Are you f'ing kidding me?

I have a no problem with Danica Patrick (I don't hate women) but when someone - anyone - who consistantly runs in the back of the field while driving HMS gear is good for the sport than it's time to take a serious look at Nascar.

Why isn't Casey Mears or David Ragan "good for the sport?"

Kinda sad...

Newman is the flagship this year.
 
The Charlotte shrine to stock car history added a display saluting her as the first woman in the 65-year history of NASCAR's premier series to qualify first for a Sprint Cup race.

I don't see anything wrong with that. It was historic.

Uh oh...the riff-raff around here isn't going to like your use of reason and logic.
 
The Charlotte shrine to stock car history added a display saluting her as the first woman in the 65-year history of NASCAR's premier series to qualify first for a Sprint Cup race.

I don't see anything wrong with that. It was historic.

"...it's pretty cool to think that we've got a small part of it for a few months."

Kelley is hoping the display will become a regular feature as the museum tries to focus on artifacts linked to recent records and landmarks.
The hall is considering adding an area to highlight current milestones. Patrick's is one of a handful to be highlighted since the hall's 2010 opening, including a firesuit from Jeff Gordon's 85th victory, a truck driven by Kyle Busch during a tripleheader weekend sweep and Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s Wrangler-emblazoned Chevrolet that honored his late father in a Nationwide Series win at Daytona International Speedway three years ago.

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Lets be fair. Jr got in this display by simply driving a car that honored his father.
 
And will likely be the one gone next year regardless of performance. Danica is $, Tony is the boss and Kevin is bringing Budweiser so........

I can almost see they day when points are awarded based on who gets the most sponsor dollars/media time and that silly idea of actually performing and winning races finally becomes a thing of the past ;)
 
And will likely be the one gone next year regardless of performance. Danica is $, Tony is the boss and Kevin is bringing Budweiser so........
nah they will keep Newman, Tony's going to bail and run a limited indycar and dirt sprint schedule. He will get Stenhouse to train Danica. o_O
 
I can almost see they day when points are awarded based on who gets the most sponsor dollars/media time and that silly idea of actually performing and winning races finally becomes a thing of the past ;)

No more silly than making the first 26 races pointless;)
 
Yet another HOF milestone.

Next, on our hall of fame tour is the start and park category added in 2015 and featuring Jennifer Jo Cobb.

Perhaps well have a record for most lawsuits and criminal charges related to a race team that doesn't really race.
 
I can almost see they day when points are awarded based on who gets the most sponsor dollars/media time and that silly idea of actually performing and winning races finally becomes a thing of the past ;)
Are you suggesting liberalism? Lol!
 
I figured out who has her hauler..Jeremy Mayfield
The Catawba County Superior Court indictment states Mayfield stole more than $1,000 worth of property each from Fitz Holdings, DEA Ventures Inc. and Red Bull Racing.
Mayfield is also charged with obtaining property by false pretense after allegedly taking $1,200 from Smith Setzer and Sons, Inc.
 
For all of you Danica haters. You have to admit she is good for the sport. Is she a Johnson, Stewart or Edwards? No she isn't, but she isn't a Nemecheck or Yaley either. She has brought new fans and sponsors to OUR sport.

Like her or hate her, she is good for the sport.

I agree with you overall but strictly on driving ability Nemecheck at 30 was a far better driver. He was just a male though and it doesnt mean as much to people as Danicas incredible ability to consistently finish around p30.
 
I can almost see they day when points are awarded based on who gets the most sponsor dollars/media time and that silly idea of actually performing and winning races finally becomes a thing of the past
Are you suggesting liberalism? Lol!

Nascar will start handicapping . The Green #10 gets a bigger engine.
 
I agree with you overall but strictly on driving ability Nemecheck at 30 was a far better driver. He was just a male though and it doesnt mean as much to people as Danicas incredible ability to consistently finish around p30.
Nemechek was actually a decent driver back in the day. He was the 1992 BGN (now Nationwide) champion, and he does have 3 Cup wins. That takes a little talent, I guess.
 
She has them lining up at her souvenir hauler, maybe that will translate to the HoF? People through the turnstiles is the goal. Hopefully she can help keep the place going long enough for me to make it down there.
Going through Charlotte on the Loudon Niagara Eldora route, now I gotta stop in and check out Danica's exhibit. :D
 
Geee, I wonerd if the thread and some of these comments would be the same if this was about a black driver in the cup series
You can bet I would make the same statements. When all you have done is win one pole and ride around in the back the rest of the season I dont care if your black , green, blue, white, male, female, transgendered or anything else. You dont deserve a square inch in the NHOF.

Edit: that should be the nascar hall of shame.
 
I've never met a Danica fan. Evidently, they exist..

Geee, I wonerd if the thread and some of these comments would be the same if this was about a black driver in the cup series

I wonder if the thread and some of these comments would be the same if not started by AndyMarquisLive.. Think about it.

If you think Danica winning pole at Daytona is a "huge milestone" you're mistaken and clearly the CNN story you heard about the accomplishment got to your head. She's a useless racecar driver. Regardless of race, gender, the fact that her and Stenhouse are boning.. Any of it.

The worse part of it is this "professional sport" that I love continues to stupify itself by keeping this broad relevant. Again, this is not about her being a female. It's about the sad attempts by anyone with a voice in the sport defending her everytime she ***** up.
 
