By appearance alone, NASCAR is in bigger trouble than other sports

clarkfn2284 said:
It isn't about understanding it, it is about is the race and that particular seating area worth $35? It's not just the $35, it's the parking, the food, the traffic, etc. It will add up. Me personally, I am a creature of convenience. I will place a premium on my comfort and enjoyment, so the cost doesn.t bother me, but other are not that way. They do not want to pay $100 for great seats and more comfort.
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That $35 will get you in the gate just like everyone else. Where you sit is up to you. Parking is free. Food fits nicely next to my beverages of choice in my cooler I carry in. No traffic for me. I let the impatient masses exit the property while I dine on freshly grilled meats of choice. Normally ribs or steak. I spend no money at the track. Well, except for that $2 Martinsville hot dog.
 
clarkfn2284 said:
It isn't about understanding it, it is about is the race and that particular seating area worth $35? It's not just the $35, it's the parking, the food, the traffic, etc. It will add up.
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Don't most NASCAR tracks let you bring **** in? And parking is free at most tracks.

That stuff adds up at any sporting event though. I used to get Orioles tickets for $5 but, when it was said and done, I spent close to $100. $10 parking, $7 for beer, $8 for food. And, since this was when the Orioles were a freaking last place dumpster fire, I usually had to be **** hammered drunk, walking around like Captain Jack Sparrow, to enjoy the game.
 
clarkfn2284 said:
In theory yes, because cards are safer to carry then cash. He already stated that he travels a lot. The cards are used to book and cover incidentals for hotel rooms. Also, a lot of cards will cover the insurancefor rental cars if you use the card to purchase the card. It is not uncommon for people to effectively use CC's to pay for purchases and reap the benefit.
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I was out of town for a week in mid April and I will be gone 10-11 days in a week's time but I credit card everything instead of bringing a lot of cash. If I need cash I can get it easily and I keep a running total of what I have spent on the card and just transfer the money from my checking account to my credit card when I get home.
 
Acs said:
Can we please merge this thread with the other one that just came out yesterday? There's little use in repeating the same stuff over and over and over and over.
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One giant "Nascar is dead" thread ? what an awesome idea ;)
 
kyle18fan said:
One giant "Nascar is dead" thread ? what an awesome idea ;)
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Yep, time for a "NASCAR is dead" sticky.

"NASCAR is dead" threads have surpassed Danica threads in absurdity.

Oh, while at it, can we be proactive and go ahead and make a "The Chase, er, Playoff sucks" sticky?

@TexasRaceLady
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Don't most NASCAR tracks let you bring sh!t in? And parking is free at most tracks.

That stuff adds up at any sporting event though. I used to get Orioles tickets for $5 but, when it was said and done, I spent close to $100. $10 parking, $7 for beer, $8 for food. And, since this was when the Orioles were a freaking last place dumpster fire, I usually had to be sh!t hammered drunk, walking around like Captain Jack Sparrow, to enjoy the game.
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These days many sporting events and concerts are out of reach for Joe Six Pack and it is just the way it is. Depending on where you live lake and other water access is restricted to those with means as are eateries and other non essential activities.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Yep, time for a "NASCAR is dead" sticky.

"NASCAR is dead" threads have surpassed Danica threads in absurdity.

Oh, while at it, can we be proactive and go ahead and make a "The Chase, er, Playoff sucks" sticky?

@TexasRaceLady
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I dunno if you are being facetious or not but in case you aren't who cares? I would totally get it if the forum was restricted to 10 threads at a time or something but seeing it isn't what difference does it make. If I see a thread title I am not interested in I don't participate and it works well.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Don't most NASCAR tracks let you bring sh!t in? And parking is free at most tracks.

