Busch Clash RACE thread

Brad offering advice and being pissed about what went on today is humorous. Let’s ask William Byron about how relevant Brad’s opinion is on plate racing
 
2019PensekeFan said:
Meh, all drivers are hypocrites when it comes to this stuff so it pays to take none of what they say seriously.
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"Its just an exhibition race."

These guys are racers and still want to win the damn thing.

I've seen some clips and it looked like Brad had a good piece, I'd be mad too honestly.
 
I think Brad is just pissed off and frustrated about his luck at Daytona and it's boiling over. Everything that happened today is just a product of plate racing. Driver's will continue to throw blocks good and bad, cars will continue to get wrecked, nothing will change.
 
Okay yeah Joey threw a huge block.. but the wreck happened after that.. usually a big block causes a wreck when the guy gets hit in the rear.. but that's not what happened here.. Kyle went to go low again but didnt get clear of Joey first and hit his quarter panel. I think Brad needs to see the replay again.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Okay yeah Joey threw a huge block.. but the wreck happened after that.. usually a big block causes a wreck when the guy gets hit in the rear.. but that's not what happened here.. Kyle went to go low again but didnt get clear of Joey first and hit his quarter panel. I think Brad needs to see the replay again.
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After initial contact, Joey had it saved. Busch did not, over corrected and wrecked.
 
Late blocks and/or continuing to block is the Ugly because NASCAR won't officiate blocks, so drivers figure it out for themselves -- and this is what it looks like.

Joey dared Kyle Busch to wreck to him. Once Joey set the multiple block in motion, trying to go back and argue frame-by-frame is just asinine.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Okay yeah Joey threw a huge block.. but the wreck happened after that.. usually a big block causes a wreck when the guy gets hit in the rear.. but that's not what happened here.. Kyle went to go low again but didnt get clear of Joey first and hit his quarter panel. I think Brad needs to see the replay again.
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Slice, has joey said anything about the wreck?
 
Kurt has an idea.

Following a Busch Clash in which the drivers spent 90 percent of the race running single file before destroying all but six of the 18 starters during the final nine laps, 2003 Cup Series champion Kurt Busch has a format suggestion.

With many in the NASCAR community offering ideas on how to guard against something like that happening again and put a little more strategy into the race, past Busch weighed in.

"We're all racing an analytics race," Busch said of the strategy decisions. "It was all about fuel mileage and teamwork and the manufacturers working together to get to the end. We didn't get to the end. The format needs to change. We need to put cash on the line every 10 laps and see who grabs the most cash at the end.

"All of us are going to ride until we get to the end, and that's when we start crashing. We need to figure out how to make more winners in the race than just wrecked cars."

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/g30...must-read-racing-headlines-from-this-weekend/
 
Kurt wants to get the crashing over with the first few laps instead of having to race the whole thing..:p
 
I watched the race on DVR and didn't watch the whole post race broadcast. That said I saw Jones TRY to do a celebration burnout and somehow couldn't (did he on a second try?). Fast forward to this morning when YouTube serves up a video about the rumored use of traction control in the early 2000's. One scene is of a burnout gone wrong where the right rear kept stopping when it lost traction (ala TC).

So...am I outta my mind or?

P.S. Thank God racing is back!
 
Hawaii808 said:
I watched the race on DVR and didn't watch the whole post race broadcast. That said I saw Jones TRY to do a celebration burnout and somehow couldn't (did he on a second try?). Fast forward to this morning when YouTube serves up a video about the rumored use of traction control in the early 2000's. One scene is of a burnout gone wrong where the right rear kept stopping when it lost traction (ala TC).

So...am I outta my mind or?

P.S. Thank God racing is back!
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I know one thing, the 24 that Byron had didn't have it.
 
Kyle was probably shooting the bird at Joey about that time

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StandOnIt said:
Remember when Keselowski hammered Kenseth on pit road after the race and flew thru the pits, Kenseth caught him between the haulers and thumped him?
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Never seen anyone “thumped” with a headlock?
 
Kyle not complaining about the car the driving or the rules? I think he channeled it over to Keselowski

 
I laughed when Kyle wrecked. Joey did what he needed to do and I don't fault him one bit. Go for the win and do whatever you gotta do. Maybe Kyle hesitates in that same situation in the 500? Nah probably not. It just would have sucked to see him win and I'm glad he didn't hahaha!!!
 
Can someone explain why the Camaro can sit on the pole where HP is king but can’t show that strength in a pack?Doesn't make sense unless there is something I’m missing. Used to be you qualified good you raced good.
 
I can't tell you but I know last season all year long the cars that were blazing fast in qualifying and sitting on the pole were hardly ever JGR cars and them JGR boys won a lot of races.
 
I remember the 4 car back in the 90s had some weird headers that would sound different than the others of the time. It was fast with Marlin behind the wheel.
 
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machinistman3 said:
Can someone explain why the Camaro can sit on the pole where HP is king but can’t show that strength in a pack?Doesn't make sense unless there is something I’m missing. Used to be you qualified good you raced good.
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My guess is that it's an aero thing that only an aero engineer could properly explain.
 
“Bad blocks” is what Kez is mad about. Yes, he blocks as much as anyone but not when they have a huge run...at least that’s what his goal is. When he said he was tired of the blocking after wrecking out with Byron year before last or last year and said he was not tolerating it anymore he said specifically “bad blocks”. And Logano, as much as I like him, got pretty greedy with the blocks. I questioned if the last one was a block even but Logano hasn’t said anything different.
 
jaqua19 said:
You know what I miss? That high pitched whine of the plate racing from 1999-2007.
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I can whine about plate racing all you want. I'll toss in the high pitch for free. That era, this era, Daytona, Talladega, Loudon, Indy; where do you want me to start?

I know ...

The solution to blocking is to configure the track so the cars have to use the brakes and run unrestricted without endangering spectators. The pack will fall apart and the lead car will be able to separate from the it, same as at most other tracks.

How's that?
 
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