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She's pro playoffs because she's the sort of "journalist" who was trained that engagement mattered more than accuracy or truthfulness.

The Mick Schumacher test clearly went well for all parties and I gotta imagine that come hell or high water, he's appearing in Indycar next year for RLL. IDK who is going to be on the outs as a result of it. I know the expectation is DeFrancesco but if he has a contract that winds up being too...

It probably doesn't do anything massive immediately, no. The number of people like me is not that large; maybe a hundred thousand or so strong across the entire country. I should be a rounding error, but NASCAR's viewership has slipped so much in recent years that here in the final run to the...

I'll just cut it off at the usual portion where we start to get back into the "when it really counts" which means none of the races near me count to also interject with, "I do think the championship needs to crown the guy who is the best or had the best year." In fact, further, I won't watch...

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Right. And so it is safe to say that in other eras of the sport, being Cup champion was not nearly as important or desirable and those titles accordingly mean a little less than others. I mean, that's how I've seen it for a long time now. There's just a fundamental difference about discussing...

Exactly. Now for the next part: Why would he have only chosen to compete in four full seasons? I'm asking this rhetorically. We both know why. But at the same time, it sorta matters if we're gonna talk about how legitimate a championship is when the perceived best competitor isn't even...

Here's an easy way to discuss the issues of Old NASCAR: Are there people who think David Pearson was better than Richard Petty? Yes. How'd that happen if Richard won so much more? Well....

Actually, I can, because the point of that argument is to try and paint individuals as being hypocrites for not having similar opinions about the system in 1965 vs. 2025. The system in 1965 sucked: it didn't produce particularly legit champs which was, I am very willing to bet, a concern of RJ...

The purpose of crowning a champion is to pick the best talent for the purposes of promoting them as being the best. That is the reason you do it and don't just have a bunch of individual events like we're discussing Grand Prix racing circa 1931. If the system you have doesn't produce individuals...

Well, yeah. For people like me, the system has literally ruined the sport in terms of my ability to enjoy it. Ejecting all that stuff is a silver bullet to get me to care again. I haven't watched a Cup race in any format from start to finish since the finale in 2018 and haven't sat and watched a...

President of NASCAR: This system sucks, no one likes it, it's bad for NASCAR 15 holdouts on the internet: This is the legitimate system we have to crown a champion and NASCAR cannot be sullied with negativity. I just don't understand what is going on anymore. Are people this tuned out?

I mean, they were and have been up until right now. That's how he was selected in the first place. Just want to remind everyone talking about the trial that the parties have agreed to work towards a settlement. Seems like an important detail here when half the thread is still talking about this...

You know, while basing your points system on purse winnings isn't a great way to go about determining a champion in motorsports, that is REALLY "performing when it counts" since the winners of the few prestigious races each year had a massive lead over the competition.

The trial is heading to mediation for a settlement and.....yeah.

And now the entire talking point is null and void anyhow. This is going to mediation with Mishkin in charge because NASCAR is now open to settling the case. I look forwards to many more pages of speculation about how, in fact, NASCAR is going to win the lawsuit.

Bob Pockrass @bobpockrass Judge Bell has ordered NASCAR, 23XI, and Front Row participate in a settlement conference with the current mediator Jeffrey Mishkin on Oct 21. The hearing on motions for summary judgment and exclude witnesses has been moved to Oct 23.

I figured NASCAR would be more interested in limiting the potential damage to their public persona than it was hoping to hurt FRM/23XI during all the pre-trial shenanigans. I was wrong. They wanted to be messy before they caved. I don't know that it helped them one iota but I hope they're happy...

Almost Joey Logano's entire career has been spent with him being told that what people want is to see a Game 7 Moment and he has materially benefited from the system developed to employ that. I am sure he does actually believe that NASCAR fans really want to watch the guys running in the back...

It makes sense for NASCAR to work in this way because they own half the tracks, they are the ones with the TV deal, blah blah blah. That it has led to the sport declining in attendance and interest hasn't mattered to NASCAR because the bottom line has always increased thanks to media deals. It...