Haley 31st out of 36 last year. Haley 31st the year before out of 34 . Lajoie 33 of 34...Those are Rick Ware numbers? Impressive?
Last year Zane Smith 28th, Hocevar 23rd.
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Last year Zane Smith 28th, Hocevar 23rd.
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He never completed a entire season at RWR and getting 2 top 10's at non plate tracks in his 29 starts for a team that probably never had a top 10 outside a plate track is pretty impressive.
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Haley is possibly the most underrated in all of Nascar.
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the other cars run great because Bowman is experimental and has been for years.
Goat, or hall of fame?
Evidence, please. Thanks.
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A serviceable veteran who could win in a good car that everyone thinks should be home on iracing.
Serviceable veteran? They have a trophy for that too?
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There is none, because it's a ridiculous statement.
He's the same guy who said Hendrick only ran the 25 car for R&D, and it was "Papa Joe's retirement fund" whatever that's supposed to mean
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This is big league auto racing, results and production are what a driver is judged on, despite contract if a guy isnt producing change will be made despite contract. Spire is still building something and frankly the driver's they've launched vs who now are employed in those seats are complete upgrades. It happens all the time in big league auto racing and sports, guys are paid to go away and contracts are honored via buy out.
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I dont get why folks keep saying and thinking this. It's been like that since the 88 was the 25 team. There is absolutely no basis for this at all. I remember when Jr was going through it in 2009 and 10, good god the amount of "Rick is hindering Jr because he's giving him the left over equipment after the 24&88 and they're just giving the the 88 the experimental equipment" posts on socials was nauseating.
With a driver like Hocevar you have a feeling he can bust off a win. Lajoie in all his years, I never thought that. It wasn't any different when he went down to the Truck series.
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agree, I feel most confident in Carson getting a win and even contending for a Chase spot in due time over anyone they've employed in the past. I feel confident that Suarez and McDowell can get a win over anyone else they've employed as well. Spire has got a nice little driver roster, if Carson ( thats a big if) can keep it together between his ears this a great building block for them. Carson had a pretty good season considering the upheaval at Spire last year. I think he builds on that this year and he will win a Cup race race, I just hope he keeps the stupid down to a minimum.
I've never thought Hocevar was stupid, fearless, yeah. He isn't afraid of poking his nose in there and the pedal is always on the floor. I think with experience comes wisdom if you are fast to start with. He took on the big 3 teams at Bowman Gray in all kind of ways, led a bunch of laps and got taken out. That bunch has to be feeling pretty good going to Daytona. Lajoie couldn't make the show.