Bad Timing For Some Drivers

FenderBumper said:
OK, so now you know I said $3 million, not $4 million? You also clicked the link, added the $'s and realize I'm right about how much a S&P can make for 36 races?

So, why don't you tell me something? How much does it cost to qualify one car at lets say, Martinsville?

Time to put up or shut up.
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Whoa there big boy, FBRacing wants to qualify a car LOL. First of all you need a shop to store and work on this mystical racecar. No Harry Hodges chicken barn aint gonna work!
Average price to rent in Charlotte Industrial Park $40 per sq ft ( crappy part ) your going small time so sqeeze everything into 5,000 sq ft ( thats damn cramped ) Pony up $200,000 a month for your 12 month lease.....$2,400,000.00 hand that over and then we'll try and figure out How your going to get everything else your going to need.......PS you only have 600,000.00 left in your "Budget"
 
FlFlash said:
Whoa there big boy, FBRacing wants to qualify a car LOL. First of all you need a shop to store and work on this mystical racecar. No Harry Hodges chicken barn aint gonna work!
Average price to rent in Charlotte Industrial Park $40 per sq ft ( crappy part ) your going small time so sqeeze everything into 5,000 sq ft ( thats damn cramped ) Pony up $200,000 a month for your 12 month lease.....$2,400,000.00 hand that over and then we'll try and figure out How your going to get everything else your going to need.......PS you only have 600,000.00 left in your "Budget"
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So you're sain that if the fender gives $500.00 to the Walmart for a tv set , the president doesn't get to keep the whole $500.00 as profit?
 
Off-season in full effect! So you two are arguing about something none of us can change, and something that really doesn't matter to either of you.

Let's all come together and say... S&Ps suck. S&Ps are a reality right now. Hopefully in the future we won't see any S&Ps (not holding my breath).

Come on Daytona!!!
 
KingGlamis said:
Off-season in full effect! So you two are arguing about something none of us can change, and something that really doesn't matter to either of you.

Let's all come together and say... S&Ps suck. S&Ps are a reality right now. Hopefully in the future we won't see any S&Ps (not holding my breath).

Come on Daytona!!!
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Not argueing at all, FB asked for an edumacation in the busyness of race car ownership and operation :D
 
KingGlamis said:
Off-season in full effect! So you two are arguing about something none of us can change, and something that really doesn't matter to either of you.
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You say it doesn't matter and I hear that . But say start and parks are defined as cars that don't finish at least 80 laps .And say JimmyJohnson gets taken out early in the Daytona 500 . What do we do with old five time ?
What is your definition of a start and park ?
 
FlFlash said:
Not argueing at all, FB asked for an edumacation in the busyness of race car ownership and operation :D
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I'm sorry, I meant a GOOD education. Your numbers are insane and your S&P business model is stupid. $2,400,000 a year rent for a garage? Are you crazy?

OK, now I know that you don't know the first thing about this, so you can stop telling me how little you think I know.

http://www.loopnet.com/North-Carolina/Charlotte-Commercial-Real-Estate/

$40 a square foot my ass. ROFL!
 
ted@economy said:
You say it doesn't matter and I hear that . But say start and parks are defined as cars that don't finish at least 80 laps .And say JimmyJohnson gets taken out early in the Daytona 500 . What do we do with old five time ?
What is your definition of a start and park ?
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I know you don't consider a team that has a mechanical failure 50 laps into 90% of their races a start and park, and you and FLflash think there are only 3 S&P's per race.

I guess a team needs to paint their car "start and park" for you to consider it a S&P.

I tried to educate you, but you refuse to read the material I linked to.
 
KingGlamis said:
Off-season in full effect! So you two are arguing about something none of us can change, and something that really doesn't matter to either of you.

Let's all come together and say... S&Ps suck. S&Ps are a reality right now. Hopefully in the future we won't see any S&Ps (not holding my breath).

Come on Daytona!!!
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Why not talk about it to pass some time? IMO, nascar should let go of the 43 car field if it's just the gimmick the 5 or 6 S&P's turn it into. Keep the cash with the teams that TRY to race. There's a dozen simple ways to end S&P, if nascar wanted to.
 
KingGlamis said:
Off-season in full effect! So you two are arguing about something none of us can change, and something that really doesn't matter to either of you.

Let's all come together and say... S&Ps suck. S&Ps are a reality right now. Hopefully in the future we won't see any S&Ps (not holding my breath).

Come on Daytona!!!
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Start and Parks are nothing more than a business. Just like the bigger Cup teams, but with a lot more to lose.[Like their only car].
And how do you know what matters to people, do you have a crystal ball you are gazing into,or did you just want to stir up some chit?
 
I don't know about enough people for start and park but we sure do have enough here for a pissing contest. :D
 
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