2 things about last nite

[KevinWI]

Of course after reading this I had to look up the 1955 LeMans race.

Damn !

"Eighty-three spectators and one driver died at the scene and 120 more were injured in the most catastrophic accident in motorsport history."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1955_Le_Mans_disaster

Yeah, it caused Mercedes-Benz to close their motorsports division for like 40 years. On a somewhat positive note, the outrage over it caused the rise of closed circuit road courses in the United States, like Watkins Glen and Road America. Hard to believe that before that most road racing was done on public roads.

 

[ted@economy]

The restrictor plate takes power away from every car in the field equally . The fast cars should still be the fast cars and the slow cars should still be the slow cars . Same as if Nascar switched them from V8 to V6 . The bunching up of the field has more to do (IMO) with the closeness of the competition , than the plates . Lack of throttle response is the same on your own car if you already have it maxed out .Don't want to get into the stupid plate debate , like everyone says , it is here to stay ,but I think the plate is a whipping boy for folks who don't like super speedway racing.

 

[KevinWI]

The restrictor plate takes power away from every car in the field equally . The fast cars should still be the fast cars and the slow cars should still be the slow cars .

Is that why David Ragan and Trevor Bayne contend for wins every week at every track? Come on, Ted, everybody knows that RP tracks level the playing field and give crappy cars a chance to win.

Same as if Nascar switched them from V8 to V6 . The bunching up of the field has more to do (IMO) with the closeness of the competition , than the plates . Lack of throttle response is the same on your own car if you already have it maxed out .Don't want to get into the stupid plate debate , like everyone says , it is here to stay ,but I think the plate is a whipping boy for folks who don't like super speedway racing.

Sorry, Ted, I love real super speedway racing. In the Indy/CART cars 93-02. They used to run flat out around Indianapolis, Michigan and Fontana with the 900hp turbocharged monster engines and the field was all strung out like it should be. Side-by-side passing was real crazy and awesome as they would pick up the draft for a few seconds and slingshot past each other at 230+ mph. Not aberrational traffic jam racing where crap cars have a chance to win.

 

[ToyYoda]

Wow , really ? Have you told CBS ?

Speaking of CBS, they broadcast their last Daytona 500 in 2000, and that race was a colossal bore. So, not all bad 500's have been recent 500's. There have been some good ones since then. 2007 and 2011 come to mind.

 

[FenderBumper]

They've done what they can. Just take Talladega out of the damn Chase.

What the hell do you think you are, some random message board expert or something?

 

[ted@economy]

Is that why David Ragan and Trevor Bayne contend for wins every week at every track? Come on, Ted, everybody knows that RP tracks level the playing field and give crappy cars a chance to win.

Jimmie Johnson wins again ? Hmmmmm.

 

[FLRacingFan]

Jimmie Johnson wins again ? Hmmmmm.

How many other tracks have teams like Wood Brothers Racing, Phoenix Racing, and Front Row Motorsports won at recently?

 

[ted@economy]

How many other tracks have teams like Wood Brothers Racing, Phoenix Racing, and Front Row Motorsports won at recently?

You are absolutely right , I never thought about that . It must be that thin little piece of metal under the carb. Thanks.

 

[KevinWI]

You are absolutely right , I never thought about that . It must be that thin little piece of metal under the carb. Thanks.

What else would it be? Everybody knows the restrictor plate cuts the horsepower of the cars and the better cars can't pull away like they can at other tracks. That, plus you need almost no skill to drive a car around a plate track. You hold your foot down all the way around. There's no braking or clipping the apex or getting back on it like a regular race track.

PS: They don't use carbs anymore, old man.

 

[ted@economy]

What else would it be? Everybody knows the restrictor plate cuts the horsepower of the cars and the better cars can't pull away like they can at other tracks. That, plus you need almost no skill to drive a car around a plate track. You hold your foot down all the way around. There's no braking or clipping the apex or getting back on it like a regular race track.

PS: They don't use carbs anymore, old man.

So...like...ah....they only slow down the good cars and the slow cars catch up.... like ....I get it now.

 

[KevinWI]

So...like...ah....they only slow down the good cars and the slow cars catch up.... like ....I get it now.

Ted, don't be silly.

Last Cup win at a non-RP track by a team that wasn't:

Hendrick, RCR, DEI/Ganassi/EGR, Stewart-Haas, Petty/Evernham, Penske, Roush, Yates, Gibbs, Waltrip?

Fall Phoenix 2011 - Kasey Kahne (Red Bull Racing)

Before that?

August Michigan 2009 - Brian Vickers (Red Bull Racing)

Before that?

Kansas 2004 - Joe Nemechek (MBV Motorsports)

Yes, Ted, clearly the smaller underfunded teams like Wood Bros, Phoenix and Front Row are just as competitive at non-plate tracks as they are at regular tracks.

 

[ted@economy]

Ted, don't be silly.

Last Cup win at a non-RP track by a team that wasn't:

Hendrick, RCR, DEI/Ganassi/EGR, Stewart-Haas, Petty/Evernham, Penske, Roush, Yates, Gibbs, Waltrip?

Fall Phoenix 2011 - Kasey Kahne (Red Bull Racing)

Before that?

August Michigan 2009 - Brian Vickers (Red Bull Racing)

Before that?

Kansas 2004 - Joe Nemechek (MBV Motorsports)

Yes, Ted, clearly the smaller underfunded teams like Wood Bros, Phoenix and Front Row are just as competitive at non-plate tracks as they are at regular tracks.

I see where you're comin from now . It's that thin little piece of metal under the carb that makes them back markers faster , right ?

 

[Charlie Spencer]

Ted, don't be silly.

Last Cup win at a non-RP track by a team that wasn't:

Hendrick, RCR, DEI/Ganassi/EGR, Stewart-Haas, Petty/Evernham, Penske, Roush, Yates, Gibbs, Waltrip?

Fall Phoenix 2011 - Kasey Kahne (Red Bull Racing)

Before that?

August Michigan 2009 - Brian Vickers (Red Bull Racing)

Before that?

Kansas 2004 - Joe Nemechek (MBV Motorsports)

Yes, Ted, clearly the smaller underfunded teams like Wood Bros, Phoenix and Front Row are just as competitive at non-plate tracks as they are at regular tracks.

I think you missed Regan Smith and Furniture Row at Darlington in May 2011.

Y'all keep talking about the cars. The problem isn't the cars, it's tracks that technology has evolved beyond. Knock down the banking so the drivers have to step on the brakes and the whole problem goes away. Of course, that would eliminate the 'Big One', and the mouth-breathing wreck-lovers would never stand for that.

 

[KevinWI]

I see where you're comin from now . It's that thin little piece of metal under the carb that makes them back markers faster , right ?

Go home, you are drunk.

 

[KevinWI]

I think you missed Regan Smith and Furniture Row at Darlington in May 2011.

Y'all keep talking about the cars. The problem isn't the cars, it's tracks that technology has evolved beyond. Knock down the banking so the drivers have to step on the brakes and the whole problem goes away. Of course, that would eliminate the 'Big One', and the mouth-breathing wreck-lovers would never stand for that.

Yeah, I did miss that one.