That stuff adds up at any sporting event though. I used to get Orioles tickets for $5 but, when it was said and done, I spent close to $100. $10 parking, $7 for beer, $8 for food. And, since this was when the Orioles were a freaking last place dumpster fire, I usually had to be sh!t hammered drunk, walking around like Captain Jack Sparrow, to enjoy the game.
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So at Sonoma, you park for free, but you walk for a mile to get to the seats unless you get a parking pass, which does cost money. They do allow you to bring in your own food and drink, but personally, I'm not lugging a cooler around with me at the racetrack. This isn't a 1/2 mile short track we are talking about. Especially when the parking is grassy rolling hills and it's 90 degrees outside. Wheels or not, I'm not doing it.

dpkimmel2001 said:
That $35 will get you in the gate just like everyone else. Where you sit is up to you. Parking is free. Food fits nicely next to my beverages of choice in my cooler I carry in. No traffic for me. I let the impatient masses exit the property while I dine on freshly grilled meats of choice. Normally ribs or steak. I spend no money at the track. Well, except for that $2 Martinsville hot dog.
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Not every track is a GA seat choice. If I go cheap to Sonoma, I'm sitting in the first 10 rows, which makes the sight lines tough on an already impossible track. Now I know that is not the case everywhere. At a half mile it is less important. Again, as I stated above, not every track is conducive to lugging around a cooler. Not everyone has the luxury of sitting around and waiting for the stands to clear out. When we left Fontana I had a 6 hour drive home. I had been ion SOCAL for 4 days at that point and had work Monday. In that situation you just want to go. If I lived close it wouldn't be a problem and I know in that situation I could have better planned it, but I didn't so all of those things would be contributing factors. The answer is not just as simple as tickets are $35 because the question isn't just about the cost of the ticket.
 
ToyYoda said:
The term "financing" means to receive something now that will be paid for at a later date. 0% financing is still financing.

As for the payback, you're getting $400 in 2% paybacks. So that means your putting $20,000 in purchases every year on a credit card?
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Well if that is the correct definition of financing then what I do at NHMS is not financing....
Because the payment plan is set up so that the tickets are paid for before I attend the race.
So I am NOT receiving something now and paying for it later. I am paying first and receiving later.
So it's more like a forced savings and as I said before it is interest free.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I dunno if you are being facetious or not but in case you aren't who cares? I would totally get it if the forum was restricted to 10 threads at a time or something but seeing it isn't what difference does it make. If I see a thread title I am not interested in I don't participate and it works well.
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Exactly.

Some of us enjoy the NASCAR is dying threads because we are not wearing rose-colored glasses.

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Skoalbandit33 said:
NHL tickets are all over the map as teams like Toronto, Chicago, and Philly command top buck but when you talk about teams like Nashville, Columbus and Carolina they practically pay you to attend. I really like football and hockey live as there are so many benefits to seeing the entire playing surface. On the other hand there are some Nascar tracks like Indianapolis where you see very little.
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Winnipeg Jets home game going to cost ya $100, if they're playing a good team good luck finding tics

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FenderBumper said:
The DP thread was made to stem the flow of "Danica this and Danica that..." threads flooding the forum.
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The DP threads are a complete hoot as they are as predictable as the sun coming up although the misogyny angle has toned way down since Ted went AWOL.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
The DP threads are a complete hoot as they are as predictable as the sun coming up although the misogyny angle has toned way down since Ted went AWOL.
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Uh? looks around. He IS gone. All this time I thought he was being sarcastic.
 
Pat said:
Uh? looks around. He IS gone. All this time I thought he was being sarcastic.
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I can't remember the last time I saw Ted but TRL said she had reached out to him via email on a couple of occasions but she got no response. I miss having him around and it always concerns me when a contributing member just doesn't show up one day and then is gone.
 
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Skoalbandit33 said:
I can't remember the last time I saw Ted but TRL said she had reached out to him via email on a couple of occasions but she got no response. I miss having him around and it always concerns me when a contributing member just doesn't show up one day and then is gone.
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R Clarence said:
Hope Ted just became bored with us.

He was fulla crap but had a wit about him others sorely lack.
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January 29th was his last post.
 
ToyYoda said:
The term "financing" means to receive something now that will be paid for at a later date. 0% financing is still financing.

