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my opinion: intentionally wrecking other racers on track needs to be stopped. "boy's have at it" is a great marketing tool. but this is about to get someone hurt. quite possibly kyle.

he's tearing up equipment at a higher rate than rookies despite the obvious driving skills he possesses.

my hate level has risen greatly with his takeouts during racing. and nascar's handling of these issues infuriates me even more.

how many "incidents" has the "new and improved" kyle been involved in this year? can you name them all?

i'm offering an apology from me to all kyle fans on this board. cause i'm about to turn into a dick (ok. maybe just a bigger dick) on kyle busch topics.
 
Again, how can NASCAR punish Kyle for spinning someone when last year they did nothing when Carl Edwards...

1) Intentionally turns Brad in front of the field during the NW race at Daytona, wrecking 11 cars and putting Dale Jr on his roof.

2) Carl comes out 100 laps down and first tries to turn Brad into the outside wall at 190 mph, then intentionally turns him BACKWARDS at 190 mph, nearly killing him [roof collapsed and Brad was saved by the seat].

3) Repeatedly smashes Kurt Busch into the wall after the 2nd Daytona date, knocking his front wheel assembly off.

4) Sets himself up in the highline at Gateway so he can once again intentionally turn Brad into the outside wall at the start/finish line with the entire field spread out and full throttle with nowhere to go. Then yells "That was AWESOME" over his radio after watching a dozen cars crash violently, with one driver taking a trip to the hospital.

There is no line. NASCAR will find a way to protect Kyle, like they did Carl, from the other competitors because they have so much invested in him.
 
OK...

Kyle has 15 combined wins this year in the top three tiers. He sucks and he is a horrible person.

Who cares. The boy can drive the crap out of a car.
 
Smoke14 said:
OK...

Kyle has 15 combined wins this year in the top three tiers. He sucks and he is a horrible person.

Who cares. The boy can drive the crap out of a car.
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WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!
 
FenderBumper said:
Again, how can NASCAR punish Kyle for spinning someone when last year they did nothing when Carl Edwards...
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i don't want to hear any carl edwards $hit either. that incident should have resulted in a long, long, long suspension. that was quite possibly the worst incident i've ever seen at a racetrack of any type.

NASCAR played the see, hear, speak no evil, all because of sponsor and team owner money.

"driver safety is our number one priority."

i'm calling bull. let them fight in the pits to solve their issues before this on track stuff gets someone killed.
 
^ No sir, letting Michael Waltrip call races has been the most hyenas thing they ever did.
 
I don't feel Kyle should be punished, but nobody's hand's should be tied either. Kyle should be warned to stay away from Sadler in NW though, the same way Harvick was told.
 
We live in a day and age where people(even the fans) think wrecking someone is okay. They seem to forget wrecking someone not only puts the guy getting wrecked life at risk but also could take out people who has nothing to do with the two drivers going at it. I think if you're mad at a driver you go talk to him not go and wreck him. I wonder what would come if someone payed a driver back and ended up killing them. Would he go to jail for murder? would Nascar even do anything to the driver?
 
klemmabyna said:
i don't want to hear any carl edwards $hit either. that incident should have resulted in a long, long, long suspension. that was quite possibly the worst incident i've ever seen at a racetrack of any type.

NASCAR played the see, hear, speak no evil, all because of sponsor and team owner money.

"driver safety is our number one priority."

i'm calling bull. let them fight in the pits to solve their issues before this on track stuff gets someone killed.
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I agree. I've never seen Kyle wreck someone the way Carl does time and time again. The worst i've ever seen him intentionally wreck someone was Reutimann last year.
 
Blaze88 said:
We live in a day and age where people(even the fans) think wrecking someone is okay. They seem to forget wrecking someone not only puts the guy getting wrecked life at risk but also could take out people who has nothing to do with the two drivers going at it. I think if you're mad at a driver you go talk to him not go and wreck him. I wonder what would come if someone payed a driver back and ended up killing them. Would he go to jail for murder? would Nascar even do anything to the driver?
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Is there a difference between spinning someone and wrecking them? Kyle didn't "wreck" Sadler, he spun him and Sadler went on to finish the race.

My problem is with his reason for doing it. Sadler didn't give Kyle what he wanted, so Kyle spun him. that's something that goes against hard racing.
 
FenderBumper said:
Is there a difference between spinning someone and wrecking them? Kyle didn't "wreck" Sadler, he spun him and Sadler went on to finish the race.

My problem is with his reason for doing it. Sadler didn't give Kyle what he wanted, so Kyle spun him. that's something that goes against hard racing.
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Its only a matter of time before something is to happen anyway. I just don't like when people use a car as pay back honestly. I rather them settle it outside the car.
 
