gateway, Mosport, Eldora are all cool and fun but they still have too many events on the big tracks and I don't think your third tier of racing should be so dependent upon engine and aero.
 
I'm not that over the top get him a cup ride now on Nemo, he was like a dart with feathers last year and at the start of this year. Only recently has he apparently been using his head. He needs to win the series or at least come in close to the top. I hope he does settle down and keep the streak going.
 
StandOnIt said:
Jones and Byron ran pretty clean in KBM stuff. Shame Byron's truck exploded and he lost the mickey mouse chase with 6 wins that year.
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Allowing Mickey to become involved with a racing series was a bad mistake :booya: its gonna leave a mark
 
FLRacingFan said:
I like to watch the Trucks sometimes but they've got to find ways to put them on different tracks still. Iowa, Gateway, Mosport, Eldora are all cool and fun but they still have too many events on the big tracks and I don't think your third tier of racing should be so dependent upon engine and aero.
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on the one hand the trucks look stupid and cool when running on the larger tracks to me anyway. Double edged sword, they have let them have so much aero improvements they look like disney characters of pick up trucks. They should be on a mile or less tracks and should represent Nascar on short tracks series. Nascar tries to make everything race on every kind of track. Trucks shouldn't have to spend much time in the wind tunnel if any.
 
I do feel like the Trucks could have more over their own identity. Looks bad racing at these big tracks with no one in the stands every week. Let them race more dirt tracks and smaller tracks to make the atmosphere around the track look better. That said I still think they should accompany the Cup and Xfinity series for triple header weekends. Should be more Xfinity/Trucks standalone weekends as well.

Feel the same way about the Trucks as I do Xfinity with Cup drivers. Should be only 7 races in tbe trucks that involve Cup drivers. Daytona, Martinsville, Charlotte, Kentucky, Pocono, Bristol, and Chicagoland would be 7 races before the playoff that has Cup participation. That would make 9 stand alone events in the regular season that could go to different tracks. I'd keep them with the Cup series for the playoffs though with no Cup participation even from guys under 5 years experience.
 
If they made the trucks a short track series, make them run a stock truck shell, they don't need the aero improvements to run safe. The stuff they are running isn't close to what is on the street.
 
StandOnIt said:
on the one hand the trucks look stupid and cool when running on the larger tracks to me anyway. Double edged sword, they have let them have so much aero improvements they look like disney characters of pick up trucks. They should be on a mile or less tracks and should represent Nascar on short tracks series. Nascar tries to make everything race on every kind of track. Trucks shouldn't have to spend much time in the wind tunnel if any.
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There are enough K&N Pro East/West events for the Trucks to accompany if they decide to go that route, and running alongside ARCA for some companion events probably wouldn't be a bad idea either. That might make it more difficult for FOX to televise live which I'm sure is a factor. But I think at some point it's going to have to be a serious discussion.
 
MRM said:
Depends on how much longer teams can afford to race and lose money. Brad K is already on record saying his team loses a few million each year. That's why Harvick got out a few years ago.
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I agree with this. I was of the mind that Trucks should go to stand alone events at markets/tracks that Cup/Xfinity dont currently go to. But I am not so sure that attendance would sustain it.
 
FLRacingFan said:
There are enough K&N Pro East/West events for the Trucks to accompany if they decide to go that route, and running alongside ARCA for some companion events probably wouldn't be a bad idea either. That might make it more difficult for FOX to televise live which I'm sure is a factor. But I think at some point it's going to have to be a serious discussion.
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I like that idea as I think I would like to watch the truck series if they raced primarily on short tracks and having companion events would be great for those in the stands and I would like it from my seat at home.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the OP is a NASCAR exec, or a member of the press. All the threads ask for opinions, (Nothing wrong with that.) and give very little of their own opinion. Maybe looking for new ideas? To answer the question, I see the trucks being about what they are now. Most people that watch them, are usually watching for that young talent, that has come into NASCAR without the hype. Most NASCAR fans don't watch with an eye toward the future, until the media starts hyping drivers. (JHN comes to mind.) As long as there are veterans in the series, like Matt Crafton, the series will do just fine. Those are the drivers the young guys learn from, not the cup interlopers.
 
The trucks should be almost entirely short tracks, the Xfinity should be a mix of a little short track, more intermediate and the larger plate tracks. The age limit should be lower for the trucks, some of these kids are 14, 15 and they can drive the heck out of a race car.
 
Asking what to do with the truck series and where it should run is moot and pointless exercise.
As long as France/Nascar/ISC control all the race dates and own the tracks and get the majority of the TV money nothing will ever change.
The series will die before something ever changes, and by then the Frances will have made their money and milked the cow dry.
The victims will be the team owners stuck with trucks and nowhere to race or to race for peanuts.
 
Get rid of Xfinity and have Trucks be the secondary series. There already is a four door sedan series and that's Cup. Trucks fill a different niche and the difference between the two might discourage Cuppers from dropping down.
 
StandOnIt said:
The trucks should be almost entirely short tracks, the Xfinity should be a mix of a little short track, more intermediate and the larger plate tracks. The age limit should be lower for the trucks, some of these kids are 14, 15 and they can drive the heck out of a race car.
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When Chase E. was in this age bracket, we saw him beat handily 30 and 40 yr olders in Late models.
Just blows my mind that a human(brain) at that young age can perform at those speeds that early.

The more NASCAR can do double headers with Trucks and Xfinity, the better.
 
Gordon did the same thing years earlier.
2 Sweet said:
Everyone saying the trucks should run more short tracks. That's how it all started. Look at the first year of the truck series...

http://racing-reference.info/raceyear/1995/C

"18 races on paved tracks
2 races on road courses

15 short track races
3 superspeedway races"

75% of the races were on short tracks
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Yeah it wasn't anything new that I posted. That was what the truck series was all about. But back in the boom time it moved to the larger tracks, more money bigger crowds etc. It used to be called the Craftsman Truck series. Craftsman dropped out and is sponsoring the World of Outlaws a short track dirt series now. They(Nascar) have the old formulas that worked back in the day to go back to something similar.
 
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