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Both reasons are wrong. Bell wasn't pushing the issue, and in fact was completely caught off guard by JGR's policy change. The real reason... Ty Gibbs wants to race some dirt track events. And what Ty wants, Ty gets. Also, with Briscoe joining the team next year, 75% of JGR's cup drivers want to...

Well, Aunty, we don't know jacksh*t about the facts of the case, and we don't know jacksh*t about the law, so arguing about the merits of the lawsuit seems a tall order. We haven't read the documents, which have not been released publicly. And most of us haven't studied law. So far, all we've...

1. The "round of 16" is four races. After race #30, 8 drivers are eliminated and 8 advance. 2. The "round of 8" is six races. Points are reset and playoff points are applied as per current rules. The 8 teams have six races to race as a mini-season, and top points total wins the Bill France Cup...

A three-way finish this close needs photographic evidence to be sure who actually won. Fortunately, high speed cameras were deployed at the finish line... @Spotter22 in the 99 is the winner. @aunty dive in the 12 is runner up. @pjmolo in the 8 claims 3rd place.

Congrats to @Spotter22, and all of the top four contestants. Really good picks were required to win this year. Spotter's 13.72 average points per race is outrageous... probably a NASCAR Pick 'Em record. And a sincere thank you to @pjmolo who is undoubtedly the best and fairest commissioner...

Dang. Such an iconic racer. A legend in his own time, and a legend for all time. Godspeed Bobby Allison.

I guess your stock car racing ideal world is one where *all* the car owners operate like Rick Ware Racing... and Jim France and Lesa Kennedy France (plus the Bruton Smith family) keep *all* the money for themselves. That is *not* my ideal world. I know that, once a Real Racer learns how to...

It's far from silly, IMO. It goes to the very heart of the case... are we pondering whether Nascar maintains a monopoly in professional stock car racing, or is the question whether Nascar has a monopoly in the broader industry of sports and entertainment, including motor racing, NBA teams, etc...

Byron did nothing wrong, but he did benefit from the illegal race manipulations performed by others on his behalf. That cannot stand. He should be penalized for "receiving stolen goods," so to speak.

This rant by @AlTerego is a textbook example of "gaslighting." It deserves no response. I suppose Nascar did the best they could, given a difficult situation. Bell's wall-riding incident wasn't a full "Hail Melon," but it was clearly a violation of the rule established after Ross Chastain's...

I'm coming for YOU, @Mr Excitement. You have P10 and I want it. Back in the summer, I reached P10... just long enough for a cup of coffee. I wanna get back in the top 10. I'm polishing up the ol' chrome horn. Look out! (LOL).

I agree with the tweet to a certain point... the ruling on expedited discovery does seem like a minor skirmish, compared to the substance of the November 4 hearing on the injunction. However, even that argument, scheduled for next Monday, is hardly the litmus test of this lawsuit, IMO. The...

@SOI, thank you for that thoughtful reply. I don't agree with all of it, but I now have a better idea where you're coming from. It's certainly true that Big Bill France recognized a market opportunity and organized and nurtured an industry that has provided good income and wealth generation for...

As you point out, Nascar could make life pretty Hell-ish for any team they choose to target, and that team would find it difficult or impossible to "prove it" to gain legal relief. So let me ask you, Brother SOI... why do you choose to throw your total, all in support in favor of the outfit that...

I agree. Logano is an elite driver and has been for a long time. He needs no defense. However, the analysis performed by @jaqua19 is seriously flawed because it uses 2022-24 results to measure whether Joey is fully deserving of competing in Phoenix for the 2024 championship. Being deserving of...

I've read every post in this 32-page discussion, and I still can't get over the amount of disdain many of y'all have for the economic plight of the team owners. These are the guys that make the show happen every week, so be careful who you neglect. Add me to the apparent minority of R-F members...

30 races are in the books, 6 more races to go, Now is the time to make my move... I believe in setting goals and working hard to achieve them. It's true in life, and it's true in the Nascar Pick 'Em business. Since the Daytona 500 in February, my goal has been 540 points for the year, an...

If Jim Bob Cooter isn't a crew chief on a dirt late model team, he sure as hell should be.

Every dog has his day. This day is yours! :dual9mm:

Jordan Bianchi has published his latest silly season update in The Athletic. He cautions that none of these moves are yet done deals and will not be final until the teams announce them. Corey LaJoie... probably to the RWR #51 "according to multiple sources involved in the discussions." Justin...