As for the payback, you're getting $400 in 2% paybacks. So that means your putting $20,000 in purchases every year on a credit card?
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Sounds about right.One year I paid 18,000. for a car. :)
 
"By appearance alone, NASCAR is in bigger trouble than other sports"

At least Skoalbandit33 gave NASCAR credit for being a "sport"...
 
Stacy said:
"By appearance alone, NASCAR is in bigger trouble than other sports"

At least Skoalbandit33 gave NASCAR credit for being a "sport"...
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NO WAY! I thought about changing the thread title but I wanted to use every thing exactly as it was when I did my cut and paste.

As far as I am concerned Nascar stopped being a sport several years ago as you can't be a sport if you hold a lottery for your championship, give multiple unearned laps back per race and change the rules on a weekly basis. I am not saying Nascar is bad just that it ain't a sport.
 
Michfan said:
I know some of you are hell-bent on insisting NASCAR is dying, but the racing is great so how bout y'all just head out and I'll shut the lights off when I'm done, ciao
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Some people may be using the word dying instead of something like shrinking or right sizing. It is like the misuse of the word hate as with some folks unless you agree with what they say you are a hater.

I think the racing has been pretty good this year which is great but it is all for naught if younger fans don't show interest.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Some people may be using the word dying instead of something like shrinking or right sizing. It is like the misuse of the word hate as with some folks unless you agree with what they say you are a hater.

I think the racing has been pretty good this year which is great but it is all for naught if younger fans don't show interest.
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Not really. The sport had a boom 20 or so years ago. It's bubble is now shrinking. Eventually contracts, sponsorships, budgets, etc will settle down to a place that makes more sense and racing will continue as always.
 
Michfan said:
Not really. The sport had a boom 20 or so years ago. It's bubble is now shrinking. Eventually contracts, sponsorships, budgets, etc will settle down to a place that makes more sense and racing will continue as always.
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Actually the bubble has been shrinking for 10 years or so but we are now only beginning to see some of the ramifications such as smaller car counts, lack of sponsorships and a title sponsorship that was 75 million and is now 20 million. I believe that Nascar will always be around in one form or anther but over the course of time will look more like open wheel racing in terms of support and popularity.
 
I can only think of 2 companies of where their customer base have substantially shrunk and CEO has remained in place.That would be Nascar and Sears.I know I would be more confident with a change at the top.Our CEO has a saying on his wall,"to be successful,you have to have your heart in your business and your business in your heart".
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Actually the bubble has been shrinking for 10 years or so but we are now only beginning to see some of the ramifications such as smaller car counts, lack of sponsorships and a title sponsorship that was 75 million and is now 20 million. I believe that Nascar will always be around in one form or anther but over the course of time will look more like open wheel racing in terms of support and popularity.
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As long as the racing is good, who cares? I've never liked NASCAR because was popular.
 
darlingtonfan said:
I can only think of 2 companies of where their customer base have substantially shrunk and CEO has remained in place.That would be Nascar and Sears.

I know I would be more confident with a change at the top.Our CEO has a saying on his wall,"to be successful,you have to have your heart in your business, your business in your heart and your head up your a s s."
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And if you've been following it, you know Sears is screwed-up too.
 
Michfan said:
As long as the racing is good, who cares? I've never liked NASCAR because was popular.
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From a personal standpoint Nascar could live on in perpetuity or the last race could be today and it would be all the same to me. However anytime the health of a company suffers the product and presentation normally suffer so the more fans the better.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
If its so decent, more people would be buying them. Reality is the bulk of NASCAR fans are on the lower end of middle class and live paycheck to paycheck. Cant afford multiple tickets a season anymore, much less just 1 now with the way hotels nearby jack up prices. The biggest obstacles are pricing.


Oh geez. You must be a "0% interest is free money" thinker.

No thank you. You know what else is 0% interest? Buying outright. Race tickets can be costly but its not an investment worth going into debt for :confused:
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We use our card for just about everything since we get cash back for using it, even though we pay it off immediately. Just sayin'
 
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