The saga of Kyle Bush.

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Joe Gibbs Racing (JGR)​

≈ $116.09 million in sponsor revenue

Richard Childress Racing (RCR)​

≈ $70–75 million
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Separate the owners from the race teams. Childress has other businesses he makes a living off; I don't know about GIbbs. But personal status aside, I have no doubt the JGR rscing organization has more income and working capital than the RCR team.
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Gibbs' only business is his race team....and is a four car team. I am not sure why Gibbs would be considered so much better off in a relative sense.
 
BarneyB1 said:
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Joe Gibbs Racing (JGR)​

≈ $116.09 million in sponsor revenue

Richard Childress Racing (RCR)​

≈ $70–75 million
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Four cars vs. two....29.03 million per car vs. 39.5 million? Looks like Poor Richard is okay. Maybe I am over simplifying this?
 
BarneyB1 said:
The following is from sportspro.com

Joe Gibbs Racing (JGR)​

≈ $116.09 million in sponsor revenue

Richard Childress Racing (RCR)​

≈ $70–75 million
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I would have to think this includes the whole organization. There's no was he getting $35 mil a year per cup car and running like that......
 
Revman said:
Four cars vs. two....29.03 million per car vs. 39.5 million? Looks like Poor Richard is okay. Maybe I am over simplifying this?
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You're overlooking common overhead costs. Those can't be split up evenly on a car-by-car basis, and they aren't going to be the same between team organizations. You're also overlooking cash on hand and other liquid capital assets.

And JGR may just do a better job of managing their organization financially. That doesn't make it a company with more money but it makes it more profitable / less unprofitable, leaving more on the books.
 
wi_racefan said:
I would have to think this includes the whole organization. There's no was he getting $35 mil a year per cup car and running like that......
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For sure, but it's all relative, right? Poor Richard wants the narrative out there that he is just a blue collar guy trying to find meal money in NASCAR. He is just fine. The team sucks. I don't think this is about money.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
You're overlooking common overhead costs. Those can't be split up evenly on a car-by-car basis. You're also overlooking cash on hand and other liquid capital assets.

And JGR may just do a better job of managing their organization financially. That doesn't make it a company with more money but it makes it more profitable / less unprofitable.
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Sure, but that is a RCR thing. The argument is that JGR has more money. I doubt that. This isn't a Chain Gang thing where The Felon has his paws in lots of different revenue sources, right? I hate money. Just throwing that out there.
 
Revman said:
For sure, but it's all relative, right? Poor Richard wants the narrative out there that he is just a blue collar guy trying to find meal money in NASCAR. He is just fine. The team sucks. I don't think this is about money.
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So you're claiming he's pulling 35 mil a car and just pocketing the money????
 
Kyle Busch insists that he is not washed and that is fine for him to say all that, but the bottom line is he is still not putting up quality performances each week. He can blame it one the cars which might be sh!t, but what I wonder is in the future if he gets another ride and he still sucks what will be his excuse then?
 
Goggles Paisano said:
Kyle Busch insists that he is not washed and that is fine for him to say all that, but the bottom line is he is still not putting up quality performances each week. He can blame it one the cars which might be sh!t, but what I wonder is in the future if he gets another ride and he still sucks what will be his excuse then?
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2 races in the Trucks with a first in one and was contending in the other. His car off the trailer was as much as 8 seconds slower than the leader in practice. Numbers don't lie. Lost his brakes at Kansas.
 
StandOnIt said:
2 races in the Trucks with a first in one and was contending in the other. His car off the trailer was as much as 8 seconds slower than the leader in practice. Numbers don't lie. Lost his brakes at Kansas.
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I hope he isn't washed. He is a future Hall of Famer and when he is racing for a win that makes for exciting racing.
 
Goggles Paisano said:
I hope he isn't washed. He is a future Hall of Famer and when he is racing for a win that makes for exciting racing.
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Track champion at Millbridge last year, did very well at the Chili Bowl.
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StandOnIt said:
Track champion at Millbridge last year, did very well at the Chili Bowl.
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lets be so fr, a dirt track championship shouldnt be something to say busch isnt washed.... hes a 2 time cup champion with 63 wins, does uncle jim that works a 9-5 to fund him racing on this track stand any chance over busch?
 
