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  1. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I think you are massively underestimating Hendrick's comments. This guy is the king of positive spin. I've been following his moves for 41 years now. For Rick to say what he said is as close to "FU NASCAR" as he is ever going to come.
  2. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I can't speak for any teams beyond them, but the limited responses that Rick Hendrick and Richard Childress gave made it crystal clear to ME that they were NOT happy with NASCAR at all, and felt absolutely coerced into signing. Those are two guys who normally never miss a chance to extoll the...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Everything has a back story. If you REALLY want to understand the Constitution, you must read the Federalist Papers.
  4. Formerjackman

    Silly Season 2025

    I pretty much agree with this assessment. I don't WANT Kaulig to be a fraud, but at this point they kind of ARE. That trophy hunting rhetoric just doesn't cut it with me when you are hiring drivers like Dillon. I could MAYBE see Dillon if you really have to kiss a little ass over at RCR, but...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Possible, but I would sooner believe payment due upon sale approval. Either way, I seriously doubt Gene is funding his race team with money for a sale that so far hasn't, and may NEVER happen.
  6. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    So you think that Michael Jordan and company just wrote Gene a check and let him cash it with no guarantee that they would ever get anything of value in return? Seems unlikely to me.
  7. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Correct, but you make it sound like NASCAR made some kind of sacrifice in the charter deal, and they didn't, in fact it gave them power they didn't even HAVE before the deal.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Th That would be like buying a car and not getting the title. Only a complete fool would pay before they have a valid charter in hand. Also remember that NASCAR basically has a gag order on the teams that signed the new deal. Haas may not want to antagonize NASCAR on this.
  9. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Let's be perfectly honest about the "free" thing. NASCAR didn't give up diddly squat. All the charters did was guarantee WHO was going to get the money NASCAR was paying out already.
  10. Formerjackman

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    But Haas had no way of knowing the buyers weren't going to sign the contract when SHR made the deal.
  11. Formerjackman

    Possible changes to Xfinity car

    It's a NASCAR tradition. Mess with things that DO work, while ignoring things that don't.
  12. Formerjackman

    Denny Hamlin Appreciation Thread

    You have to have a ticket to enter the lotto, and too often Denny has gotten lost on the way to the gas station.
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    Denny Hamlin Appreciation Thread

    I think it would be completely appropriate for Denny to retire being the best driver to never win a title because unlike poor Mark Martin, Denny has often been the primary cause of his own failures. A title at this point would just let him off the hook for all the times he was his own worst enemy.
  14. Formerjackman

    The Announcers Thread

    Once again, something I've been saying from the get go that nobody wanted to hear. As time goes on, streaming will become as expensive as cable, and the product is going to end up looking just as bad. Here's how dumb I am. Thanks to streaming, I have more channel options than ever, yet I spend...
  15. Formerjackman

    California Speedway Demo / Rebuild

    It was only great when the pavement wore out. For the first decade and more, it was generally duller than Michigan.
  16. Formerjackman

    Silly Season 2025

    From what I understand, the chance of Heim getting into ANY car remotely connected to JGR is slim and none. Sounds like whatever bad blood there is, it runs deep. Really surprised he hasn't jumped ship just to try to save his career, but I imagine every place he would go wants money he doesn't...
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    For me at this point, it's not about feeling sorry for anyone, it's about people getting what they deserve. That doesn't mean they wouldn't send every extra dollar they make chasing speed and buying fancy buildings and end up just as "broke" as before, but I DO think the teams have earned a...
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    Maybe because you don't like what he is saying? Like him or hate him, unlike any of us he has a REAL skin in the game and I think his point of view is a least worth considering, especially when he is the ONLY one from the ownership side that is willing to even discuss the issue in any...
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    I dislike Denny, and I like Jimmie, but there is something to be said about someone who will take a stand and tell us what he REALLY thinks, whether you agree with them or not. I'm sick and tired of robots that are afraid to have an unpopular opinion. I am always deeply suspicious of people and...
  20. Formerjackman

    Chevrolet next year?

    There is a reason why a couple of the DuPont/Axalta schemes are iconic, and this one won't EVER be. Also keep in mind there no real consumer component to this sponsorship. The "customer" is body shops and auto body suppliers, and they are going to be far more impressed by a flashy paint scheme...
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