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Charlie Spencer

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I'm guessing because covering practice would require spending more money than the studio show.

What televisable events were scheduled yesterday? If Truck practice was all that was going on, money is the answer.
 

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Hocevar runs a half a second faster than the next truck, wins the pole, but wrecks after he crosses the line. He isn't planning running the whole race
 

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Amateur hour by the safety crew. They took forever to get to him. Then he said he would need help twice to them and is clearly in pain. The woman and man officials at his car just kinda look at each other like "what now".

For reference a minute after Carson's crash he's got three officials all around him with nothing done and in James Hinchcliffe's 2019 crash he's got half a dozen officials and medics already tending to him and a third safety truck arriving in the same time period. I chose that crash in particular as a reference because he nearly died from bleeding out and the quick work of the track staff saved his life.

 

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Amateur hour by the safety crew. They took forever to get to him. Then he said he would need help twice to them and is clearly in pain. The woman and man officials at his car just kinda look at each other like "what now".

For reference a minute after Carson's crash he's got three officials all around him with nothing done and in James Hinchcliffe's 2019 crash he's got half a dozen officials and medics already tending to him and a third safety truck arriving in the same time period. I chose that crash in particular as a reference because he nearly died from bleeding out and the quick work of the track staff saved his life.


Oh B.S. any half wit knew Hinchcliffe's crash was super serious. Hocevar is driving the next week and full time the week after.
 

Charlie Spencer

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Oh B.S. any half wit knew Hinchcliffe's crash was super serious. Hocevar is driving the next week and full time the week after.
Yeah, but the safety crew couldn’t know that when the yellow came out. I’m not saying they didn’t do their best but maybe a full-time crew as part of the NASCAR officials would be worth looking into.
 

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Yeah, but the safety crew couldn’t know that when the yellow came out. I’m not saying they didn’t do their best but maybe a full-time crew as part of the NASCAR officials would be worth looking into.
For what? You want to compare safety records with any racing organization?
 

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Oh B.S. any half wit knew Hinchcliffe's crash was super serious. Hocevar is driving the next week and full time the week after.
Not BS at all. Indycar's safety crew is the best on the planet, and it's because we have the same crew of guys who work every single event and know every driver and their previous injury history compared to NASCAR who just had local guys do it each race. Current NASCAR drivers have commented on how they'd like to see NASCAR adopt an Indycar style safety team and Jimmie Johnson has also said Indycar's safety team and how Indycar does it better. Also, notice how in Indycar when there is a crash the Safety team is moving before the car even stops. Safety crew response time in NASCAR needs to become quicker as they've been lucky at times over the last 5 years or so.

Colton Herta Safety team rolling immediately
Ryan Newman Safety team takes almost a full minute to get to him
Austin Dillion Safety team takes abou45 seconds to get to him
Aric Almiroa Safety team takes over a full minute to get to him

NASCAR has got to get better at this.
 

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Yeah, but the safety crew couldn’t know that when the yellow came out. I’m not saying they didn’t do their best but maybe a full-time crew as part of the NASCAR officials would be worth looking into.
this is exactly what NASCAR needs, I'm quite frankly surprised they don't already have one. I hope they adopt that for next year.
 

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Amateur hour by the safety crew. They took forever to get to him. Then he said he would need help twice to them and is clearly in pain. The woman and man officials at his car just kinda look at each other like "what now".

For reference a minute after Carson's crash he's got three officials all around him with nothing done and in James Hinchcliffe's 2019 crash he's got half a dozen officials and medics already tending to him and a third safety truck arriving in the same time period. I chose that crash in particular as a reference because he nearly died from bleeding out and the quick work of the track staff saved his life.


He put his window net down, indicating that he was ok. The delay was his fault not Nascar's
 

Charlie Spencer

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For what? You want to compare safety records with any racing organization?
My understanding is NASCAR uses local resources for safety personnel. It seems to me it would be better to have crews that have regular, weekly experience with these types of cars. For example, getting someone out with a broken leg isn't the same as extracting him from a street car.
 

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My understanding is NASCAR uses local resources for safety personnel. It seems to me it would be better to have crews that have regular, weekly experience with these types of cars. For example, getting someone out with a broken leg isn't the same as extracting him from a street car.
They use AMR...Who does Indycar use?

Since 2017, NASCAR has partnered with American Medical Response (AMR) to have a dedicated traveling safety team for the Cup Series to work alongside local track personnel.
 

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Then my understanding is five years out of date. Thanks.
Another thing. They didn't show Hocevar being extracted from his truck. It was the end of the race, time for the networks to move on so nobody knows except people who were there to see how all that went removing a 6'4" driver out of a truck. It probably took awhile.
 

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Another thing. They didn't show Hocevar being extracted from his truck. It was the end of the race, time for the networks to move on so nobody knows except people who were there to see how all that went removing a 6'4" driver out of a truck. It probably took awhile.
Generally for something like a broken leg with a conscious patient that does not show signs of further injury there isn't a real rush to remove them from a vehicle. Most patients that are transported for these types of injuries are not even done on an emergency basis
 

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Generally for something like a broken leg with a conscious patient that does not show signs of further injury there isn't a real rush to remove them from a vehicle. Most patients that are transported for these types of injuries are not even done on an emergency basis
yep. Unless a bone is sticking out with bleeding I doubt they are going to move heaven and earth to get him out. I'm guessing they took him out thru the window. I say that because if they ripped up the truck to get him out, there would probably be a photo somewhere of the carnage
 

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They use AMR...Who does Indycar use?

Since 2017, NASCAR has partnered with American Medical Response (AMR) to have a dedicated traveling safety team for the Cup Series to work alongside local track personnel.
My understanding is also 5 years out too then... thanks for sharing.

I'd still like to see the response times get quicker in attending to a crashed car.
 

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One of my buddies whom is a local LT on a on a fire department was over the track response team for the truck series a couple years back. He loved it however got a job at home making much more money.


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...and for all the Racing Forum members that have been anxiously awaiting Jennifer Jo's return, she is a late entry in the 10. ;)
Looks like she's going to have to pick it up to make the show

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