Ambrose in the lead and Robby in 2ed

Betsy said:
With only a few more laps left... Pity poor ambrose!
Betsy:rolleyes:
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Poor Ambrose? He just intentionally spun Robby under caution!

He should be black flagged.

:mad: :mad:

He's not. Because it's Robby. If that had been any other driver, theyd've penalized Ambrose.
 
NASCAR just completely screwed Robby Gordon

Because Ambrose spun him, Robby goes to, like, 18th. :mad: :mad:
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Poor Ambrose? He just intentionally spun Robby under caution!

He should be black flagged.

:mad: :mad:

He's not. Because it's Robby. If that had been any other driver, theyd've penalized Ambrose.
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That was AFTER Robby crumpled up Ambroses back end and put him in the grass to pass!
Even the guys in the pits and the talking heads all knew what Robby was up to!!!
Betsy:rolleyes:
 
The Rape Of Robby Gordon

If that wasn' the most severe hosing ever on the part of NASCAR.
Robby was spun under yellow and the lead given to Ambrose. I was very happy when the enevtible happened (Robby schooling Ambrose on the restart.)
In this instance my opinion of NASCAR is not very good.
Robby won that race.
Congrats to Kevin.
Those open-wheel guys need to go back to NASCAR 101.
 
Robby

got black flagged and told on his radio to go to the pits...He didn't go so he is up the creek!
EVERYONE knew what he was going to do... I think NASCAR should have red flagged the race to keep Robby from doing what everyone KNEW he would do to Ambrose... I hope his fine is humongus!! MAybe even keeping home for a few races!! Or a season or two!!
Betsy:rolleyes:
 
Betsy said:
got black flagged and told on his radio to go to the pits...He didn't go so he is up the creek!
EVERYONE knew what he was going to do... I think NASCAR should have red flagged the race to keep Robby from doing what everyone KNEW he would do to Ambrose... I hope his fine is humongus!! MAybe even keeping home for a few races!! Or a season or two!!
Betsy:rolleyes:
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Robby's my new hero :beerbang: :XXROFL:

That was wild. Robby showed the fans he was going to win!
 
My Take

NASCAR just set a bad precedent. The message to drivers was "it's okay to wreck a guy under caution."

Robby Gordon was leading when the caution came out, and Ambrose flat wrecked him.

To penalize Robby is a grave error on NASCAR's judgement.

Both Kevin and Ambrose should've been sent packing (Kevin for wrecking the 41).

Instead, Harvick wins, and Robby was penalized.
 
the yellow flag was clearly in view on the replay of the spin. I did not see if a flag was in view during the pass. But regardless, one of the 2 front spots should have his on the restart.
 
Betsy said:
got black flagged and told on his radio to go to the pits...He didn't go so he is up the creek!
EVERYONE knew what he was going to do... I think NASCAR should have red flagged the race to keep Robby from doing what everyone KNEW he would do to Ambrose... I hope his fine is humongus!! MAybe even keeping home for a few races!! Or a season or two!!
Betsy:rolleyes:
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i was hoping for a red flag as well. However, we all know what would have happened had they red'd it. Robby woulda been at the 59's window net in a heart beat, both fists waiting.
 
Betsy said:
got black flagged and told on his radio to go to the pits...He didn't go so he is up the creek!
EVERYONE knew what he was going to do... I think NASCAR should have red flagged the race to keep Robby from doing what everyone KNEW he would do to Ambrose... I hope his fine is humongus!! MAybe even keeping home for a few races!! Or a season or two!!
Betsy:rolleyes:
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I have reviewed my tape again and Robby was ahead of Ambrose when he got spun while the caution was being waved. Caution out = field frozen. Why was Robby relegated to 17th position???????????????
Upon review of Robby's appeal NASCAR has no other option than to name Robby Gordon as the race winner.
 
Magnethead said:
the yellow flag was clearly in view on the replay of the spin. I did not see if a flag was in view during the pass. But regardless, one of the 2 front spots should have his on the restart.
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And Marcos Ambrose should've been parked for the remainder of the race. :rolleyes:

Kevin deliberately wrecked the 41. :eek:

Tempers, tempers and tempers.

Speakking of tempers, IndyCar at Michigan, tomorrow at Noon EST.
 
BobbyFord said:
I have reviewed my tape again and Robby was ahead of Ambrose when he got spun while the caution was being waved. Caution out = field frozen. Why was Robby relegated to 17th position???????????????
Upon review of Robby's appeal NASCAR has no other option than to name Robby Gordon as the race winner.
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I guess it's okay to wreck cars under caution. :eek:

Short track races out to be real entertaining now!!
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where's robby starting tomorrow?

what happened that once when harvick disobeyed in a race the day before another?
 
