Jorge De Guzman
RESIDENT NASCAR STATESMAN and/or REGIONIONALIST.
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Lajoie could get a hot dog wrapper on the grille next April and KDB won't be beyond a reasonable doubt.if he wants to create any reasonable doubt.
Wonder if he is heading to Mexico....I am guessing, "No."I hope Kyle enjoys his vacation the next two weeks, god knows he could use one after the last 8 races he's had. I cant remember a time where theres been a worst stretch for a driver.
You have been consistent with this....and you are not wrong to this point. IF JGR passively/aggressively dumped him (and there is proof using Kyle's own words to the contrary....but there was that with Visser and the JGR alliance as well...hat didn't fit the narrative for some either), then it was a great move, wasn't it? The potential of Ty would seem to exceed what is left in the tank for Kyle IMO.All of the greats have a fall from grace. Except for Jeff Gordon lol.
Kyle Busch's fall from grace started in 2019, but people refused to see it. But we are smack dab in the middle of it now.
At this point in his career I don't know what would be more of a surprise. If he wins again or if he never wins again.
I appreciate any OEM loyalty....even if it is misguided.
Oh, I thought you were going to come up with a picture of a 69 yagouchiama or something.I appreciate any OEM loyalty....even if it is misguided.
You have been consistent with this....and you are not wrong to this point. IF JGR passively/aggressively dumped him (and there is proof using Kyle's own words to the contrary....but there was that with Visser and the JGR alliance as well...hat didn't fit the narrative for some either), then it was a great move, wasn't it? The potential of Ty would seem to exceed what is left in the tank for Kyle IMO.
Jimmie Johnson was allowed to retire on his own at Hendrick. Completely different way that Kyle Busch was treated.I've always felt Kyle Busch's mileage moreso correlated with the "prime" bellcurve than his age. His 2019 season was his 15th career cup season. For reference, Jimmie Johnson's 15th season was 2016, and he fell off after that as well.
KB started 2019 great, but then he went through a major spell, and outside of his 2019 championship race, he had arguably the longest dry spell of his career. You're right, I've touted this for a while and thought his decline started in 2019.
Media and fandom started predicting Kyle Busch would push Gordon's win and championship total after his 2019 campaign, the same way we touted Johnson as the driver to both eclipse 7 titles and 100 wins.
It just never came to fruition. People didn't see it because KB was young, but as far as cup starts alone go (nvm Trucks and Xfinity) his mileage was that of an old timer.
He's been out of his prime for 5 years.
JJ successfully transitioned from one major sponsor to another. Kyle had the question of who would step up after M&Ms.Jimmie Johnson was allowed to retire on his own at Hendrick. Completely different way that Kyle Busch was treated.
You think Jimmie Johnson did that? It was Rick Hendrick. Hendrick is an owner with a capital O, Joe Gibbs is an owner with a small o. He uses sponsorship as a weapon. He did it with Kenseth, and after he was gone Kenseth's sponsors he brought over stayed on the car. Some of Carl's did too but we will probably never know why he quit driving for Gibbs.JJ successfully transitioned from one major sponsor to another. Kyle had the question of who would step up after M&Ms.
Kyle also didn't have the boss's grandkid standing by.
I think we're saying the same thing: Mr. H had Jimmie's back. Kyle hasn't made it easy to give him that kind of support.You think Jimmie Johnson did that? It was Rick Hendrick. Hendrick is an owner with a capital O, Joe Gibbs is an owner with a small o. He uses sponsorship as a weapon. He did it with Kenseth, and after he was gone Kenseth's sponsors he brought over stayed on the car. Some of Carl's did too but we will probably never know why he quit driving for Gibbs.
HMS will also run a car unsponsored rather than undersell sponsorship.You think Jimmie Johnson did that? It was Rick Hendrick. Hendrick is an owner with a capital O, Joe Gibbs is an owner with a small o. He uses sponsorship as a weapon. He did it with Kenseth, and after he was gone Kenseth's sponsors he brought over stayed on the car. Some of Carl's did too but we will probably never know why he quit driving for Gibbs.
In Kyle's case, his trucks teams were all sponsored from Toyota's sub contractors, they still are on the trucks that Tricon has. Point being Joe had the sponsors, instead of letting Kyle decide when to retire, he cut him. That is his style.
When has this happened?HMS will also run a car unsponsored rather than undersell sponsorship.
No kidding, I think we could cut and paste pages on that subject. Hendrickcars.com had added the pace truck for the High Limit series since then.*please don't say HendrickCars.com, please don't say HendrickCars.com*
Several years ago it was Rick's businesses, mainly Hendrick cars that would appear from time to time when they couldn't sell out and refused to lower to cost to maintain fair price to other sponsors. With it being on the 5 now is different. They see the return on investment, it's not Rick refusing to sell a race to someone for less. There was a lot of discussion about this prior to Kyle ever coming over.When has this happened?
Had to go there didn't ya lol.Several years ago it was Rick's businesses, mainly Hendrick cars that would appear from time to time when they couldn't sell out and refused to lower to cost to maintain fair price to other sponsors. With it being on the 5 now is different. They see the return on investment, it's not Rick refusing to sell a race to someone for less. There was a lot of discussion about this prior to Kyle ever coming over.
He's one of Kasey's cars from 2012
The truth is the truth....Had to go there didn't ya lol.
I'll go with the part that Hendrick was on the car, the rest is an opinion. One could say for example that it was for a tax write off, or on the car in an area where he had a new car dealership opening up and be just as plausible.The truth is the truth....
Son of a ...*please don't say HendrickCars.com, please don't say HendrickCars.com*
Jimmie Johnson was allowed to retire on his own at Hendrick. Completely different way that Kyle Busch was treated.
Denny Hamlin at work ...jack ass.
He's going to make it a real banger.He might have a shot. See what I did there?![]()
He's going to blow the field away.He's going to make it a real banger.