Bruton Smith: NASCAR may have to scrap the Chase
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dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
I like the way this man thinks..... sometimes.
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
Yup, and then sometimes he's just a nut
Bruton has always been a wealthy nut but sometimes I LOVE the way he thinks.
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John Galt
Guest
Re: “It started off as as good idea but maybe it’s time to look for something [else],” Smith said of the Chase
NOTE to Bruton: It [the playoff] was NEVER a good idea.
NOTE to Bruton: It [the playoff] was NEVER a good idea.
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
KK fan, not everone loves everything you do alright
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John Galt
Guest
Kid, DO NOT EVER change my post. I meant what I said and I find my words being changed without my permission a very personal insult. If you want to discuss my post, feel free to do so but what I stated are MY feelings and I don't like them being changed.
In fact, don't bother to reply. You have nothing to say which I care to read.
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#17D500winner
Guest
Maybe it's time to scrap the chase and Bruton Smith.
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Mopardh9
Guest
No actually you didn't fix it.
MRM
Team Owner
Bruton Smith should be running NASCAR.
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Davy Crockett
Guest
What do you suppose is keeping the drivers and Mr. Smith from going rogue and making their own series?
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Mopardh9
Guest
$$$ and France ....slamming any efforts
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Davy Crockett
Guest
France with all his money isn’t going to change the opinion of the public who thinks he has killed the Golden Goose. In the sense that Rock and Roll has “The Day The Music Died”, I think NASCAR has lost its magic for a large share of used-to-be loyal fans.
be9ak7ts16
Johali Lives
I fully concur with Mr. Crockett,MRM and mopar9. It's time for a CART/USAC/Indycar type fued to shake things up a bit.
Caused that worked so well for them.
be9ak7ts16
Johali Lives
Bruton's smart enough to do it the right way.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
That's an understatement.
Bruton is all about Bruton and Bruton is all about money. He's a billionaire because of his association with NASCAR. I can't see him ever going rogue. I think he'd have way more to lose than what he'd have to gain. He loves to throw out ideas but that sure as heck doesn't make him capable of running the sport. Heck, if it were up to him we'd probably have jumps on the backstretch, figure 8's, and half time shows with clowns.
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SlowNeasy
Guest
why hasn't bruton given ideas like these to brian? seems like they should at least be given consideration. <g>
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
But all those tricks and gatgets and jumps and fires and exposions were the brain chaild of Humpy Wheeler, not Bruton.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
I kinda doubt that Humpy Wheeler did all of that without Bruton's approval.
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
No, but they he was the brain child behind them. Humpy was the showman, Bruton the money.
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
Through the years that this old man has been a fan of auto racing, I've seen the popularity of various series and types of auto racing come and go. There was a time that the Indy 500 was much bigger than the Daytona 500 and open wheeled cars were the big deal in America. The 80's brought us ESPN and NASCAR to the forefront in American auto racing. Now, well over 25 years later, fans can see every NASCAR race on tv and with the schedule so long, it gets to be the same old same old for many fans. Smith as well as NASCAR knows that something different has to be done to keep fans interested. There are those old fans who hate changes and complain about any changes the sport comes up with, but many of those same fans are just plain getting tired of the sport. Just look at the many different threads here making suggestions about how long the races should be, how the cars should be, changing the points etc. NASCAR probably reached it's pinnacle around 2000. And then in 2003, a young man who had a mundane personality, won the crown with only one win. I remember well the cry that something had to be done to prevent such a thing from happening again. Then Nextel replaced RJ Reynolds as the sports sponsor and the "Chase" was to prevent anyone from cinching the title before the final race. Since then there have been numerous changes and this year is no different. Still, the sport is waning in the fan base.
Just remember, it was the same old, same old system that brought about the changes. Now everyone wants to go back to that system. The damage is done and I don't think will change. NASCAR will continue to fall in viewer-ship and will one day be about as popular as USAC became in the late 80's. What comes around, goes around and so it is with NASCAR.
Just remember, it was the same old, same old system that brought about the changes. Now everyone wants to go back to that system. The damage is done and I don't think will change. NASCAR will continue to fall in viewer-ship and will one day be about as popular as USAC became in the late 80's. What comes around, goes around and so it is with NASCAR.
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SST55
Guest
I have to agree, at one time the Indy 500 was a very big deal just like the superbowl is today.
Na$car should have kept pace with technology, like fuel injection, and not concern itself with making the cars "even" and a "level playing field" to appease Detroit.
The chase is killing the sport, IMHO of course. Wiping out Harvicks almost 300point lead was wrong.
I'm waiting for the brain to institute the "Past Champions Provisonal" for the chase.
Na$car should have kept pace with technology, like fuel injection, and not concern itself with making the cars "even" and a "level playing field" to appease Detroit.
The chase is killing the sport, IMHO of course. Wiping out Harvicks almost 300point lead was wrong.
I'm waiting for the brain to institute the "Past Champions Provisonal" for the chase.
