Busch Clash RACE thread

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by TexasRaceLady, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Maybe Kez needs to find another line of work, calling people dumb after he runs into a stationary pole @ 5mph?
  2. StandOnIt

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  3. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Lest we forget when Brad wrecked the field at Dega while 6 laps down and racing with the leaders.

    The buck doesnt stop at Joey.
  4. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Brad offering advice and being pissed about what went on today is humorous. Let’s ask William Byron about how relevant Brad’s opinion is on plate racing
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  5. 2019PensekeFan

    2019PensekeFan Team Owner

    Meh, all drivers are hypocrites when it comes to this stuff so it pays to take none of what they say seriously.
  6. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Remember when Keselowski hammered Kenseth on pit road after the race and flew thru the pits, Kenseth caught him between the haulers and thumped him?
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  7. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    "Its just an exhibition race."

    These guys are racers and still want to win the damn thing.

    I've seen some clips and it looked like Brad had a good piece, I'd be mad too honestly.
  8. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Vortex Shill

    I think Brad is just pissed off and frustrated about his luck at Daytona and it's boiling over. Everything that happened today is just a product of plate racing. Driver's will continue to throw blocks good and bad, cars will continue to get wrecked, nothing will change.
  9. SlicedBread22

    SlicedBread22 #TeamJL

    Okay yeah Joey threw a huge block.. but the wreck happened after that.. usually a big block causes a wreck when the guy gets hit in the rear.. but that's not what happened here.. Kyle went to go low again but didnt get clear of Joey first and hit his quarter panel. I think Brad needs to see the replay again.
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  10. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    After initial contact, Joey had it saved. Busch did not, over corrected and wrecked.
  11. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner

    Late blocks and/or continuing to block is the Ugly because NASCAR won't officiate blocks, so drivers figure it out for themselves -- and this is what it looks like.

    Joey dared Kyle Busch to wreck to him. Once Joey set the multiple block in motion, trying to go back and argue frame-by-frame is just asinine.
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  12. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    Slice, has joey said anything about the wreck?
  13. *WEAVER*

    *WEAVER* Team Owner

    Here is Keselowski's full race incar video. I started the video towards the wreck.

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  14. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  15. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Well I'll be damned:
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  16. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Vortex Shill

    This part
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  17. StandOnIt

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  18. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kurt has an idea.

    Following a Busch Clash in which the drivers spent 90 percent of the race running single file before destroying all but six of the 18 starters during the final nine laps, 2003 Cup Series champion Kurt Busch has a format suggestion.

    With many in the NASCAR community offering ideas on how to guard against something like that happening again and put a little more strategy into the race, past Busch weighed in.

    "We're all racing an analytics race," Busch said of the strategy decisions. "It was all about fuel mileage and teamwork and the manufacturers working together to get to the end. We didn't get to the end. The format needs to change. We need to put cash on the line every 10 laps and see who grabs the most cash at the end.

    "All of us are going to ride until we get to the end, and that's when we start crashing. We need to figure out how to make more winners in the race than just wrecked cars."

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  19. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kurt wants to get the crashing over with the first few laps instead of having to race the whole thing..:p
  20. Whiskyb

    Whiskyb Team Owner

    Is that not the justification for stages and points
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  21. Hawaii808

    Hawaii808 Team Owner

    I watched the race on DVR and didn't watch the whole post race broadcast. That said I saw Jones TRY to do a celebration burnout and somehow couldn't (did he on a second try?). Fast forward to this morning when YouTube serves up a video about the rumored use of traction control in the early 2000's. One scene is of a burnout gone wrong where the right rear kept stopping when it lost traction (ala TC).

    So...am I outta my mind or?

    P.S. Thank God racing is back!
  22. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I know one thing, the 24 that Byron had didn't have it.
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  23. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kyle was probably shooting the bird at Joey about that time

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  24. Ford 222

    Ford 222 Team Owner

    Denny is just sooo smart....I’m sure he had a good idea when he was doing it. Because he’s Denny....
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  25. Ford 222

    Ford 222 Team Owner

    Never seen anyone “thumped” with a headlock?
  26. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Yeah I guess I should have said Kenseth popped a top knot on his head.
  27. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kyle not complaining about the car the driving or the rules? I think he channeled it over to Keselowski

  28. 10-4

    10-4 Crew Chief

    I laughed when Kyle wrecked. Joey did what he needed to do and I don't fault him one bit. Go for the win and do whatever you gotta do. Maybe Kyle hesitates in that same situation in the 500? Nah probably not. It just would have sucked to see him win and I'm glad he didn't hahaha!!!
  29. machinistman3

    machinistman3 Team Owner

    Can someone explain why the Camaro can sit on the pole where HP is king but can’t show that strength in a pack?Doesn't make sense unless there is something I’m missing. Used to be you qualified good you raced good.
  30. 10-4

    10-4 Crew Chief

    I can't tell you but I know last season all year long the cars that were blazing fast in qualifying and sitting on the pole were hardly ever JGR cars and them JGR boys won a lot of races.
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  31. jaqua19

    jaqua19 Team Owner

    You know what I miss? That high pitched whine of the plate racing from 1999-2007.

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  32. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    The cars or the fans?
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  33. StandOnIt

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  34. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    couple of the gerbs with the Petty stirring things up. Can't say I disagree

  35. machinistman3

    machinistman3 Team Owner

    I remember the 4 car back in the 90s had some weird headers that would sound different than the others of the time. It was fast with Marlin behind the wheel.
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  36. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Last edited: Feb 11, 2020
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  37. Matthew2470

    Matthew2470 It's not that serious

    My guess is that it's an aero thing that only an aero engineer could properly explain.
  38. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    The "laser gun" cars. PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW
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  39. Ford 222

    Ford 222 Team Owner

    “Bad blocks” is what Kez is mad about. Yes, he blocks as much as anyone but not when they have a huge run...at least that’s what his goal is. When he said he was tired of the blocking after wrecking out with Byron year before last or last year and said he was not tolerating it anymore he said specifically “bad blocks”. And Logano, as much as I like him, got pretty greedy with the blocks. I questioned if the last one was a block even but Logano hasn’t said anything different.
  40. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    I can whine about plate racing all you want. I'll toss in the high pitch for free. That era, this era, Daytona, Talladega, Loudon, Indy; where do you want me to start?

    I know ...

    The solution to blocking is to configure the track so the cars have to use the brakes and run unrestricted without endangering spectators. The pack will fall apart and the lead car will be able to separate from the it, same as at most other tracks.

    How's that?
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2020

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