BREAKING: NASCAR requires all five lugnuts to be tightened

dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm sure that I look at this differently than most everyone but I can't wait to see the teams get burnt with this new rule. They went from what was an overblown subject to having a rule put in place to further penalizing them. People can chastise NASCAR, Brian France, the powers that be all they want, the teams are going to come out the losers in all of this.

Again, be careful what you ask for, you may just get it.
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Is there anything new about the rule? Isn't it basically a return to the lug nut rule pre-2015?
 
BobbyFord said:
UPDATE: NASCAR's updated rule states that if any missing lug nuts are found on a wheel before the race it must be corrected immediately and is listed as an unapproved adjustment, forcing the competitor to start at the rear. Any tire intended for race use without all five lug nuts glued to the wheel must be fixed immediately...." (Associated Press)(4-26-2016)
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I doubt anyone started a race on four nuts. There's no speed gained in NOT putting it on before the race starts. There may be some speed gained taking four off instead of five, but the first run is the one that will tell you the most about what needs adjusting; why introduce another variable at that stage?

As to gluing all five on, that doesn't guarantee they'll all be torqued down. Heck, even the old rule only required an effort to put all five on. The pit inspectors couldn't tell if they were tight.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
80. They'd only be required for the tire changers. :D

Any way you can kill the autosignature / advertisement? I don't know what Tapatalk is but that 'Sent from...' is getting old.
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Oh, well that is much better.

@DanicaFreak, I was also going to mention the sig thing. It can be turned off. I use that app as well for posting here.

@Charlie Spencer, I browse with the Sig thing disabled. I know it doesn't work in this case but it does for general browsing. They can get pretty annoying seeing them at the end of everyone's post. Especially big banner ones.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Just don't end up in the 'gutter' regardless of which path you choose today.
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Lol nice. The missus has already tried to find me a safe way home for tomorrow....I know its tuesday there but we're 1.15am weds here.
 
It seems to me the fixed something that wasn't a problem. I don't know how they can enforce it. They used to have officials in the pits during the pit stops to enforce the lug nut rule but with the new automated system that is gone. They can check the wheels before and after the race. I don't know if they'll have the Lug Nut police checking to see if every tire has 5 lug nuts glued to the wheel. How will they know if the tire changer hits all of the lugs? I've got a feeling that there will be a lot of loose lug nuts falling off the wheels as the cars leave the pits.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Drivers have been called down pit road to tighten lugnuts before during green flag conditions only for the officials to have messed up. Happened to Mark Martin once.
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Absolutely! I don't get how this has become a thing, it's always been a rule that all 5 nuts must be tight. Probably the most famous foul up on this rule is when Sr. was called back in for a lose nut, turned out it wasn't and nascar had to give him his track position back. So when and how did this become a thing? :idunno:
 
Heh, heh...... Errant lug cautions..... Black flags to check wheels...... A number of “fans” trusting NASCAR's actions are for safety......

Well played, NASCAR.
 
Bobw said:
Yet they allowed cars to run at speed on tracks with less than 5 lug nuts. That made things safer?
Proof the brain and others are too stupid to pour piss out of a boot.


''Our job is whenever there's a safety improvement to make or a policy to enhance things, we will just do that," NASCAR CEO Brian France said Monday during an interview with SiriusXM NASCAR Radio. "It's as simple as that. There's not a controversial thing. Our whole system is based on safe and competitive racing. If we can make an adjustment to make things safer, we just simply will."
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If it is such a safety issue then why were the teams doing it? Surely they care about their driver and the other drivers right? Surely they don't want to tear their cars or other cars right? Surely even if the tires were only secured if three the tire would just suddenly fly off? Of course surely it is simply the teams got greedy and threw their "concerns" about safety to the wind and just decided we would whine to Nascar to do what we aren't smart enough to do and just leave the five on there and get them tight.
 
Dwayne said:
Absolutely! I don't get how this has become a thing, it's always been a rule that all 5 nuts must be tight. Probably the most famous foul up on this rule is when Sr. was called back in for a lose nut, turned out it wasn't and nascar had to give him his track position back. So when and how did this become a thing? :idunno:
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Happened to Mark Martin once. Except he didn't get his track position back.
 
Rather then lugnuts, I think minimum camber is more serious. Racing is not sitting around waiting for tire flat cautions into the wall., like happened
at Dover ,PHoenix, and Bristol.
 
nascarcasm‏@nascarcasm
Did you know? Talladega Tire Guy will be fined this weekend because his tire is held on by only two nuts. #nascar

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