Magnethead said:
where's robby starting tomorrow?

what happened that once when harvick disobeyed in a race the day before another?
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Harvick didn't start the Cup race.

I hate it when Cup guys go out there and wreck Busch guys (like Harvick did).

Ambrose, on the other hand, took a cheap shot. :mad:
 
Magnethead said:
i was hoping for a red flag as well. However, we all know what would have happened had they red'd it. Robby woulda been at the 59's window net in a heart beat, both fists waiting.
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Now, that would've been funny
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i think it'd be in society's best intrest for them to leave an anonymous note in robby's mailbox telling him of the fine

if it's told verbally, the deliverer will be in the ER with a broken neck although in that case i would like for brian france to tell him personally
 
Why, in all of the headlines, do they fail to mention that Ambrose wrecked Robby under caution?
 
The part of the race that wasn't

televised might be the telling factor here. Perhaps Robby roughed up Ambrose more than we could see on the TV.
And perhaps the yellow was out when he passed the first time... Come tomorrow or Tuesday we may know more..
EVERYONE knew what Robby was up to when he got into 2ed place and the green was about to drop!
The wreck behind them was prolly because everyone wanted to get up there to see how hard Robby was going to hit Ambrose!!! :D
Betsy:rolleyes:
 
I noticed in the scoring

Robby was only given credit for 73 laps...two laps short of the finish.. So the BLACK flag must have meant something after all...:D
Betsy:D
 
http://jayski.com/cupnews.htm#news8

Robby Gordon Suspended from Pocono Race? UPDATE: Hearing that NASCAR will suspend #7-Robby Gordon from Sunday's Pennsylvania 500 at Pocono for his actions in Saturday's Busch race at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. For more info on his actions in the race, see my Busch Series page. P.J. Jones practiced the #7 Saturday at Pocono and would be the likely substitute driver.(8-4-2007)
UPDATE: NASCAR is still evaluating whether Robby Gordon will be allowed to compete in the Pennsylvania 500 on Sunday at Pocono Raceway after not following NASCAR orders as well as getting into the back of race leader Marcos Ambrose on a green-white-checkered restart Saturday in the NAPA Auto Parts 200 in Montreal. "It's fair to say we're still evaluating [his status for] tomorrow's race," NASCAR Vice President of Racing Operations Steve O'Donnell said Saturday night. "We're still talking about what's going to take place in Pocono. At this point, it's too early to tell."(SceneDaily.com)(8-4-2007)
 
kelloggs5TLfan said:
http://jayski.com/cupnews.htm#news8

Robby Gordon Suspended from Pocono Race? UPDATE: Hearing that NASCAR will suspend #7-Robby Gordon from Sunday's Pennsylvania 500 at Pocono for his actions in Saturday's Busch race at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. For more info on his actions in the race, see my Busch Series page. P.J. Jones practiced the #7 Saturday at Pocono and would be the likely substitute driver.(8-4-2007)
UPDATE: NASCAR is still evaluating whether Robby Gordon will be allowed to compete in the Pennsylvania 500 on Sunday at Pocono Raceway after not following NASCAR orders as well as getting into the back of race leader Marcos Ambrose on a green-white-checkered restart Saturday in the NAPA Auto Parts 200 in Montreal. "It's fair to say we're still evaluating [his status for] tomorrow's race," NASCAR Vice President of Racing Operations Steve O'Donnell said Saturday night. "We're still talking about what's going to take place in Pocono. At this point, it's too early to tell."(SceneDaily.com)(8-4-2007)
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:beerbang: :D :D :bounce:
Betsy:dual9mm: :pbjtime:
 
suspended from Pocono or not, Robby was the winner of the Montreal race and Nascar was the loser for their false call.
 
Okay, so nascar's explanation that Robby was 13th because he failed to maintain the pace speed and resumed that speed in 13th is pretty BS. No one is paying attention to the fact that Robby was unable to maintain said speed because he was WRECKED UNDER CAUTION! Where's the penalty for Ambrose?! Nowhere! So, Robby stays out and is promptly no longer being scored. When he wrecks Ambrose out of the lead...which is interesting, because according to NASCAR, Robby isn't even on the track, he's parked somewhere. So, Ambrose gets wrecked by an imaginary car and Harvick wins the race?

