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DJ Rossi
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LOL!!! don't blame zippy...
Carl To JGR?
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Kyle is really the only youngster to make good in Cup since...Jeff Gordon.
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Mopardh9
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Yep very true.
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*cough* Umm, Johnson started his Cup run in 2002, when he was 26, and has won five in a row.
Just thought I'd point that out.
HoneyBadger
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Logano has had a lot of money and the best equipment behind him the whole way.
Anyone could win in some of the cars he was in -- and that was proven in ARCA.
I was talking about early 20's
HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
Kyle Busch and Joey Logano both have similar stories behind them... Kyle would be nowhere if it wasn't for his older brother.
Difference is, Kyle has a lot more talent than Joey has.
True story. Kyle has a lot more talent than Kurt does, too.
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Mopardh9
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And a lot more talent than his older brother and just about every other driver in all 3 series today. Logano has plenty of talent, he was rushed a little too quickly because Tonys' ride was open.
VaDirt
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I wouldn't compare 26 to 20. 20s just too young.
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#17D500winner
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I believe Kyle Busch was in cup at the ripe old age of 20.
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Gordon_Fan24
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I would be surprised by this after all of these years of hearing Carl talk like he owns stock in Ford after every race.."These Fords are the best"..."Ford makes the best cars on the road"..."These Ford Fusions can't be beat"...you get the idea! lol
I know all drivers talk about their sponsors, but man, Carl takes it with Ford to the next level...
I know all drivers talk about their sponsors, but man, Carl takes it with Ford to the next level...
racer8
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Not to mention at least twice last weekend I heard him say " the 40 mile per gallon Fusion" in only one interview.
UPDATE 3: Speculation about #99-Carl Edwards raged through in the NASCAR garage throughout the weekend, with unconfirmed reports that the stock car racing star - now back atop the Sprint Cup standings after Sunday's New Hampshire 301 - could definitely be heading to the Joe Gibbs Toyota operation next season and leaving Jack Roush's Ford operation. No one would say much at all on the record about the Edwards situation. However, it appears something is changing, or has changed. Just what, if anything, isn't clear. And yet still there was little more than more silence Sunday. No one involved was leaping into deny or confirm anything. Part of the speculation involves sponsorship possibilities. Edwards is considered one of the sport's most attractive drivers from a sponsor's viewpoint. And it is believed that part of the driving factor in the Edwards-Gibbs possibility could be Home Depot, the home improvement giant which has 'lost' five straight NASCAR championships to arch-rival Lowe's and #48-Jimmie Johnson.(MikeMulhern.net)(7-18-2011)
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Add to that the way Kurt was treated by Roush when he was a lame duck, and it's easy to see why Carl would want to wait until the end of the year to tell Jack. I expect Jack to push the issue very soon, and try to steal Bayne away from Wood bro's if he can't get Carl to sign. If Carl is a sponsors dream, Bayne is a sponsors wet dream.
VaDirt
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I dunno about that, he still doesn't have a sponsor in the NNS.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
So do a lot of NNS drivers. Carl had existing contracts for most races, but even he had trouble filling the schedule.
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#17D500winner
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I know is easy to cast Roush as the master of evil but Kurt Busch brought most of his toubles on himself through his attitude and behaviour.
Edwards has never once, that I know of, mentioned any discontentment with his boss.
Mulhern? Well, he's been proven time and again to be a less then accurate "journalist" - no offense meant to you Bobby for posting the article.
Edwards has never once, that I know of, mentioned any discontentment with his boss.
Mulhern? Well, he's been proven time and again to be a less then accurate "journalist" - no offense meant to you Bobby for posting the article.
Ford all-in with Roush for Carl Edwards
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By David Newton
ESPN.com
INDIANAPOLIS -- Ford Racing has gone to what officials call unprecedented measures to help Roush Fenway Racing keep Carl Edwards from going to the Toyota team of Joe Gibbs Racing.
"We've helped out with an offer we have never done before for another driver,'' said Ford racing spokesman Kevin Kennedy before Saturday's qualifying for the Brickyard 400. "It was important enough for us that we were trying to make it unprecedented.''
Kennedy would not give specifics into what Ford has offered other than to say top executives in the organization have been closely involved with RFR in negotiations.
"If he's around, it's something that will help him in terms of continuing to promote Ford products,'' Kennedy said of Edwards, who has become the face of Ford Racing. "We've been in racing for 110 years and I don't think we've ever done this before.''
Steve Newmark, the president of RFR, acknowledged that Ford has gone above and beyond to help keep Edwards in the fold. Newmark added that the total package offered to this year's top free agent shows just how important officials believe he is to the future of the organization and manufacturer.
"I hope everybody understands Roush Fenway is very intent on signing Carl,'' Newmark said. "We understand he is trying to make a decision that is best for his future.''
Edwards declined on Friday to say whether he has made a decision amid speculation he is headed for JGR to drive the No. 20 currently occupied by Joey Logano with Home Depot and Aflac as his sponsors.
Newmark and Kennedy said Edwards has told them no decision has been made. Newmark added that no ultimatum or deadline for a decision will be made even though RFR wants it done sooner rather than later to prepare for next year.
"He's told all of us he wants to make it soon, because he realizes it's best for everybody involved,'' Newmark said.
