2024 Next Gen Car

MRM said:
That happens in racing all the time. Look at all the Gen6 cars and parts teams unloaded when the Gen7 car started being used.
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How many years use did teams use the Gen 6 configuration?

Where might all the Gen 7 brake packages, single lug hubs and wheels be unloaded?
 
aunty dive said:
Where might all the Gen 7 brake packages, single lug hubs and wheels be unloaded?
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For that matter, where do Gen7 cars go when a team wants to get rid of one? No one else can race it, each team only needs a limited number of show cars, and Jr. has a limited amount of graveyard space. Do they just get tossed in the recycle bin?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
For that matter, where do Gen7 cars go when a team wants to get rid of one? No one else can race it, each team only needs a limited number of show cars, and Jr. has a limited amount of graveyard space. Do they just get tossed in the recycle bin?
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The damaged chassis pieces are sent back and fixed by the manufacturer. Pretty much everything else is about the same..see Hendrick auction of old speed/racing parts.
 
aunty dive said:
How much money have Goodyear and the teams spent developing the 18” tire and current brake packages?

So … just toss all the data and start over? So easy to spend other people’s money.
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Well you can fix the problem or continue to have it. If spending money fixes the problem it seems pretty easy.
 
Written 23 years ago back when cars and racing was wonderful to hear some tell it. High H.P. full of thrills and spills it was...not. A few of us remember the single file racing and Jaque Debris.

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StandOnIt said:
Written 23 years ago back when cars and racing was wonderful to hear some tell it. High H.P. full of thrills and spills it was...not. A few of us remember the single file racing and Jaque Debris.

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Thank you for this. Fully agree. I think the car is fantastic on 1.5 Mile+ tracks, it’s just too difficult to pass on the short tracks and road courses. Those have always been track position type of tracks, but anymore lap cars can legitimately block the leaders
 
Mispeedway15 said:
Thank you for this. Fully agree. I think the car is fantastic on 1.5 Mile+ tracks, it’s just too difficult to pass on the short tracks and road courses. Those have always been track position type of tracks, but anymore lap cars can legitimately block the leaders
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There were 11 Lead changes and over 2400 passes under green at Watkins Glen last year. I beg to differ.
I think the reason for less passing at short tracks is because the car is so good there. The old style with small brakes and truck arms for suspension was harder to drive so drivers made more mistakes leading to more passes.
 
As others have pointed out, there's more parity across the field than there was 'back in the day'. It's debatable how much of it is due to an overall improvement in driver skills vs. NASCAR forcing a balance of performance vs. mandatory cautions, but you don't see drivers leaving the whole field laps behind.
 
Remembering "the days" from yesteryear. From the article above, the car had too much downforce. Then they went to a less downforce car, then they tried more horsepower more downforce, then back to less horsepower less downforce, people were leaving the sport in droves. Now many are saying those were the days lol.
Maybe it's an indication of a mass exodus to come. Unlike stick n ball, they can't fire the coach whenever the fans demand it so maybe many will hit the road to more interesting places for them. Good riddance.
 
The cars from the mid to late 90's where the best because the noses weren't a foot off the ground and the valance wasn't dragging the track. The 2000 fall race at Charlotte was one of the best races I've seen. I think there were over 40 lead changes and passing all over the place.
 
Aero has been around since Junior Johnson figured out the "Slingshot" move. Aero will always be a part of Nascar. Heck, I'd be happy if they could get rid of stuck cars with four flats.
 
rd45usa said:
Aero has been around since Junior Johnson figured out the "Slingshot" move. Aero will always be a part of Nascar. Heck, I'd be happy if they could get rid of stuck cars with four flats.
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A car with 4 flats is pretty much stuck anywhere. There is no doubt in my mind Nascar and the owners are going to make some changes to the car for next year. . They do it every year.
 
Many fans don't realize it isn't the early 2000's anymore. This joker isn't going back in the bottle, war rooms aren't going away either.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
For that matter, where do Gen7 cars go when a team wants to get rid of one? No one else can race it, each team only needs a limited number of show cars, and Jr. has a limited amount of graveyard space. Do they just get tossed in the recycle bin?
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Jr might have to invest in an island. Probably cheaper than a charter. :XXROFL:
 
Kyle forgot the Chevy truck arms from the 70's that was the car's rear suspension to go along with the carburetors.
 
Big John Kordic said:
And when, this, happens again, they’ll all wonder and people will wring hands.

IMO, as long as the underbody stays flat as a pancake, cars are going to go over, no matter how many butterfly wings they add.
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Under belly was pretty flat before, teams spent millions streamlining the undersides, tried to keep other teams from looking. The underbody does the opposite, it creates down force.
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Charlie Spencer said:
Again, don't apply the extra horsepower based on which tracks are or aren't 'short'. Just apply it on the tracks where it makes sense regardless of their comparative lengths.
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Short tracks are the easiest. The speeds aren't a problem and hopefully Goodyear can keep up with the tires.
 
StandOnIt said:
Under belly was pretty flat before, teams spent millions streamlining the undersides, tried to keep other teams from looking. The underbody does the opposite, it creates down force.
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I don’t recall how flat they were prior to this gen, TBH I never paid much attention to it? I just remember this car having the entire underside flat/sealed, an old IMSA GTP car was my first thought upon seeing it.

Yes, its design sucks it to the pavement, so long as it’s going forward. The roof flaps work, work very well, we’ve all seen replays of cars heading for a flip and dropping back down because of them. That being said, once a car gets off the ground enough…no flappers are going to keep it down.
 
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