NASCAR dropped the ball and they can stick to their rules and say that Robby should have started back in 13th, but where were the rules when Ambrose wrecked Gordon under yellow? NOWHERE!

Gordon meted out his own punishment for Ambrose by taking him out of the lead, which is what nascar should have done anyway.

What sucks is that I like Ambrose, he's a good guy. It isn't his fault NASCAR didn't penalize him. Vigilante justice is the best justice in the world, but unfortunately, Robby will probably sit tomorrow.
 
So a few things here:

- Robby roughed up Ambrose to take the lead

- Caution came out and one of two things happened. Robby backed off for the yellow and Ambrose got into him or Ambrose put a little payback on him (probably both)

- Robby should IMO been given the lead back.

- Why would Robby pound the crap out of Ambrose on the restart? He should be pitching his tent in front of NASCAR's trailer

- Ambrose is a stand up guy. I love him!
 
N2racin44 said:
So a few things here:

- Robby roughed up Ambrose to take the lead
► Prove it.

- Caution came out and one of two things happened. Robby backed off for the yellow and Ambrose got into him or Ambrose put a little payback on him (probably both)
► Ambrose flat wrecked him

- Robby should IMO been given the lead back.

- Why would Robby pound the crap out of Ambrose on the restart? He should be pitching his tent in front of NASCAR's trailer
► Robby should or Marcos should.

- Ambrose is a stand up guy. I love him!
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Jeez Andy, I wish that you would grow up for a change. It seems that when someone you like has a problem, anyone who is on the opposing side is either nuts or you call them names. Get over it and go forward. We all have bad days...besides, wasn't the winner of that race one of your loved ones? :rolleyes:
 
My hi def TV showed no damage to Ambrose's rear end but it was there after Robby had passed him.

Robby said in his post race interview that Ambrose spun him when he slowed up (for the caution).

And Robby should be pitching his tent in front of NASCAR's trailer rather then using vigilantly justice. As much as I like the way he handled himself from an entertainment standpoint he should know better.
 
per autoracingsport:

“Once the caution came out on Lap 72 the field was frozen. Once the field is frozen, all cars must maintain cautious pace in order to be scored. At the time that the field was frozen, the #59 was in the lead. The #55 did not maintain cautious pace and by NASCAR rule, cars not maintaining cautious pace are scored only when they blend back into the continuous line. The #55 based on our scoring was ordered to blend back in behind the #33 in front of the #7. The tower ordered the #55 multiple times to get in to position. The directive was acknowledged by the crew chief of the #55 and the crew chief also communicated the order to the driver of the #55. The driver ignored NASCAR’s directive. He was warned that he would be black flagged if he did not comply. Once the #55 crossed the start-finish line he was posted per the NASCAR rule book and at that time the directive to display the black flag was given. After contact with the #59 on Lap 73, NASCAR took emergency action per the rule book Section12-2 thus parking the #55, which was also ignored. The black flag with the white cross was displayed to the #55 when it crossed the start-finish line on lap 74. The #55 finished the race in the 18th position.”

again, it's hard to keep caution pace when you're STALLED.
 
The real problem was NASCAR

Seeing they had a renegade on their hands didn't drop the red flag and get him OUT of the race! Everyone KNEW what he was going to do and NASCAR allowed him to do it. When he didn't follow his instructions to go back to where he was told to go...nothing good could happen from him being behind Ambrose.
There he was KNOWING his laps wouldn't count and yet he didn't go back... He was PLANNING on trashing Ambrose...we ALL knew it and so did NASCAR.
I wonder how this action will sit with his sponsers? Next race he may have "put your ad here" on both sides of his car.. It couldn't happen to a more deserving feller!
Betsy:rolleyes:
 
Betsy said:
Seeing they had a renegade on their hands didn't drop the red flag and get him OUT of the race! Everyone KNEW what he was going to do and NASCAR allowed him to do it. When he didn't follow his instructions to go back to where he was told to go...nothing good could happen from him being behind Ambrose.
There he was KNOWING his laps wouldn't count and yet he didn't go back... He was PLANNING on trashing Ambrose...we ALL knew it and so did NASCAR.
I wonder how this action will sit with his sponsers? Next race he may have "put your ad here" on both sides of his car.. It couldn't happen to a more deserving feller!
Betsy:rolleyes:
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count his history..with the motorola stink, he's a known bad boy, like i said had they red-flagged it he woulda had ambrose's net down in no time, he races hard and takes no prisoners, all he wants to do is WIN. Oh and it got extra air time for camping world.
 
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