I have a no problem with Danica Patrick (I don't hate women) but when someone - anyone - who consistantly runs in the back of the field while driving HMS gear is good for the sport than it's time to take a serious look at Nascar.

Why isn't Casey Mears or David Ragan "good for the sport?"

That's the point ,right there . If Casey Mears or David Ragan was one of Nascar's most popular drivers and won the FAN VOTE as the driver that the majority of FANS wanted into the race . Well ,HELL YEAH , they would be good for the sport . And HELL YEAH Nascar should get them into the race . Why should Andy be the guy who decides that the fans are wrong and Danica shouldn't be allowed to race?
 
That's the point ,right there . If Casey Mears or David Ragan was one of Nascar's most popular drivers and won the FAN VOTE as the driver that the majority of FANS wanted into the race . Well ,HELL YEAH , they would be good for the sport . And HELL YEAH Nascar should get them into the race . Why should Andy be the guy who decides that the fans are wrong and Danica shouldn't be allowed to race?

Andy doesn't decide anything for anyone except himself - same as the rest of us.

As for the fan vote, it's a popularity contest and if the fans vote for Patrick, so be it. So either the All Star event is a race of the Nascar elite drivers or it's a circus devised solely for entertainment purposes, but it can't be both at the same time.

However, I'm not convinced that tweaking a rule or "oversight" in the final hours just to help get her in is "good for the sport." IMO, Nascar is betting the farm on her car being raceable after the show down.
 
Andy doesn't decide anything for anyone except himself - same as the rest of us.

As for the fan vote, it's a popularity contest and if the fans vote for Patrick, so be it. So either the All Star event is a race of the Nascar elite drivers or it's a circus devised solely for entertainment purposes, but it can't be both at the same time.

However, I'm not convinced that tweaking a rule or "oversight" in the final hours just to help get her in is "good for the sport." IMO, Nascar is betting the farm on her car being raceable after the show down.

It's an exhibition race , it definitely IS for entertainment purposes . Nascar went out of it's way to get Junior in ,as well they should , and to get Danica in , as well they should . By the way , she ran top ten in practice . So maybe she won't need any help.
 
Andy doesn't decide anything for anyone except himself - same as the rest of us.

As for the fan vote, it's a popularity contest and if the fans vote for Patrick, so be it. So either the All Star event is a race of the Nascar elite drivers or it's a circus devised solely for entertainment purposes, but it can't be both at the same time.

However, I'm not convinced that tweaking a rule or "oversight" in the final hours just to help get her in is "good for the sport." IMO, Nascar is betting the farm on her car being raceable after the show down.

If she does wad it up in the showdown she could race the back up in the all star race. Just like when they dropped the green in the wet and everyone wrecked in turn 1... I would laugh my ass off it smoke lost two green racecars in the 'all-star' race.
 
And why would anyone laugh their ass off over a Nascar driver crashing . Are you nuts?


In some situations, crashes can be comical. I didn't wish death on her, calm down.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I just don't understand why people hang off her nuts and why you're on the bandwagon.
 
In some situations, crashes can be comical. I didn't wish death on her, calm down.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I just don't understand why people hang off her nuts and why you're on the bandwagon.

Don't even bother. If you don't think Danica's the greatest driver in NASCAR, you're a sexist and a bigot who hates all women. :rolleyes:
 
In some situations, crashes can be comical. I didn't wish death on her, calm down.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I just don't understand why people hang off her nuts and why you're on the bandwagon.

#1 it is a popularity contest and she is arguably one of Nascar's most popular drivers . #2 If by fan vote , she is put into the race , why shouldn't she be there? #3 She's not a top twenty driver , she shouldn't be , she's a damn rookie. #4 There is no possible way that we would be having this discussion if she wasn't female. #5 Wishing a Nascar driver harm just doesn't sit well with me.
 
#4 There is no possible way that we would be having this discussion if she wasn't female.

Bullpucky. If NASCAR changed the rules to essentially guarantee Kasey Kahne or Dale Jr made it in to a race, there'd be even more people crying about it. And Danica wouldn't have a ride at all if she wasn't a woman. She was a decent (at best) IndyCar driver who's not that good in stock cars.
 
#1 it is a popularity contest and she is arguably one of Nascar's most popular drivers . #2 If by fan vote , she is put into the race , why shouldn't she be there? #3 She's not a top twenty driver , she shouldn't be , she's a damn rookie. #4 There is no possible way that we would be having this discussion if she wasn't female. #5 Wishing a Nascar driver harm just doesn't sit well with me.

1, 2, and 3, exactly what I'm saying. People need to stop hangin off her nuts.

4, Correct if she wasn't an attractive female she would have never made it to the upper tier of professional motorsports.
She's been a joke for awhile.

5, smoke tried to make a buck by signing her, I love watching him spend money on her development. Again, I never wished harm on her.
 
Why is all this discussion about her? Ok she is a women trying to break into the old boys club. Ok I get it. But she is still a rookie why all this discussion on her? Other rookies are doing just as bad as she is. Lets give her some time to get use to this car, new tracks for her etc . Let see where she is in two years when she has had a chance to show what she can do.not all drivers are Dale sr or jimmy johnson.
 
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