California Speedway Demo / Rebuild

Formerjackman said:
So NASCAR creates a problem where it did not exist, and then blames the problem for their lack of action? God they must think we are the dumbest people on earth. Hey Phelps you moron, you don't have the room to build anything bigger than a short track (which is fine with me) because YOUR PEOPLE SOLD THE PROPERTY! That's like saying you are homeless because you burned your own house down, and then blaming the fire department for you being homeless. And shame on Crandall for not have the.... well whatever, to point out that very fact. Any issue with racing in Fontana is wholly a creation of NASCAR and the France family and them alone. It's one of those things where they are either evil or stupid, take your pick.
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This. All day long. All day. Thank you for this post.
 
I've seen the comments about how it doesn't look good with all those warehouses around. Nashville has quite a few warehouses behind it. Those aren't hurting it.
 
StandOnIt said:
Update is not good.

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That stinks. He has a good point that I touched on before. If I was a resident of SoCal, I’d be pissed that I was kind of led to believe the short track was going to happen. The non consistent messaging from NASCAR was murky at best and used car sales man at the worst. If they had just been transparent about the land being worth so much money, that another option besides going back has to be considered, I’d be more receptive to the shiny new street course that is about to be unveiled in San Diego. But instead, this is the 3rd failure in Southern California….that stinks for the fans there.
 
Once again, do you want to be a sanctioning body/race track owner, or do you want to be a real estate developer? I don't they even know at this point.
 
pjmolo said:
Along with numerous accommodations and tourist attractions within walking distance of the track site, those things are what make the street race an entirely different experience from a Chicagoland race.

The street race is much more likely to attract folks of all shapes, sizes and interests.
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They are so fortunate that they are far enough away not to have to compete with the Fort Worth Texas Skyline.
 
kkfan91 said:
Heck build a big enough warehouse and you can race inside it.
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They could at least open one up to use like the Monaco tunnel. The Gerbils would never stop talking about it.
 
pjmolo said:
Along with numerous accommodations and tourist attractions within walking distance of the track site, those things are what make the street race an entirely different experience from a Chicagoland race.

The street race is much more likely to attract folks of all shapes, sizes and interests.
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A multi year contract with San Diego or any decent sized city in California would be ideal. The speedway is smack in the middle of a heavy industrial area and it is only going to get more so in the future.
 
StandOnIt said:
How many semi trucks can they ramp contests. There will be more semis than people at that place.
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They could actually build a track made up of a series of glass (green house) containers. No More Rain Delays.
 
I counted over 90 semi loading docks on just one side of the big building easily 90 spots on the other side. That isn't counting the smaller warehouse on the right. I think they need to race Semi trucks. There will be plenty to choose from. Those are tight spots to get a 53 footer into. They took up all of the precious room with none to spare. But for California those are big. I have had to dock in some outrageously tight nightmare areas in the L.A. area.
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StandOnIt said:
A multi year contract with San Diego or any decent sized city in California would be ideal. The speedway is smack in the middle of a heavy industrial area and it is only going to get more so in the future.
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Being near residential areas hasn't worked out very well for California racetracks, I would think being in a commercial district would be a plus. Most of those businesses probably aren't even open on the weekend, so there is less traffic conflict. Plus, it already existed, which solves a LOT of issues. If they want to sell the property, fine, but at least be a MAN about it and just say it, instead of the current dog and pony show. If you want respect, you have to GIVE some.
 
Formerjackman said:
Being near residential areas hasn't worked out very well for California racetracks, I would think being in a commercial district would be a plus. Most of those businesses probably aren't even open on the weekend, so there is less traffic conflict. Plus, it already existed, which solves a LOT of issues. If they want to sell the property, fine, but at least be a MAN about it and just say it, instead of the current dog and pony show. If you want respect, you have to GIVE some.
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Not so at all. Shipping goes on 24/7. Those warehouses are built for dry freight not refer and freight will be coming in from all over the country all times of the day and night.
 
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