2.7. Jeff Gordon or Dale Earnhardt Sr. the greatest sprint cup driver polls continue

Name* Wins* Cup Championships* Win Percentage.

  • Gordon, Jeff* 85* 4* 13.02%

    Votes: 16 40.0%
  • Earnhardt, Dale Sr.* 76* 7* 11.24%

    Votes: 24 60.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
I really like Jeff Gordon. He is my favorite driver. But, I'd have to admit that Dale Sr had a better career when you look at 7 championship to 4. Admittedly, if The Chase wasn't concocted when it was he may have another championship or two. But, that isn't the point. Dale Sr is the second best driver ever, in my opinion, right behind Richard Petty.

I have to agree. If Pearson and Cale had longer careers, who knows what they would have accomplished. Dale not only won a lot, he practically made RCR the success it became. The King built and drove for his organization.
 
Gordon is being penalized because he is still an active driver and Dale is being cannonized because he died.

But that's just MY opinion...
 
^ This.

Especially considering that many Big E fans loathe Kryle Busch and think he's an a**hole. Earnhardt was an even bigger a**hole on and off the track and if Kyle had a mustache, drove a black car and wore goofy looking goggles, he'd be worshiped by NASCAR Nation. I'm so sick of how people have a short memory in regards to Earnhardt. Wheelman and one of the best drivers ever (not better than Gordon) but a grade A ass.

so you knew DE personally did you ?

Im not trying to defend Andy here, Im pointing something out.

Where in the Sam Dick does Andy say that he knew DE?
 
Im not trying to defend Andy here, Im pointing something out.

Where in the Sam Dick does Andy say that he knew DE?

well he said DE was an A hole on and off the track so if he knew what dale did off track he must have known him

and by the way the ? mark would indicate a question to andy
 
well he said DE was an A hole on and off the track so if he knew what dale did off track he must have known him

and by the way the ? mark would indicate a question to andy

He said off the track, not in private. There's a difference.

And the ? mark was meant for you dumby! :owquitit:

You're the one that prompted it! Why would I ask andy?
 
He said off the track, not in private. There's a difference.

And the ? mark was meant for you dumby! :owquitit:

You're the one that prompted it! Why would I ask andy?


obviously you didn't really read my post to Andy i was asking HIM a question. and no off the track means exactly that off track where did he get is info

i'm done with this now
 
Gordon is being penalized because he is still an active driver and Dale is being cannonized because he died.

But that's just MY opinion...


I think there is some truth there. But there is big body of work or record for Gordon, 653 starts over 18 complete seasons.



Dale started 676 cup events over 21 seasons.


Personally, I think Jeffs 2nd half of his career has damaged his legacy more. If his second nine years were close to the first nine years, it would be very hard to deny him as the best ever.



I am sure there is some pro Earnhardt sentiment or canonization due to his death. There is a statue of him, so it is a hard point to deny.


I can only speak for myself, but it would not make my list of pros. The way Dale wore his belts, refused the Hans device, and drove that fatal apron wasn't his best attributes to say the least.


There was plenty of folks who had determined in their minds he was the best prior to his death. My first thought isn't it his death, it was the way he raced.


He was take no prisoners, and drove like someone possessed. He also is about as trailer park as they came when he finally got to the Cup Series. I don't mean that as a criticism.


It was that get up at 5 am psycho mindset that made him my favorite. Psycho is an exaggeration, but he was possessed and overcame the odds. That's the Dale that I loved to see race.


Maybe a little personal, but I have foolishly raced on borrowed money, and it is fools game. I could not survive, but he was the fool (dreamer a better word imo) who did make it, and won. He made the most of his resources.


Maybe that doesn't mean much to some, but I think many could relate to the dream.



Back to Gordon, if I was trying to make case for him, it would be more about those first nine years. I don't think sustained longevity is his best point.
 
You make a valid point, Greg!

Dale and Jeff started their careers in different eras so it's very difficult to make head-to-head comparisons.

A legitimate argumaent could be made for either driver as being better than the other.
 
Got a bandanna on over there, internet tough guy?
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You are so childish. And you call yourself a reporter? YOU are the one that stirs up bull**** and when people disagree you call them "an internet tough guy." Dude, are you 7 years old? You sure act like it. I've seen a lot of internet trolls but I don't think I have EVER seen one as stupid as you are.
 
You are so childish. And you call yourself a reporter? YOU are the one that stirs up bull**** and when people disagree you call them "an internet tough guy." Dude, are you 7 years old? You sure act like it. I've seen a lot of internet trolls but I don't think I have EVER seen one as stupid as you are.

I call you a keyboard warrior because you talk a big bad game from the safety of your computer monitor. Please come to Dover next year.
 
You are so childish. And you call yourself a reporter? YOU are the one that stirs up bull**** and when people disagree you call them "an internet tough guy." Dude, are you 7 years old? You sure act like it. I've seen a lot of internet trolls but I don't think I have EVER seen one as stupid as you are.

 
c'mon guys.............................................

Get the eff over it already!

JEEEEEEEEEZ!!!
 
c'mon guys.............................................

Get the eff over it already!

JEEEEEEEEEZ!!!

My apologies to everyone on here for my language. :)

I enjoy the discussions on here with all of you, except you KingGlamis, and I know my language and general attitude lately has been less than desirable.
 
I went with Gordon. Too bad Evernham wasn't with Jeff longer, even so, he has had an amazing career. I believe that Gordon and Tony have talent that others only dream about.
 
I went with Gordon. Too bad Evernham wasn't with Jeff longer, even so, he has had an amazing career. I believe that Gordon and Tony have talent that others only dream about.

I agree with that, Jeff and Tony are probably two of the best "pure drivers" to ever enter NASCAR...one of the reasons I am a Gordon fan...pun intended I guess lol

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Evernham would have stayed longer....
 
My apologies to everyone on here for my language. :)

I enjoy the discussions on here with all of you, except you KingGlamis, and I know my language and general attitude lately has been less than desirable.

All except me. Thanks. Or not. I'm willing to bury the hatchet but you need to also.

So Andy, are you gonna stop threatening people with "Come to Dover next year?"

What exactly would happen at Dover? Would we have a beer together and laugh about our internet wars? Or was that a threat of physical violence? I need to know so I can let the moderators of this board know.
 
I agree with that, Jeff and Tony are probably two of the best "pure drivers" to ever enter NASCAR...one of the reasons I am a Gordon fan...pun intended I guess lol

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Evernham would have stayed longer....

pure = what?
 
All except me. Thanks. Or not. I'm willing to bury the hatchet but you need to also.

Are you?


So Andy, are you gonna stop threatening people with "Come to Dover next year?"

It's not a threat.


What exactly would happen at Dover? Would we have a beer together and laugh about our internet wars? Or was that a threat of physical violence? I need to know so I can let the moderators of this board know.

I've never made a threat of physical violence.
 
All except me. Thanks. Or not. I'm willing to bury the hatchet but you need to also.

So Andy, are you gonna stop threatening people with "Come to Dover next year?"

What exactly would happen at Dover? Would we have a beer together and laugh about our internet wars? Or was that a threat of physical violence? I need to know so I can let the moderators of this board know.

But if you are willing to bury the hatchet, so am I.
 
pure = what?

Pure = it seems to come more "natural" to them. Granted it appears this way from the starting racing as children thing and all, but I think they make it look "easy" compared to some of the other guys....
 
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