2025 IndyCar News / Misc

kkfan91 said:
Indy has just been eye balling cars this whole time?
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They have a bunch of different tools and templates they use to manually measure dimensions and perform pass/fail tests. Certainly being able to scan the cars will streamline processes and analyze/store/output at a greater level of detail.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Sounds like it.
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Just seems odd for a series that at least seems to present itself as higher technologically compared to NASCAR.

I'd assume its mostly cause $$$ hasn't always been there in open wheel over the last 30 years.
 
kkfan91 said:
Just seems odd for a series that at least seems to present itself as higher technologically compared to NASCAR.
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I don’t know that anyone has actually done this Champ Car finally went under. There’s been a spec chassis for two decades, with a spec or tightly-controlled engine formula and spec aero kit for the vast majority of that time as well. Pretty much the only differentiating factors from NASCAR now are open damper development and hybrids.

If anything, I think the series and its fans try to contrast it with F1 with regard to technology. Which is a questionable way to market yourself.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I don’t know that anyone has actually done this Champ Car finally went under. There’s been a spec chassis for two decades, with a spec or tightly-controlled engine formula and spec aero kit for the vast majority of that time as well. Pretty much the only differentiating factors from NASCAR now are open damper development and hybrids.

If anything, I think the series and its fans try to contrast it with F1 with regard to technology. Which is a questionable way to market yourself.
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Must be the steering wheel. Do all of those buttons work?
 
StandOnIt said:
Must be the steering wheel. Do all of those buttons work?
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kkfan91 said:
Fewer cars is never the solution
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rd45usa said:
I agree, but I think Zak is looking at less teams the more a franchise is worth.
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Likewise. Especially after all the time and effort the series has collectively spent in attracting new entrants and building a strong, stable grid.

I think their expectation, though, is that there will be some natural attrition whenever the new chassis (lol) debuts, and the ‘problem’ will kinda fix itself.
 
rd45usa said:
I think to take a wait see what Honda does.
racer.com

IndyCar shifts new car to 2028 | RACER

The IndyCar Series is formally shifting its new chassis and engine introduction from 2027 to 2028.
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I honestly don’t understand how Mark Miles is still employed. When Penske appointed him to lead the steering committee it felt like that was the last straw for any hope of getting this thing out in a timely manner.
 
We've had so much good racing I don't see the hurry to replace a car that's working. They could clean up the turbulence since we have to live with it for two more years, but any new car is probably just going to be an evolution anyway.
 
I'd like to see what Chip said, regulations for teams to decide hybrid or no hybrid for the teams to choose themselves, best of both worlds.
 
Doc Austin said:
We've had so much good racing I don't see the hurry to replace a car that's working. They could clean up the turbulence since we have to live with it for two more years, but any new car is probably just going to be an evolution anyway.
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The base chassis has been around so long and had so much stuff Frankenstein’d on to it that it’s pretty much at its breaking point. It needs a wholesale redesign to more seamlessly integrate stuff it was never designed for, like the aeroscreen and the hybrid componentry, and just needs to shed a lot of weight.

It would seem to me to be a tail wagging the dog scenario where they have to design the car around the powerplant it’ll use, but they say they already have the car itself designed and in the wind tunnel. Seems kinda confusing that they wouldn’t have the engine specs locked down yet.

Maybe the most interesting part of the story was a reference to Nissan being interested in joining. Toyota and Porsche have kicked the tires around in an IndyCar program for several years now but no one has credibly mentioned Nissan until now.
 
rd45usa said:
I'd like to see what Chip said, regulations for teams to decide hybrid or no hybrid for the teams to choose themselves, best of both worlds.
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The most frustrating thing for the series itself and a lot of the other stakeholders in the paddock has to be that Honda were by far the biggest proponents for introducing a hybrid and now they’re holding the series hostage. Imagine they made all the teams spend all the extra money to retrofit the chassis and then on the hybrid components themselves, just to dip a couple of years later…
 
FLRacingFan said:
Maybe the most interesting part of the story was a reference to Nissan being interested in joining. Toyota and Porsche have kicked the tires around in an IndyCar program for several years now but no one has credibly mentioned Nissan until now.
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And that's how over 15 years later the Delta Wing finally debuted in Indycar...
 
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