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I remember people bitching in 2003 about how boring it was that Matt Kenseth was running away with it. NASCAR fans will bitch about anything.

Without the playoffs would anyone even care about a driver low enough in points to be knocked out of the playoffs by an underdog winner? The playoffs do put attention on guys who might not otherwise get it.

I don’t disagree. My only point is that being a Cup Champion is still the pinnacle of stock car racing. It’s far from a meaningless joke to the guys competing for it.

They certainly can. The margin for error in a full season format is a lot smaller. I prefer the marathon aspect of the full season format.

NASCAR is a circus with a flawed playoff format. But the champion satisfied the criteria better than his competitors. Joey Logano and Ryan Blaney are rightful champions, regardless of what special snowflakes think.

You can think the format sucks without trashing the prestige of the championship. ARCA Brakes is acting like a petulant child.

I still remember when Reddit told me that SVG would be a front runner competing for championships. If you think the championship is a meaningless joke then you have plenty of other options for spending your Sunday afternoons.

Robby Gordon without the attitude.

Remember when Reddit said he’d be an instant championship contender in Cup?

Same functionality and serves the same purpose. But I see your point. I have Spectrum in Virginia and it can go out from time to time. It’s not bulletproof here by any means either.

You’ve clearly never lived in a rural area and relied on satellite TV during a rainstorm.

This is the first Cup race in a new market. If you’re NASCAR, you have to be in it for the long haul and hope to grow that number over the years.

In an ideal world, that would happen.

I think they were trying to gain a bigger piece of the TV money pie. As I said from the start, a lawsuit is a reckless way to do that. If the courts agree that NASCAR IS an illegal monopoly then we could end up with a CART/IRL type split.

Yeah, I think we’re going to end up with a settlement. Hopefully MJ keeps Dennis from talking to the lawyers.

I went to races in 2019 and 2021. I didn’t really see any 42 gear but I sure as **** saw a lot of 5 gear. Also, data is fun: Here are the top selling diecasts in 2019: https://www.nascar.com/gallery/top-10-selling-die-casts-of-lionel-racing/ In 2021, Larson had two of the top five best...

I mean, it’s an objective fact that he saw an explosion in popularity after the n word incident. I know it’s an uncomfortable truth but there is a portion of Larson’s fanbase that jumped on board for the racism.

The truth doesn’t stop being true just because time passes. I give Larson credit for his personal atonement but it doesn’t change the fact around who jumped on his bandwagon back in 2020.

Well there was that one time Larson showed personality and inexplicably exploded in popularity afterwards…

Put Hocevar in a Gibbs, Penske, or Hendrick car and he would be a regular up front.