The Announcers Thread

Charlie Spencer said:
@HoneyBadger, on second thought, if I had one property all to myself (17 races) vs. one I shared with three other partners (with 14 races, down from 18 in the past), I'd probably give the shared one less attention too. That's back on NASCAR again for how it divvies up the pie.
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Good point. Fox got shut out of the latest Nascar deal because Amazon ridiculously over paid and Nascar took the money. I posted above another big deal Fox lost. These are a bunch cut throat weasels with no loyalty to anybody. We the people are going to end up paying more so excuse me if I'm not enthused by either cable or streaming. I barely watch any TV for the value I pay as it is.
NBC with their playoff crap they are forcing down our throats, in comparison to Fox shortcomings, I don't care how many pixels and gimmicks NBC has. When NBC de-legitimizes the sport I care for and doesn't listen to the hard core fans I just don't care. Casuals can ooh and aah about the smoke and mirrors, I ain't buying it.
 
StandOnIt said:
YouTube TV is not traditional cable TV. It’s a live TV streaming service that delivers channels over the internet, requiring a subscription and a compatible device like a smart TV, phone, or computer. Unlike cable, it doesn’t rely on physical infrastructure like coaxial cables or satellite dishes, and it offers flexibility to watch on-demand or live without a long-term contract. However, it functions similarly to cable by providing a bundle of live channels, including local networks, sports, and entertainment, often at a lower cost.

Hulu Live TV is a streaming service, not traditional cable TV. It delivers live and on-demand TV channels over the internet, requiring a subscription and a compatible device like a smart TV, phone, or computer. Unlike cable, it doesn’t use physical infrastructure like coaxial cables or satellite dishes and offers flexibility with no long-term contracts. However, it mimics cable by providing a bundle of live channels, including local networks, sports, and entertainment, often at a competitive price.
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It's like cable TV without the box or the cable attached to it.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
And yet somehow, without a cable contract or box, with no antenna, I'll watch all three races this weekend (ARCA, not Trucks). If I'm not watching them over the 'streaming services' I'm paying for individually, how am I doing it?
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Illegal stream, cheated up Roku or Firestick.
 
MRM said:
Illegal stream, cheated up Roku or Firestick.
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If I want it, I pay for it. If I don't want to pay for it, I don't watch it.

Stealing is stealing, regardless of whether it's a physical asset or intellectual property, regardless of whether one thinks the item is overpriced or of little value, regardless of whether the competitors' products are cheaper or free, regardless of whether one thinks one can get away with it.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
If I want it, I pay for it. If I don't want to pay for it, I don't watch it.

Stealing is stealing, regardless of whether it's a physical asset or intellectual property, regardless of whether one thinks the item is overpriced or of little value, regardless of whether the competitors' products are cheaper or free, regardless of whether one thinks one can get away with it.
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The illegal streams aren't technically illegal, more of a grey area. I have no issues using them when my team is playing on Apple tv. I already pay to watch them on their RSN why should I have to pay more?
 
DIDIT said:
Does this mean that there may be yet another subscription required to watch a NASCAR race? I really don't understand after reading the article.
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If you have cable, satellite, or a streaming plan like YouTube TV, you won't need to do anything.
 
DIDIT said:
Ok, then I should assume that all “plans” will include this service and I wouldn’t need to add on any additional services, like a sports tier 2 or sports premium package, correct?
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If you have cable, nothing is changing. Races on TNT, practice and qualifying on TNT Sports on TruTV.

If you watch on HBO Max now, whether it’s for the TNT broadcasts or for Driver Cam, you’re going to have to get TNT Sports. And $15-$20 seems to be the going rate for sports streamers.

If I didn’t have a pirate ship, I’d be irate because I get HBO Max for free.

I have a gut feeling that FOX, ESPN and TNT are gonna try to pull that VENU **** again.
 
HoneyBadger said:
If you have cable, nothing is changing. Races on TNT, practice and qualifying on TNT Sports on TruTV.

If you watch on HBO Max now, whether it’s for the TNT broadcasts or for Driver Cam, you’re going to have to get TNT Sports. And $15-$20 seems to be the going rate for sports streamers.

If I didn’t have a pirate ship, I’d be irate because I get HBO Max for free.

I have a gut feeling that FOX, ESPN and TNT are gonna try to pull that VENU **** again.
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Thanks! This is all quite interesting. As of May we cut our cable with Xfinity and now need to put all the pieces together to be able to watch/record NASCAR, college football and a few major network shows. YouTube TV doesn’t work because we travel 7 months of the year and YouTube requires you to “sign in” to your home location every 3 months. Its been frustrating trying to find a good option/plan.
 
HoneyBadger said:
I have a gut feeling that FOX, ESPN and TNT are gonna try to pull that VENU **** again.
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They're already trying to do that. Except this time to get around it, you can get each one as a standalone or get the whole group as one package. ESPN and Fox will be doing that in October.
 
MRM said:
They're already trying to do that. Except this time to get around it, you can get each one as a standalone or get the whole group as one package. ESPN and Fox will be doing that in October.
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They are all allowing companies like DIRECTV to offer genre packs too but the prices compared to the bundles are still outrageous.
 
As long as nothing's changing with the race broadcasts themselves this year, I'm cool. I'll worry about 2026 in February.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I recall @dpkimmel2001 found a satellite solution he's pleased with.
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I find that you only need to have someone/anyone log into YouTube TV service within your home market to allow the service to continue being that 3 month limitation. Any other family member or friend will do.

I use both YouTube TV and Fubo in my truck, never having to have either log directly into my home market. YouTube TV in the lower 48 & Fubo in Canada.

For many years I did the whole IPTV or what some refer to as pirating services early on in my streaming life. I find it funny that I used to get chastised on here by some of the same people that seem to be taking that route today. The cost & entertainment variety is the huge advantage to that means but the picture quality and reliability of legitimate services far outweigh that option IMO. Well that & the legal ramifications.
 
The head of Versant (which owns USA, MSNBC, etc.) told CNBC that, while the plan is to keep streaming on Peacock for sports properties on USA, they could shop it elsewhere.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I find that you only need to have someone/anyone log into YouTube TV service within your home market to allow the service to continue being that 3 month limitation. Any other family member or friend will do.

I use both YouTube TV and Fubo in my truck, never having to have either log directly into my home market. YouTube TV in the lower 48 & Fubo in Canada.

For many years I did the whole IPTV or what some refer to as pirating services early on in my streaming life. I find it funny that I used to get chastised on here by some of the same people that seem to be taking that route today. The cost & entertainment variety is the huge advantage to that means but the picture quality and reliability of legitimate services far outweigh that option IMO. Well that & the legal ramifications.
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Thank you! I had my daughter sign in from back home and it works now. Big time plus for us.
 


BIG changes for NASCAR viewers.

FOX Sports: Now available on Fox One ($20/month)
Amazon Prime: No changes
TNT Sports: Cable staying the same, but streaming coverage moving to new Discovery Global sports streaming service.
USA Sports: Probably new channel. Versant has said they are shopping around for streaming.
 
Fox can do pit times when they want to.
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Last night's race was also on Peacock. I ended up watching it there because we had weather in our area and the local station shrank the screen to show alerts.
 
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