Absolutely, and the consequence for the next race was not nearly as dire as this one. Rules and laws are built for interpretation....unless you are talking criss/cross applesauce in kindergarten. No give there.
“If in NASCAR’s discretion”
So, it would be reasonable within this context to allow the race to continue until such time that cars begin to spin out? It has been suggested here that Busch and Truex have a throttle and a brake, and failed to used them correctly given the circumstances. I mean, you don't know it's too slick until it's too slick. All good. I'll just wait until Elliott sends it in, and doesn't make it out. Then, we will have the "reasonable" interpretation of the rules I am looking for. NASCAR made a mistake. It only becomes an issue when they refuse to make it right. While we are at it, it is insane for teams who were wronged to be forced to stare at their cars under red when the reason for the staring had nothing to do with driver or team.
Elliott had a loud pedal and a brake also. So did the rest of the field that didn't wreck. It's in these situations that those with half a brain think I am going to wait until the dummies wreck out because it is raining. That is what happened, the dummies wrecked.
BS. The leaders are the first to find the grip level, and the rest of the field reacts. See Watkins Glen 2012. Same bull****. You know better.
you have been listening to Burton too long.
My friends and I were talking about this at the race. It was really interesting that the only three cars that spun were JGR cars. Wonderful had anything to do with tire pressure.
True, the first ones in are in trouble first, but with that being said they themselves knew it was going to be very slick so there has to be some contributory negligence. NASCAR clearly made a mistake but I dont see them making a ruling to change the starting lineup fair or not.
I agree.
No on set ups or tire pressure. Yes on running order, and stepped in the **** the first.
Dear God. I just can't!
And Bubba and logano's spotters. But what the heck could they possibly know........
I thought the same thing. No way to prove it but it's one of those things that makes ya go hmm.
Drivers are screwed plenty of times, it’s sadly apart of the game. But no I do have a point, you just don’t want to hear it(or well read it). He will start in the back, and you’ll have to accept it.
So when the green is waving is it fair to assume that the track is race-able? I am asking that respectfully....and as a follow up....What is the role of the spotter and the drivers radioing in rain? Should they radio when the track is no longer race-able or are you reporting conditions anticipating an un-race-able condition.
Oh I want to hear it, but if you won't explain it, I will somehow get by. Whatever on the acceptance thing.....
not when the drivers and spotters are saying it is raining, you don't go flying into the corner like a bunch of lemmings off of a cliff
I already told you? LOL! I said the point is he’s good enough to race towards the front.
Thankfully, yes. Just made the parts stores busy Saturday morning.
Okay, I get your point now. NASCAR is saying that KFB is good enough, so let's go ahead and screw him. Got it.
Exactly...If they were so sure it was wet, why not point those behind you to pass and save your car. Showers can start immediately and there could have been a time lag between reporting from corner to control. What was it, lap 5 or something? And Kyle blames the pace car? They did multiple laps before with no problem. So I give it to anyone flying into a corner while complaining about rain....
Yeah, no way would it have been fair to determine that it was too dark by sending Amirola into the Turn 1 wall....Wait. This is comical. Amirola had a gas pedal and a brake pedal....Let 'em race until they can race no more....Am I right? How do you tell? When they wreck, you have waited too long. Seriously, this is amazing to read.
Let's do the same with darkness then. See Post #66. Comical.
What in the world are you talking about?
Use the same metric for finishing the race as was used to start it. If they ain't wrecking, we can still race.
Why do I have to see post 66? I wrote it?
#67....sorry.
Naw....not the NASCAR way...."As soon as somebody stuffs it in the wall, we will through the yellow/checkered, and the race is over." Thank you, and have a nice vacation y'all!
all I could think off was what a dumb ass
This is ridiculous. Not what I’m saying but you’re blind to it so it’s okay. Bye
Don’t see the comparison? Darkness comes gradually and we know when it will, to the minute almost. The rain can come at anytime during the 24 hour clock. And not even be visible from one side of the track to the other.
What do you want NASCAR to do?
