Are things really this bad for JGR?

FlFlash said:
Sweet, Your my New Hero! Thanks for finding pics...your source???

Note how the pans are notched to clear the front crossmember and much deeper and flat bottomed compared to your normal shallower and rounded bottom dry sump oil pan. That closes up the bottom of the chassis and gives more room for internal trickery such as scrapper plates/screens. Odd how the ends where the seals go are cut ragged? Makes me wonder if this is more of a cover for the actual pan? An addition of room for extra oil is not an issue on a dry sump pan because the oil is carried in an external tank inside car.
Very interesting!
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Google images. Gibbs oilpan

Gordon called the aero advantage right away. I can't believe Gibb's didn't get fined.
 
Google Images :eek: I'm so behind the times here I was calling buddies and sending e-mails :rolleyes:
 
FenderBumper said:
I can't believe Gibb's didn't get fined.
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$150,000.00 in fines to the JGR camp.....

NASCAR announced today that the #11, No. 18 and No. 20 teams that compete in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series have been penalized for rules violations discovered during opening day inspection June 17 at Michigan International Speedway. All three of the Joe Gibbs Racing cars were found to be in violation of Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 12-4-J (any determination by NASCAR officials that the race equipment used in an event does not conform to NASCAR rules detailed in Section 20 of the NASCAR rule book, or has not been approved by NASCAR prior to the event); and 20-5.5.4A (oil pan, failure to submit component) of the 2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Rule Book. As a result, the three crew chiefs – Mike Ford (#11 car), Dave Rogers (#18 car) and Greg Zipadelli (#20 car) have been fined $50,000 each and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31. In addition, all three car chiefs – Chris Gillin (#11 car), Wesley Sherrill (#18 car) and Jason Shapiro (#20 car) along with Senior Vice President of Racing Operations Jimmy Makar have been placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.(NASCAR)(6-21-2011)
 
Thanks for the research and info y'all! As far as what the oil pan might have to do with engine reliability, I was just wondering if there was a time-line link, since JGR built their own Yota engines. I don't know how it would be a factor, but stranger things have happened! ;)
 
robbybee said:
Thanks for the research and info y'all! As far as what the oil pan might have to do with engine reliability, I was just wondering if there was a time-line link, since JGR built their own Yota engines. I don't know how it would be a factor, but stranger things have happened! ;)
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They never got to use those pans, or that's what JGR say's. Who know's if they did but they didn't get noticed right away.
 
FlFlash said:
Sweet, Your my New Hero! Thanks for finding pics...your source???

Note how the pans are notched to clear the front crossmember and much deeper and flat bottomed compared to your normal shallower and rounded bottom dry sump oil pan. That closes up the bottom of the chassis and gives more room for internal trickery such as scrapper plates/screens. Odd how the ends where the seals go are cut ragged? Makes me wonder if this is more of a cover for the actual pan? An addition of room for extra oil is not an issue on a dry sump pan because the oil is carried in an external tank inside car.
Very interesting!
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I thought the pans they got fined for had part of the crossmember built into them?Instead of being notched out to go over it.
 
mike honcho said:
I thought the pans they got fined for had part of the crossmember built into them?Instead of being notched out to go over it.
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No, they were just notched. You would have a hard time pulling the engine if it were morphed around the frame. :confused:
 
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