All of this coulda, woulda, shoulda, back & forth stuff on this forum is not going to result in one bit of change at the racing surface.
 
Here's some more truth...
Like him or not he's arguably the best driver out there right now.
The only person with more Cup wins than Kyle since 2008 is Jimmie Johnson (only by 4).
He has more Nationwide wins than anyone else.
He has more Truck Series wins than anyone else since 2008.
He broken more NASCAR records than any one single driver since 2008.
He's only 26 and far from done.
:D
 
BobbyFord said:
Here's some more truth...
Like him or not he's arguably the best driver out there right now.
The only person with more Cup wins than Kyle since 2008 is Jimmie Johnson (only by 4).
He has more Nationwide wins than anyone else.
He has more Truck Series wins than anyone else since 2008.
He broken more NASCAR records than any one single driver since 2008.
He's only 26 and far from done.
:D
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This is all true.

he's still an ass :cool:

Only problem is Johnson is better I mean 5 championships don't lie
 
BobbyFord said:
Here's some more truth...
Like him or not he's arguably the best driver out there right now.
The only person with more Cup wins than Kyle since 2008 is Jimmie Johnson (only by 4).
He has more Nationwide wins than anyone else.
He has more Truck Series wins than anyone else since 2008.
He broken more NASCAR records than any one single driver since 2008.
He's only 26 and far from done.
:D
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Kyle's claim to fame in Cup is that he's close to JJ in wins. All that win padding in the minors doesn't come close to JJ's 5 Champonships. If he's the best driver out there, why does he keep running into people?
 
FenderBumper said:
Kyle's claim to fame in Cup is that he's close to JJ in wins. All that win padding in the minors doesn't come close to JJ's 5 Champonships. If he's the best driver out there, why does he keep running into people?
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Well that's only close to Johnson's win's since 2008 which I don't get why only since 2008 counts :confused: I guess for when he moved to Gibbs? Anyway Kyle is 31 wins behind Johnson. Not so close when you look at what matters that being total wins right Bobby? Haha and yes I know I didn't quote Bobby here but was just saying that he's not close to JJ wins so I don't know what his claim to fame in cup is.
 
Blaze88 said:
This is all true.

he's still an ass :cool:

Only problem is Johnson is better I mean 5 championships don't lie
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Better?...clearly you dont understand what a racer really is....a true racer wants to win each and every race and isn't very concerned with "big picture" racing
Jimmy wants to win championships and will cruise to a good finish during the regular season and then turn it up during the chase.

Watching the 18 race is the most exciting thing in Nascar today...period!
 
Clutch said:
Better?...clearly you dont understand what a racer really is....a true racer wants to win each and every race and isn't very concerned with "big picture" racing
Jimmy wants to win championships and will cruise to a good finish during the regular season and then turn it up during the chase.

Watching the 18 race is the most exciting thing in Nascar today...period!
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Who's Jimmy? Ahh just messing with you.

Jimmie plays it smart why go out there and use up all you got before it truly matters? I'm sure without the chase Johnson would race just as hard and be able to win all year around he just plays it smart and saves what he has until the end which is the chase. Johnson has 54 wins to Kyle's 26. Tell me who's better.
 
Blaze88 said:
Who's Jimmy? Ahh just messing with you.

Jimmie plays it smart why go out there and use up all you got before it truly matters? I'm sure without the chase Johnson would race just as hard and be able to win all year around he just plays it smart and saves what he has until the end which is the chase. Johnson has 54 wins to Kyle's 26. Tell me who's better.
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Kyle ;)
 
Clutch said:
Ok...but its pretty hard to determine what makes a better driver,... I'm sure you would agree ;)
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I see it as wins and championships that make you the best that's just me thought. I'm not sure how others feel on that matter.

But you don't gotta cheer for someone just because they are the best I mean hell I cheer for Dale Jr and he's far from the best :cool:
 
Clutch said:
Ok...but its pretty hard to determine what makes a better driver,... I'm sure you would agree ;)
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Yes it is difficult, almost impossibile, for accuracy people should just check with me first.
 
klemmabyna said:
my opinion: intentionally wrecking other racers on track needs to be stopped. "boy's have at it" is a great marketing tool. but this is about to get someone hurt. quite possibly kyle.

he's tearing up equipment at a higher rate than rookies despite the obvious driving skills he possesses.

my hate level has risen greatly with his takeouts during racing. and nascar's handling of these issues infuriates me even more.

how many "incidents" has the "new and improved" kyle been involved in this year? can you name them all?

i'm offering an apology from me to all kyle fans on this board. cause i'm about to turn into a dick (ok. maybe just a bigger dick) on kyle busch topics.
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THERE YOU HAVE IT NOW BLUE
 
NASCAR has always been a show about racing...until the Brains little experiment. Thankfully, that's over and we're back to the show.
 
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