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  1. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I think Childress was clear enough that he (and probably most of the owners) felt they had no choice but to sign. Much like Rick Hendrick, do you think RC sounded like someone who WANTED to sign? A few years ago, I declined to pursue action involving some property that had been in my family...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Would YOU buy one under the current deal, knowing full well it could become worthless in seven years?
  3. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Generally true, but don't underestimate the power of swaying public opinion in this matter. If Denny and Mike can convince enough fans that THEY are right,, and NASCAR is wrong, it COULD turn a NASCAR win in court into a loss. If the fans turn on NASCAR, coupled with all the bad press they...
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    It's been 15 years: What do you think happened with Jeremy Mayfield?

    I could be persuaded to believe either side of this messy tale, but the biggest question I have always had was that Jeremy claims some massive conspiracy to run him off, but at that point in his career, why would he even be on NASCAR's radar? It would like waking up tomorrow and finding that...
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    Hendrick Motorsport News

    Well, they're for sale, so I'll take that as being asked to wear it.
  6. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Just to be clear, I'm not making any claims one way or another about ARCA as it pertains to the lawsuit, I was just trying to lay some background for those that don't know and make the point that ARCA has served solely at the discretion of NASCAR since the 50's. NASCAR could have snuffed it out...
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    Hendrick Motorsport News

    Who is designing this crap? I wouldn't wear that hat if Rick personally handed it to me.....
  8. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    ARCA has served as a "sidekick" to NASCAR practically since day one at the blessing of the France family. Bill Sr. and Arca founder John Marcum were good friends, and Bill Jr. continued that relationship, giving ARCA the opportunity to run at ISC tracks and be an opening act for NASCAR weekends...
  9. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Rick is the biggest glass half full guy I know of in racing. If "I was tired" was the BEST reason he could come up with signing the agreement, it must REALLY be awful.
  10. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The agreement they signed forbid criticizing it and or NASCAR, remember? If you have any doubts about the lack of enthusiasm for the agreement, go back to Rick Hendrick's statement, possibly the most positive spin guy I have ever seen; "I was just tired". That's certainly not a ringing...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    To bring it full circle, I knew a couple of long time NASCAR competitors from the 60's forward that were CONVINCED that the Mafia was pulling NASCAR's strings as far back as the late 50's when Bill France Sr. needed to raise funds build Daytona. I was also told that the time Bill Jr. supposedly...
  12. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I don't think Larry's ignorant, I just think he knows where his bread is buttered. I wouldn't expect ANYONE in the NASCAR broadcast orbit to say ANYTHING very counter to the NASCAR party line. Larry can afford to throw a couple of team owners under the bus.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Also keep in mind that the same team owners mentioned were instrumental in giving us the RTA, which was as much as anything an admission that they weren't all in on NASCAR's way if doing things. I think it would be presumptuous to assume that EVERYONE that signed the new agreement is not in...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Well, frankly. it really DOESN"T matter to me, because I I only spend about 1/2 of one percent of my leisure time paying attention to college sports, but it sure might wreck a LOT of other people. In my mind, getting a free education, getting a chance to showcase your talent for pro teams and...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Sometimes doing the right thing doesn't turn out like we hope. Giving the athletes what they deserve may kill the very system that gives it to them. The same may be able to be said about the NASCAR charters.
  16. Formerjackman

    Cup RACE thread --- Kansas

    I understand your position, but I'll repeat what I said. Who's record do you want this year, Chase Elliott's, or William Byron's? The 24 basically disappeared for half the regular season, yet he is almost a shoe in to advance, and Chase is in a dogfight for his life.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Kansas

    That's an IF though. He certainly doesn't have much margin for error.
  18. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    In my opinion, the NIL is quickly leading to the death of college sports as we know them, and I think the same is also possible with the charter system of NASCAR, but in both cases, the Pandora's box has been opened, and it's going to be next to impossible to get the lid closed now.
  19. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    You have about 100 times more faith in NASCAR management than I do. Whether NASCAR likes it or not, once they signed on to the charter agreement, and ESPECIALLY after people PAID substantial money for them, then they have obligations to those charter holders that didn't previously exist. I have...
  20. Formerjackman

    Cup RACE thread --- Kansas

    Well, as I have mentioned more than once this year, The 9's average finish is driven by the lack of really bad finishes, not really good finishes. That 11.3 might look impressive, but it hasn't translated to wins or stage points, and in this dumpster fire of a playoff system we have, that's...
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