Willowisherself said:
lets be so fr, a dirt track championship shouldnt be something to say busch isnt washed.... hes a 2 time cup champion with 63 wins, does uncle jim that works a 9-5 to fund him racing on this track stand any chance over busch?
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I suppose when Larson won the Chili Bowl he said it was the biggest win of his career he was lying right?
That's your opinion. I don't think he is as good as his heyday, his record overall is tons better than Hamlin, but to think all of a sudden he's junk? He is winning races in all kinds of race cars dirt and pavement all over the place last season. The common denominator? None of them were RCR cars.
 
StandOnIt said:
I suppose when Larson won the Chili Bowl he said it was the biggest win of his career he was lying right?
That's your opinion. I don't think he is as good as his heyday, his record overall is tons better than Hamlin, but to think all of a sudden he's junk? He is winning races in all kinds of race cars dirt and pavement all over the place last season. The common denominator? None of them were RCR cars.
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I DONT EVEN THINK LARSON SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN NASCAR RN, I DONT CARE.

this has always been my opinion about larson btw. i find it crazy NASCAR allowed a guy who said a ****** slur back.

Same reason why i think the dye bs is stupid, to a lesser degree of course.


anyways, back to busch, yeah, you can win on dirt all you can, and win at local short tracks, but if you cant even crack top 20 in your main series most races, despite winning in it 63 TIMES, imma call you washed
 
Willowisherself said:
I'm not, i have a lot of issues.... BUT SAYING SLURS (well slurs i myself cant say) ISNT ONE OF THEM.
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Larson lost his job, lost his sponsor, went to various programs, made restitution, still does. Now what do you suggest? Frankly I think you are way off base and some inner work is needed with your prejudicial views. kinda of the pot calling the kettle if you know what I mean. Sure it was wrong, sure it was racial and it is all I can do to not point out what horrific events in that area has happened since Larson in the good ol' U.S. of A.
 
Kyle's talent level might not be what it used to be, but I can guarantee he could beat anyone on this forum if had to drive with an eye patch on one eye and oven mitts on both hands.
 
A good example would be Chase Briscoe if it was the other way around similar to Kyle, Briscoe leaves JGR and drives for the old SHR...washed up is he? I think not.
 
StandOnIt said:
A good example would be Chase Briscoe if it was the other way around similar to Kyle, Briscoe leaves JGR and drives for the old SHR...washed up is he? I think not.
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No different than the Amigo this year. They talked about it on the Teardown this week. He even admitted he's not doing anything different this year, the cars are just faster. Harvick always said you can't drive a slow car fast.
 
Willowisherself said:
I'm not, i have a lot of issues.... BUT SAYING SLURS (well slurs i myself cant say) ISNT ONE OF THEM.
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Are you suggesting there are slurs you CAN say? If so, that is a big part of the problem, and I caught a LOT of grief over it here when the Larson incident happened. Rules for thee, but not for me. As far as I'm concerned, if someone else can't say something, then neither can you.
 
Formerjackman said:
Are you suggesting there are slurs you CAN say? If so, that is a big part of the problem, and I caught a LOT of grief over it here when the Larson incident happened. Rules for thee, but not for me. As far as I'm concerned, if someone else can't say something, then neither can you.
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.... yes....... oh wait you haven't seen me.... Hi, I am autistic and a transbian.

I can say some slurs lol.

the issues isn't about people saying slurs, its people that don't get the hardship and the hell that comes with those words saying it. I.e, why Larson is an issue. I wouldn't want somebody who wasn't gay to say f@g, somebody who wasn't autistic to say ret@rd, and somebody who isn't trans saying tr@nny
 
Willowisherself said:
.... yes....... oh wait you haven't seen me.... Hi, I am autistic and a transbian.

I can say some slurs lol.

the issues isn't about people saying slurs, its people that don't get the hardship and the hell that comes with those words saying it. I.e, why Larson is an issue. I wouldn't want somebody who wasn't gay to say f@g, somebody who wasn't autistic to say ret@rd, and somebody who isn't trans saying tr@nny
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So both Larson and recently Daniel Dye lost their jobs immediately and had to attend Nascar's program to deal with it. Once again I ask, what do you suggest Nascar do?
 
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