Sources said Edwards could earn more than $40 million over three years. Newmark said money hasn't been a major factor in RFR's negotiations.
"Money does not come into any of the discussions,'' Newmark said. "You guys have been around Jack Roush enough to know his sole focus is on winning.''
JGR president J.D. Gibbs would not comment on the Edwards situation. But he did say JGR would look at expanding to four cars if the right driver and sponsor came along.
Newmark said regardless of what Edwards decides every effort will be made to help the No. 99 team win this year's Sprint Cup championship.
"That's going to be our focus,'' Newmark said of winning the title. "We owe it to our sponsors. Carl will still be under contract. Jack's focus at the end of the day is to win championships. Jack is agnostic about who he wins it with.''
Edwards argued the same point on Friday when told four-time champion Jeff Gordon from Hendrick Motorsports said the team is "done'' if Edwards announces he's leaving RFR.
"I feel like no matter what happens we have a great thing going," said Edwards, who has a seven-point lead over five-time defending champion Jimmie Johnson heading into Sunday. "Jack Roush and Ford and Aflac, that is our mission right now -- to win the championship.
"That is all of our goals. Whatever happens, happens. But I believe that is reasonable to believe that could happen no matter what."
Should Edwards leave, Newmark said the replacement likely would come from in house with developmental drivers Trevor Bayne or Ricky Stenhouse Jr. He said no driver outside the organization has been contacted.
Newmark also discounted a comment made by RFR driver Greg Biffle that Edwards needs to let the team know where he's going so the organization can decide "if we're gonna be three teams or four teams'' in 2012.
"Every year you evaluate,'' Newmark said. "Our goal and our intent and plan and expectation is to be four Cup cars. As we do our plans for 2012, that is how we're planning.''
Newmark added that he remained as he was in May "cautiously optimistic'' that Edwards will re-sign.
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By David Newton
ESPN.com
INDIANAPOLIS -- Ford Racing has gone to what officials call unprecedented measures to help Roush Fenway Racing keep Carl Edwards from going to the Toyota team of Joe Gibbs Racing.
"We've helped out with an offer we have never done before for another driver,'' said Ford racing spokesman Kevin Kennedy before Saturday's qualifying for the Brickyard 400. "It was important enough for us that we were trying to make it unprecedented.''
Kennedy would not give specifics into what Ford has offered other than to say top executives in the organization have been closely involved with RFR in negotiations.
"If he's around, it's something that will help him in terms of continuing to promote Ford products,'' Kennedy said of Edwards, who has become the face of Ford Racing. "We've been in racing for 110 years and I don't think we've ever done this before.''
Steve Newmark, the president of RFR, acknowledged that Ford has gone above and beyond to help keep Edwards in the fold. Newmark added that the total package offered to this year's top free agent shows just how important officials believe he is to the future of the organization and manufacturer.
"I hope everybody understands Roush Fenway is very intent on signing Carl,'' Newmark said. "We understand he is trying to make a decision that is best for his future.''
Edwards declined on Friday to say whether he has made a decision amid speculation he is headed for JGR to drive the No. 20 currently occupied by Joey Logano with Home Depot and Aflac as his sponsors.
Newmark and Kennedy said Edwards has told them no decision has been made. Newmark added that no ultimatum or deadline for a decision will be made even though RFR wants it done sooner rather than later to prepare for next year.
"He's told all of us he wants to make it soon, because he realizes it's best for everybody involved,'' Newmark said.
Sources said Edwards could earn more than $40 million over three years. Newmark said money hasn't been a major factor in RFR's negotiations.
"Money does not come into any of the discussions,'' Newmark said. "You guys have been around Jack Roush enough to know his sole focus is on winning.''
JGR president J.D. Gibbs would not comment on the Edwards situation. But he did say JGR would look at expanding to four cars if the right driver and sponsor came along.
Newmark said regardless of what Edwards decides every effort will be made to help the No. 99 team win this year's Sprint Cup championship.
"That's going to be our focus,'' Newmark said of winning the title. "We owe it to our sponsors. Carl will still be under contract. Jack's focus at the end of the day is to win championships. Jack is agnostic about who he wins it with.''
Edwards argued the same point on Friday when told four-time champion Jeff Gordon from Hendrick Motorsports said the team is "done'' if Edwards announces he's leaving RFR.
"I feel like no matter what happens we have a great thing going," said Edwards, who has a seven-point lead over five-time defending champion Jimmie Johnson heading into Sunday. "Jack Roush and Ford and Aflac, that is our mission right now -- to win the championship.
"That is all of our goals. Whatever happens, happens. But I believe that is reasonable to believe that could happen no matter what."
Should Edwards leave, Newmark said the replacement likely would come from in house with developmental drivers Trevor Bayne or Ricky Stenhouse Jr. He said no driver outside the organization has been contacted.
Newmark also discounted a comment made by RFR driver Greg Biffle that Edwards needs to let the team know where he's going so the organization can decide "if we're gonna be three teams or four teams'' in 2012.
"Every year you evaluate,'' Newmark said. "Our goal and our intent and plan and expectation is to be four Cup cars. As we do our plans for 2012, that is how we're planning.''
Newmark added that he remained as he was in May "cautiously optimistic'' that Edwards will re-sign.