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Mopardh9
Guest
I agree with most of the last two posts, but I don't agree that Nascar was trying to level the field for Detroit. I think if Detroit had its' way they'd much prefer the cars be different, look different, have distinct characteristics, IMO this is the root of the problem, and has been for some time. We have discussed this in various threads before, Nascar lost its' Identity when Earnhardt died and it has never regained it. All the vanilla this and vanilla that, PC rightousness, many have grown sick of it and moved on. I for one have watched Cup since I was 6 years old, that's 43 years for you guys that are counting.... I don't watch much of the race anymore, just the begining and the last 50 laps or so. I have seen a lot change, most of it not to the good. Will Cup survive, not sure, I know it is still making money, when it gets to the point when it is a break even thing, that is when things will get dicey.
. I don't watch much of the race anymore, just the begining and the last 50 laps or so. I have seen a lot change, most of it not to the good. Will Cup survive, not sure, I know it is still making money, when it gets to the point when it is a break even thing, that is when things will get dicey.
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SST55
Guest
The first thing was allowing a front wheel drive body, Lumina, in. Second was a even bigger concession to allow a 4 dr Taurus to be converted into a 2 dr.
Rules used to say to be eligible there had to be a minimum production run of 500. Anyone see a production rwd 2 dr Lumina or a 2 dr Taurus lately?
Then we got on the slipery slope of concessions to even out the field. Ford claimed Chevy's were more areo, Chevy said Ford had more hp, Chrysler said, opps Chrysler was gone, MY BAD!
Rules used to say to be eligible there had to be a minimum production run of 500. Anyone see a production rwd 2 dr Lumina or a 2 dr Taurus lately?
Then we got on the slipery slope of concessions to even out the field. Ford claimed Chevy's were more areo, Chevy said Ford had more hp, Chrysler said, opps Chrysler was gone, MY BAD!
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
Agree with all of this, but these changes were made when the sport was becoming ho hum. Now don't get me wrong, I could watch racing every weekend of the year, but it would get tiresome with the same old racing. I need a difference now and then and that's why I will attend a local race on Saturday night rather than stay home and watch it on TV, even Bristol. 38 weekends a year with the same cars will bore anyone after a while. NASCAR has big problems...satisfying those who pay the big bucks to participate and satisfying those who pay the big buck to watch. Sooner or later those two things are going to clash and that is what we have today.I have to agree, at one time the Indy 500 was a very big deal just like the superbowl is today.
Na$car should have kept pace with technology, like fuel injection, and not concern itself with making the cars "even" and a "level playing field" to appease Detroit.
The chase is killing the sport, IMHO of course. Wiping out Harvicks almost 300point lead was wrong.
I'm waiting for the brain to institute the "Past Champions Provisonal" for the chase.
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
Yeah seeing the same guys week after week gets old in the later parts of the season. That's why the person on here who wants year round racing should think about what a bad idea that is. If they can't keep peoples attention for the races they have now can you imagine how bad the ratings would be then?
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John Galt
Guest
You sure know how to explain a problem, don't you? That pretty much nailed it.
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SST55
Guest
New Smyrna races 11 months out of the year.
http://newsmyrnaspeedway.org/newbeta/?page_id=297
If you can I strongly urge any fan to go there for the World Series.
Right down the road a'piece is Volusia Speedway which runs the Dirtcar Nationals the same week. Tough decision but I'm practicing my redneck speak iffin the opportunity to go comes up. (I've been saving up my egg money)
http://www.dirtcarnationals.com/ind...tent&view=category&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=50
http://newsmyrnaspeedway.org/newbeta/?page_id=297
If you can I strongly urge any fan to go there for the World Series.
Right down the road a'piece is Volusia Speedway which runs the Dirtcar Nationals the same week. Tough decision but I'm practicing my redneck speak iffin the opportunity to go comes up. (I've been saving up my egg money)
http://www.dirtcarnationals.com/ind...tent&view=category&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=50
That person is thinking about it...nope he still wants year round racing.
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
Well what would you watch after year round racing puts Nascar out of business? I'm not saying your wrong so don't think that, just look at how people get tired after 36 races.....
I don't think it would put it out of business personally. I find people crying that the sport is dying are wrong, they see what they like dying.
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
If the sport isn't in trouble how do you explain tv ratigns down and tons of empty seats?
Everything Buck said a page or 2 ago. Plus people can't take change I don't know why that is but it is.
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Mopardh9
Guest
Yep i agree.
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Mopardh9
Guest
New Smyrna races 11 months out of the year.
http://newsmyrnaspeedway.org/newbeta/?page_id=297
If you can I strongly urge any fan to go there for the World Series.
Right down the road a'piece is Volusia Speedway which runs the Dirtcar Nationals the same week. Tough decision but I'm practicing my redneck speak iffin the opportunity to go comes up. (I've been saving up my egg money)
http://www.dirtcarnationals.com/ind...tent&view=category&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=50
My Boss at S&W went down for it last year, said it was awesome. He is a big Modified fan, but he said you can find all kinds of racing down there during Speedweeks. I always wanted to go for that and the Twin 150's then come home in time to watch the 500 on tv. Maybe someday.....sigh
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Mopardh9
Guest
I think in the "now" age people want instant gratification, without it they get easily bored, and that is why they are leaving Nascar.....bored viewers= empty seats.